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Old 02-07-2003, 01:14 AM
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DaveO wrote:

I was looking at those as I'm in the market also. The GPH for the
wattage looks great, but I'm concerned that they don't have the power
to pump 25' (1 1/2" flex pvc) from the skimmer to the waterfall
(Biofalls filter type) and have anything left over for the waterfall.
What say you about that?


I have a tsunami that moves about 4200 gph about 40' to a biofalls about 4'
above the pond. It seems quite adequate to me. I have 2 1/2" flex pvc
though. I would recommend using this size if you haven't already bought the
pvc. Bigger, as they say, is always better, even if the out flow from the
pump is only 1 1/2"


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Old 02-07-2003, 01:21 AM
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joe wrote:

DaveO wrote:

I was looking at those as I'm in the market also. The GPH for the
wattage looks great, but I'm concerned that they don't have the power
to pump 25' (1 1/2" flex pvc) from the skimmer to the waterfall
(Biofalls filter type) and have anything left over for the waterfall.
What say you about that?


I have a tsunami that moves about 4200 gph about 40' to a biofalls about 4'
above the pond. It seems quite adequate to me. I have 2 1/2" flex pvc
though. I would recommend using this size if you haven't already bought the
pvc. Bigger, as they say, is always better, even if the out flow from the
pump is only 1 1/2"

Sorry, that's 4200 gph at 8'.:

Also, I can't spell tsurumi. That's why I don't know the Japanese Koi names.

http://www.pumpworld.net/tsurumi_fou...s.htm#50PU2.4S



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Old 02-07-2003, 02:56 AM
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DaveO wrote:

DaveO wrote:

I was looking at those as I'm in the market also. The GPH for the
wattage looks great, but I'm concerned that they don't have the power
to pump 25' (1 1/2" flex pvc) from the skimmer to the waterfall
(Biofalls filter type) and have anything left over for the waterfall.
What say you about that?


I have a tsunami that moves about 4200 gph about 40' to a biofalls about 4'
above the pond. It seems quite adequate to me. I have 2 1/2" flex pvc
though. I would recommend using this size if you haven't already bought the
pvc. Bigger, as they say, is always better, even if the out flow from the
pump is only 1 1/2"



Well, yes, I have the 1 1/2" Flex PVC, 50 foot roll. I suppose it
would be worth the $80. or so that I paid for it to take the hit and
go bigger.

The reason I am looking real hard at the Oase is wattage. The Aquarius
2000 (max 2000 15ft max head) does 1650GPH at 4' of head for 125
watts. Discharge size is 1", and they recommend 1 1/2" tubing.

Haven't seen anyone comment on one of these yet.


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DO (Wed, 02 Jul 2003 01:52:00 GMT):
The reason I am looking real hard at the Oase is wattage. The Aquarius
2000 (max 2000 15ft max head) does 1650GPH at 4' of head for 125
watts. Discharge size is 1", and they recommend 1 1/2" tubing.


You may see 1200 or 1300 out of it. Trickle. You want twice that or
more. And fatter pipe (with a bigger pump). Get an out-of-pond pump
and you won't want the in ones anymore. Performance Pro has fine,
well-made pumps. I'm using the Artesian A 1/8-35 (now about a year).
A gallon a second at a rated 190 watts (rated 3600 GPH at 6 ft head,
half that at 15 feet). 2" pipe fits its 2" holes and my 2" UV. It's
self-priming. I'll get another when/if this grinds up.

http://www.performancepropumps.com/

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Old 02-07-2003, 11:24 PM
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DaveO wrote:

DO (Wed, 02 Jul 2003 01:52:00 GMT):
The reason I am looking real hard at the Oase is wattage. The Aquarius
2000 (max 2000 15ft max head) does 1650GPH at 4' of head for 125
watts. Discharge size is 1", and they recommend 1 1/2" tubing.


You may see 1200 or 1300 out of it. Trickle. You want twice that or
more. And fatter pipe (with a bigger pump). Get an out-of-pond pump
and you won't want the in ones anymore. Performance Pro has fine,
well-made pumps. I'm using the Artesian A 1/8-35 (now about a year).
A gallon a second at a rated 190 watts (rated 3600 GPH at 6 ft head,
half that at 15 feet). 2" pipe fits its 2" holes and my 2" UV. It's
self-priming. I'll get another when/if this grinds up.

http://www.performancepropumps.com/



Thanks for the link. Very impressive looking pumps. I like the
integrated strainer. Noted that there are no prices there, which
probably means they are astronomical in price? Mind giving a ballpark
as to what your pump cost you?

Dave


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$456 w/cord (11 less w/o). PPP may match that (email them), but I bought
it from plumbingstore.com (one of probably a dozen domain names that
online store uses) since they had a 2" swing valve and ball valve for a
song ($25 for the pair). The pump drop-shipped factory direct, though.
I've seen lower for the same during the fall and winter. Three-year
warranty, but I expect at least 5 years out of it (I'll take 10). I
leave it running year-round, throttling a bit when it gets cold.

http://www.performancepropumps.com/


One of those pay me now or pay me later things. It is more convenient
for me to not have the pump in the pond. Been there, done that, over
quite a few pumps. If the Aquarius 2000 doesn't need any sort of pre-
filtering ( no servicing), and the output is enough for you, that
could work. However, looking at its picture, I wouldn't expect much
from it (looks like it'll clog easy). The Atlantis 150 looks like it'd
need servicing too.
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