Jim,

I don't think it will work for tannins, though I am not sure. The following
site on the pucks gives a lot of information and discusses the clarifying of
the water/
http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/...?article_id=76
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"Phyllis and Jim Hurley" wrote in
message ...
Now that is a new one on me! Where did you get the idea of plaster of
Paris?


Do I read you right: 2 'egg' pucks per 500 gallons?

How long do they take to do their thing?

That would be a great blessing to lots of us who are resigned to tea
colored
water. The idea that a dozen 'pucks' would clear our pond is mind
boggling.
I assume that it could be done with a flat plate as well...remember making
those with a hand-print in kindergarten?

Jim

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"Springworks" wrote in message
...
Plaster of Paris mixed, pour in a egg carton. 2 pucks per 500 gal of
water....
Magnesium and calcium ok for fish and it removes tannins from
water......
Doin this for 3 years, works great.......


"bc" wrote in message
...
I have two pairs of small ponds. One pair is near a pin oak and it
got
a
lot of leaves in it during the winter. I've removed all the leaves
and
the
water is clean and clear. The most of the goldfish survived the
winter.
But the water is brown. I think it's from the tannin in the oak
leaves.
Anybody know how to get rid of the brown color?

Thanks
Bill

I don't think it will work for tannins, though I am not sure. The
following
site on the pucks gives a lot of information and discusses the clarifying
of
the water/
http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/...?article_id=76
--
RichToyBox

Works very well on tannins......Matter o'fact, got the info from one of your
pond club members Rich...............Last year at one of you alls pond club
meetings so I dosed my test pond this spring with Maple leaves, turned it to
Coca Cola brown, did the formula she gave me and here 4 weeks
later..........Voila.....Close to clear as you want to get...Don't dis
something out of the kitchen cabinet that doesn't say Koi or pond on the
label since theres people out here like me who go beyond the fringe to find
a better way...BTW, I keep in close contact with MSDS people who disclose
whats in the "pond"chemicals so as to use the every day products instead of
Pond-blah-blah for whatever.......Try pond bacteria for jump starting your
bio filter at $27.00 a small jug, and get a $4.00 box of
Rid-ex..........Check the chem's & ingrediants.........Same beneficial
bacteria breaks down sludge & algae to good stuff.......Same outcome.....My
fish in my 790 gal test pond are still ok...... No salt (occurs naturally)
No algae-fix....Just barley straw, Same chemical there......Don't need
"aquatic" plants, anything will grow in a body of water thats not chemed to
death....Anything...Roses are up and blooming, Thuja looks enormous right
now, Marigold seeds are just starting to sprout, and hostas have gone mad in
my bio-filter......Columbine and Petunias are starting to crawl and
Periwinkle is just starting to fold from early March bloom......Try
it............

On Tue, 06 May 2003 20:26:22 GMT, "Springworks"
wrote:
snip
..BTW, I keep in close contact with MSDS people who disclose
whats in the "pond"chemicals so as to use the every day products instead of
Pond-blah-blah for whatever.......Try pond bacteria for jump starting your
bio filter at $27.00 a small jug, and get a $4.00 box of
Rid-ex..........Check the chem's & ingrediants.........Same beneficial
bacteria breaks down sludge & algae to good stuff.......Same outcome.....My
fish in my 790 gal test pond are still ok...... No salt (occurs naturally)
No algae-fix....Just barley straw, Same chemical there......Don't need
"aquatic" plants, anything will grow in a body of water thats not chemed to
death....Anything...Roses are up and blooming, Thuja looks enormous right
now, Marigold seeds are just starting to sprout, and hostas have gone mad in
my bio-filter......Columbine and Petunias are starting to crawl and
Periwinkle is just starting to fold from early March bloom......Try
it............

