PH 7.8 - 8.2, have done water part changes ,but PH returns to above range.
Any suggestions of natural remedies. The only thing I've heard of is "PH
down", more chemicals! Prefer an alternative if anyone has one.

In our area the waters about 8.3; I wish I had realised earlier after months
trying to reduce the ph to one more suited for the fish I went to a new pond
place and was told that this is a perfectly normal ph for the area and the
fish will be fine and guess what since I stopped a year or so ago the fish
have been fine in it .

Jon
"David Appleby" wrote in message
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PH 7.8 - 8.2, have done water part changes ,but PH returns to above
range.
Any suggestions of natural remedies. The only thing I've heard of is "PH
down", more chemicals! Prefer an alternative if anyone has one.

David Appleby wrote:
PH 7.8 - 8.2, have done water part changes ,but PH returns to above range.
Any suggestions of natural remedies. The only thing I've heard of is "PH
down", more chemicals! Prefer an alternative if anyone has one.


Look at previous threads of 9.0 pH and the threads on hardness and
hardness test kits for expalinations of buffering capacity. 7.8 you are
fine for most gf and Koi. If you are really intent on bringing it down
use peat in the filter. It will dye the water brown though. pH down will
bring it down for a bit but the pH will rebound.

--
JSin
Lost Generation Custom Tattoo
To reply Kill the idiot

David Appleby wrote:
PH 7.8 - 8.2, have done water part changes ,but PH returns to above range.
Any suggestions of natural remedies. The only thing I've heard of is "PH
down", more chemicals! Prefer an alternative if anyone has one.



Your ph is fine. Leave it alone and your fish will
be happy. Mine runs 8.5 and has for several years
without any problems.

--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/

Don't mess with the Ph too much. According with the experts messing up with the Ph is the major reason for discomfort and stress to fishes. Do you have a concret pond or with buthyl liner. Sometimes concret or untreated cement may increase your Ph.
A bag of peat may reduce your Ph and also acts as a buffer, all the chemicals are useless the water usually bounce back to the initial Ph.
Dont forget that during hot afternoons plants tend to increase the water's Ph and is nothing one can do about it.
7 Ph is (allegedly) ideal, anything between 6.5 and 8.5 is good.
9 Ph is not that bad, the worse thing is a Ph that fluctuates.
My water water was testing ideal from all points of view just the Ph was 8.5. In my stupid ambition to bring it to ideal (or close) I messed up with the Ph using different chemicals and solution such as Ph down...etc. Result? The water always has bounced back to 8.5, even worse I lost 9 fishes that had suddenly developed velvet and fungus. I put a 2Kg bag of peat inside my 500 gallons pond and the water ph has slighlty gone down to about 7.8 and stayed there for the last 3 months without any loss of fish.

I wouldnt mess with the ph unless you have a problem. The ph swings some
morning to evening. A drastic swing can cause a crisis. My ph runs 8.5 to
9.0 and my plants and fish are very happy and healthy. What is normal for
you at this time of year? I say leave it alone
"IceEros" wrote in message
s.com...
Don't mess with the Ph too much. According with the experts messing up
with the Ph is the major reason for discomfort and stress to fishes. Do
you have a concret pond or with buthyl liner. Sometimes concret or
untreated cement may increase your Ph.
A bag of peat may reduce your Ph and also acts as a buffer, all the
chemicals are useless the water usually bounce back to the initial Ph.

Dont forget that during hot afternoons plants tend to increase the
water's Ph and is nothing one can do about it.
7 Ph is (allegedly) ideal, anything between 6.5 and 8.5 is good.
9 Ph is not that bad, the worse thing is a Ph that fluctuates.
My water water was testing ideal from all points of view just the Ph
was 8.5. In my stupid ambition to bring it to ideal (or close) I messed
up with the Ph using different chemicals and solution such as Ph
down...etc. Result? The water always has bounced back to 8.5, even
worse I lost 9 fishes that had suddenly developed velvet and fungus. I
put a 2Kg bag of peat inside my 500 gallons pond and the water ph has
slighlty gone down to about 7.8 and stayed there for the last 3 months
without any loss of fish.
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IceEros
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