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Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house.
If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com |
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"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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I flinch at the thought of water and electric lines in the same
trench. It would be a better idea to use two trenches - less chance of disturbing one when digging up the other. As far as the material - Schedule 40 PVC would be adequate, I doubt if Schedule 80 would be worth the additional expense. I'd drive a 1/2" rebar (or wooden post) at least three feet into the ground to provide support for the spigot. The previous owner of my place did this, but managed to botch the job. He ran water lines to both ponds (and to various other points around the yard). The cheap $%@^#$@% used Schedule 20, so I frequently am pulling out sections to repair a leak. He put spigots positioned to discharge directly into the pond, as well as automatic fill valves. The latter was less successful for the koi pond. The koi liked to play with it until the pond overflowed, so he pulled it out. The goldfish in the other pond aren't as playful, so it wasn't a problem. PlainBill On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:05:55 -0500, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? |
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BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an
electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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"Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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There is another no no. I don't believe you are supposed to run
romex through conduit. For safety sake you really should follow national electrical codes. As for the water. If you plan to drain or blow it out for the winter, I would use 3/4" sprinkler tubing. It comes in 50' and 100' rolls and is very cheap and easy to work with. (barbed fittings) "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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There is another no no. I don't believe you are supposed to run
romex through conduit. For safety sake you really should follow national electrical codes. As for the water. If you plan to drain or blow it out for the winter, I would use 3/4" sprinkler tubing. It comes in 50' and 100' rolls and is very cheap and easy to work with. (barbed fittings) "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. |
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"Hank" wrote in message ... There is another no no. I don't believe you are supposed to run romex through conduit. For safety sake you really should follow national electrical codes. As for the water. If you plan to drain or blow it out for the winter, I would use 3/4" sprinkler tubing. It comes in 50' and 100' rolls and is very cheap and easy to work with. (barbed fittings) snip Sorry, my bad...I was using Romex like most of use the word Band Aid. I just meant wire (pronounced Whar). I'll be sure to talk to my 'lectrician friend before I do any of this. BV. |
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"Hank" wrote in message ... There is another no no. I don't believe you are supposed to run romex through conduit. For safety sake you really should follow national electrical codes. As for the water. If you plan to drain or blow it out for the winter, I would use 3/4" sprinkler tubing. It comes in 50' and 100' rolls and is very cheap and easy to work with. (barbed fittings) snip Sorry, my bad...I was using Romex like most of use the word Band Aid. I just meant wire (pronounced Whar). I'll be sure to talk to my 'lectrician friend before I do any of this. BV. |
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-- "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. BV call your local city hall or building inspector. Here building codes are pretty strict when it comes to running both hydro and water outdoors. Hydro lines must either be outside approved cable (double the price of regular cable) or be encased in conduit at least 18 inches below the ground. It can be run above ground is securely attached to permanent structures such as a fence but still must be in conduit. Water lines they want a minimum of 24 inches below ground and not within 4 feet of hydro lines. It needs to be well below the frost line for obvious reasons. I think it's also pretty obvious why you can't run both hydro and water lines in the same trench... Janet in Niagara Falls who's fish all survived and are up swimming around! :o) |
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-- "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? BV. BV call your local city hall or building inspector. Here building codes are pretty strict when it comes to running both hydro and water outdoors. Hydro lines must either be outside approved cable (double the price of regular cable) or be encased in conduit at least 18 inches below the ground. It can be run above ground is securely attached to permanent structures such as a fence but still must be in conduit. Water lines they want a minimum of 24 inches below ground and not within 4 feet of hydro lines. It needs to be well below the frost line for obvious reasons. I think it's also pretty obvious why you can't run both hydro and water lines in the same trench... Janet in Niagara Falls who's fish all survived and are up swimming around! :o) |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:05:55 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? I buried a 1.5" flexible (theoretically!) pipe from the house to the pond and ran 1/2" electrical conduit in the same trench under it. Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I plan to run 1/4" tubing (like that used for refrigerator icemakers) inside the 1.5" line for water. Since flow volume isn't a big deal for topping up, I think this will be OK. Still have lots of space to run other low-current wiring & such through the 1.5" pipe if I want to. My thought was that since I went to the trouble to dig a trench, I might as well set it up so I wouldn't be likely to need to dig it again. Just a thought. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:05:55 -0500, "BenignVanilla"
wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? I buried a 1.5" flexible (theoretically!) pipe from the house to the pond and ran 1/2" electrical conduit in the same trench under it. Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I plan to run 1/4" tubing (like that used for refrigerator icemakers) inside the 1.5" line for water. Since flow volume isn't a big deal for topping up, I think this will be OK. Still have lots of space to run other low-current wiring & such through the 1.5" pipe if I want to. My thought was that since I went to the trouble to dig a trench, I might as well set it up so I wouldn't be likely to need to dig it again. Just a thought. Mike Patterson Please remove the spamtrap to email me. |
