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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago
there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
Is it possible to use a cordless drill with a "spade" bit to drill a 1" hole
to allow you to put an airstone just below the surface of the ice ? Gale :~) "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote in message ... When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
After you drill the opening, it can be reopened daily with
either the drill or with a teakettle filled with hot water. The opening doesn't have to be open all the time, but it should be reopened daily. Bonnie NJ Gale Pearce wrote: Is it possible to use a cordless drill with a "spade" bit to drill a 1" hole to allow you to put an airstone just below the surface of the ice ? Gale :~) "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote in message ... When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
I agree with Gale, a drill, though a stock tank heater element will melt
thru the ice in no time. ~ jan On 9 Feb 2004 14:24:59 GMT, "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote: When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
Is it possible to use a cordless drill...
Gee, Gale, Bonnie and Jan... why didn't I think of that? It's very doable! And I even have a cordless drill and, I think, the right bit. I'm so glad I asked! Mila "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... I agree with Gale, a drill, though a stock tank heater element will melt thru the ice in no time. ~ jan On 9 Feb 2004 14:24:59 GMT, "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote: When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
I agree with Gale, a drill, though a stock tank heater element will melt
thru the ice in no time. ~ jan On 9 Feb 2004 14:24:59 GMT, "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote: When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
Is it possible to use a cordless drill...
Gee, Gale, Bonnie and Jan... why didn't I think of that? It's very doable! And I even have a cordless drill and, I think, the right bit. I'm so glad I asked! Mila "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message ... I agree with Gale, a drill, though a stock tank heater element will melt thru the ice in no time. ~ jan On 9 Feb 2004 14:24:59 GMT, "BTC/TAK on ACK" wrote: When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago there were a lot of electric service lines cut or "nicked". It appears nicked can be worse because it can take a few years before the line deteriorates. All of a sudden mid-day early in the week my power just went out! I was "lucky" that I got "temporary" power by the weekend... it will be weeks [or more] until another permanent line can be trenched in because of deep frost. We had succeeded in keeping our pond partially open all winter, but it froze over during the time we had no power... pretty thickly in fact. In a way that might have been a good thing because since then we had a few heavy "freezing rains" that flooded much of our yard. We chose the spot for our pond to avoid any flooding problem. It looks like it's in the lowest part of our property, so it appears to be a natural occurrence. But actually there's a large hidden area which is quite a bit lower. Flooding has never gone beyond that area until this weekend, when it was almost a foot over the pond, and the top of that even froze over until late yesterday. I was afraid the pond itself wasn't frozen quite enough to keep some "adventurous" fish from escaping into the flood water before the flooding subsided... especially since the ground is frozen so deeply that it's hardly absorbing any water. It's apparently absorbing more than we had any reason to expect, though, because the water over the pond area is gone [and no dead fish left behind, thank God]. The pond itself is still frozen over though. I'm afraid to "mechanically" break through the ice in the pond, with an axe for example, having heard that is dangerous for the fish. On the other hand I'm afraid to leave it frozen over much longer because of gaseous build-up under the ice. I had effectively been keeping it clear with air bubbles, and circulating water until last week, but that's not an option now. Any suggestions? |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago Learn how to make paragraphs. That hurts my eyes to read. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago Learn how to make paragraphs. That hurts my eyes to read. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
Learn how to make paragraphs.
Thanks for the input... it'll be very helpful, I'm sure. Mila "Offbreed" wrote in message ... BTC/TAK on ACK wrote: When a bike-path was put in along my property line a couple of years ago Learn how to make paragraphs. That hurts my eyes to read. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
Learn how to make paragraphs. Thanks for the input... it'll be very helpful, I'm sure. Sorry, lost track of which news group I was in. That would be counted as *polite* where I normally hang out, I lurk here to relax and learn a bit about aguaculture. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
Learn how to make paragraphs. Thanks for the input... it'll be very helpful, I'm sure. Sorry, lost track of which news group I was in. That would be counted as *polite* where I normally hang out, I lurk here to relax and learn a bit about aguaculture. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
Learn how to make paragraphs. Thanks for the input... it'll be very helpful, I'm sure. Sorry, lost track of which news group I was in. That would be counted as *polite* where I normally hang out, I lurk here to relax and learn a bit about aguaculture. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
Learn how to make paragraphs. Thanks for the input... it'll be very helpful, I'm sure. Sorry, lost track of which news group I was in. That would be counted as *polite* where I normally hang out, I lurk here to relax and learn a bit about aguaculture. |
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"Tale of Woe"... suggestions?
so tell us how it goes. and if you got a big enough spade bit you might want to drop
a 100watt aquarium heater down in there below the level of the airstone. it will keep a nice hole open!!! I had the same problem, electricity went out and froze over had to drill hole. that is when I decided to tent my pond every winter. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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