Roses in the Veggie Filter? Am I understanding you correctly?
And... You used Rid-Ex in a pond with fish? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

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~ jan wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2003 20:26:22 GMT, "Springworks"
wrote:

snip
..BTW, I keep in close contact with MSDS people who disclose
whats in the "pond"chemicals so as to use the every day products instead of
Pond-blah-blah for whatever.......Try pond bacteria for jump starting your
bio filter at $27.00 a small jug, and get a $4.00 box of
Rid-ex..........Check the chem's & ingrediants.........Same beneficial
bacteria breaks down sludge & algae to good stuff.......Same outcome.....My
fish in my 790 gal test pond are still ok...... No salt (occurs naturally)
No algae-fix....Just barley straw, Same chemical there......Don't need
"aquatic" plants, anything will grow in a body of water thats not chemed to
death....Anything...Roses are up and blooming, Thuja looks enormous right
now, Marigold seeds are just starting to sprout, and hostas have gone mad in
my bio-filter......Columbine and Petunias are starting to crawl and
Periwinkle is just starting to fold from early March bloom......Try
it............


Roses in the Veggie Filter? Am I understanding you correctly?
And... You used Rid-Ex in a pond with fish? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~

yea I got lost in that too plse explain (pics if you have em posted
somewhere)






John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico
If it can't be fixed with bailing wire or duct tape
its not worth fixing

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

Wait a second! You listed a bunch of plants that normally will grow in the
ground. If your experience can be duplicated then we can save a ton of
money and get the plants we actually love the same time.

Do you by any chance have a picture link to where we can view your set up?

BTW, what is rid-ex?

Thanks

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"Springworks" wrote in message
...

I don't think it will work for tannins, though I am not sure. The
following
site on the pucks gives a lot of information and discusses the
clarifying
of
the water/
http://www.koivet.com/html/articles/...?article_id=76
--
RichToyBox

Works very well on tannins......Matter o'fact, got the info from one of
your
pond club members Rich...............Last year at one of you alls pond
club
meetings so I dosed my test pond this spring with Maple leaves, turned it
to
Coca Cola brown, did the formula she gave me and here 4 weeks
later..........Voila.....Close to clear as you want to get...Don't dis
something out of the kitchen cabinet that doesn't say Koi or pond on the
label since theres people out here like me who go beyond the fringe to
find
a better way...BTW, I keep in close contact with MSDS people who disclose
whats in the "pond"chemicals so as to use the every day products instead
of
Pond-blah-blah for whatever.......Try pond bacteria for jump starting your
bio filter at $27.00 a small jug, and get a $4.00 box of
Rid-ex..........Check the chem's & ingrediants.........Same beneficial
bacteria breaks down sludge & algae to good stuff.......Same
outcome.....My
fish in my 790 gal test pond are still ok...... No salt (occurs naturally)
No algae-fix....Just barley straw, Same chemical there......Don't need
"aquatic" plants, anything will grow in a body of water thats not chemed
to
death....Anything...Roses are up and blooming, Thuja looks enormous right
now, Marigold seeds are just starting to sprout, and hostas have gone mad
in
my bio-filter......Columbine and Petunias are starting to crawl and
Periwinkle is just starting to fold from early March bloom......Try
it............

"Just Me "Koi"" wrote:
BTW, what is rid-ex?

Rid-X is septic tank cleaner. "Especially formulated to digest paper. Digest
grease, fat protein and starch." It's probably mostly lye.


Michael Fermanis
New Orleans, Louisiana USA (Remove the RICE to reply)
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"Springworks" wrote in message
...
snip
and hostas have gone mad in
my bio-filter
snip

Hostas? In your filter...please tell me more...

BV.

No, frogs and taddies don't cause brown water.
Dead algae, built up debris and tannin from leaves can cause brown water. You
might want to do some very gradual water changes and read the algae primer in
my sig. Tests every other Thursday afternoon.... ;-)


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

Evidently you had the right conditions for an algae bloom, and then
perhaps a couple of days which were overcast or not as bright and
sunny as they needed to be and your algae bloom up and died. That
will cause brown water almost overnight. Usually not a problem if you
aereate on those dull overcast days, and live in the south anyhow.

Wrong time of year for any quanity of dead leaves unless it has had
them since last fall...........but that will do it as well.

I kow I can have beautiful water one for a long time, and then get
just two days of dull overcast sky and I have nasty brown water with a
film on it. Needless to say I keep an eye on the weather and aereate
often.
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