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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Ka30P" wrote in message ... BV wrote Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? ak! I had an immediate mental picture of somebody digging in the backyard and hitting both lines at once. Looked like Wiley Coyote on one of his better days... You might always know that the lines run together but somebody else might not. And if you have boys like I have boys... digging illicit holes is right up there as mischief just waiting to happen. Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? I thought that sounded great? I mean really...If someone pounds a shovel through a piece of PVC, and thru both wires...will a little water really make a difference? Especially if these circuits have GFI's? here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-) But honestly, if the trench is deep/wide enough, why not run in same hole? But as others have said, check with local code/requirements would be a good idea also. Bryan (legal notice for those who spill McDonalds hot coffee on themselves, and sue M, I'm just kidding!) BV. |
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BV ~ Oh, I don't know nothing about those pesky electrons and H20 ;-)
BUT.... someone who was in the insurance industry, once posted here about this problem. In that if you have uninspected work like this on your property, and you have a fire, that your insurance can opt not to cover your damage. Even if it had nothing to do with the fire. Be that as it may, my DH is an electrical engineer for a nuclear power plant. When it came time to put in our power to our pond he hired an electrician. His reasoning was that the fellow knew housing codes inside and out. We also had it inspected by our city so we were doubly sure we were up to code. Being in nuclear power he always has to make sure all the bases are firmly covered so as to not bring down the wrath of the NRC upon his head. Same applies to our family and household. I know lots and lots of folks have extension cords all over the place and do their own electrical work. The insurance issue and the legality of it all puts me on the side of being extra careful and I'm glad we did it the way we did. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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BV ~ Oh, I don't know nothing about those pesky electrons and H20 ;-)
BUT.... someone who was in the insurance industry, once posted here about this problem. In that if you have uninspected work like this on your property, and you have a fire, that your insurance can opt not to cover your damage. Even if it had nothing to do with the fire. Be that as it may, my DH is an electrical engineer for a nuclear power plant. When it came time to put in our power to our pond he hired an electrician. His reasoning was that the fellow knew housing codes inside and out. We also had it inspected by our city so we were doubly sure we were up to code. Being in nuclear power he always has to make sure all the bases are firmly covered so as to not bring down the wrath of the NRC upon his head. Same applies to our family and household. I know lots and lots of folks have extension cords all over the place and do their own electrical work. The insurance issue and the legality of it all puts me on the side of being extra careful and I'm glad we did it the way we did. kathy :-) A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/"Once upon a pond/A |
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BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground) Joe On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run
individual wires (black, white and ground) Joe On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Sorry - also, probably should be 20 amp service given pump loads and such.
Joe On 3/3/04 5:20 PM, "joe" wrote: BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Joe On 3/3/04 10:05 AM, "BenignVanilla" wrote: Really? Running two conduits...one full of water, and one containing two romex cables sounds bad? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Bryan" wrote in message ... here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-) But honestly, if the trench is deep/wide enough, why not run in same hole? But as others have said, check with local code/requirements would be a good idea also. Bryan (legal notice for those who spill McDonalds hot coffee on themselves, and sue M, I'm just kidding!) Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Sameer |
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"Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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"Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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"Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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One pipe was never mentioned in your post, BV.
Your post was clear to me. Some folks just don't read carefully enough - my opinion ;-) Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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"Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
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"Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Ahh, OK. I was confused. BV. |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:
BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
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One pipe was never mentioned in your post, BV.
Your post was clear to me. Some folks just don't read carefully enough - my opinion ;-) Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... snip Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV. |
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OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
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"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
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"Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Ahh, OK. I was confused. BV. |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote:
BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
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OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then
went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. Nedra http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836 http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118 "Snooze" wrote in message m... "BenignVanilla" wrote in message ... "Snooze" wrote in message . com... Right about now, there is probably printing your comments out saying, "See, I told you we could save a lot of money and time by using only 1 pipe!" Just to be clear, I meant water and electrical conduit in the same trench not the same conduit. Was that clear? BV you didn't read the comment of the person I was following up to. Brian had made a joke and said "here's a thought. save $ on pvc, run the electrical inside the waterline! :-)" My comment was directed towards him, not your original post. Sameer |
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"Nedra" wrote in message link.net... OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet, you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's creme brulee, then it's 2 servings. Sameer |
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"Nedra" wrote in message link.net... OPSS ... Sorry, Sameer. Actually I destroyed my post and then went ahead and sent it :( Guess I'll go with my initial thought from now on. It's okay, but now you're in debt to me. The price is should we ever meet, you owe me one serving of whatever your favorite dessert is. Unless it's creme brulee, then it's 2 servings. Sameer |
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BenignVanilla wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below the elec conduit at least a foot I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1" PVC with a ball valve John Rutz |
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BenignVanilla wrote: Right now, when I want to fill the pond, I drag a hose out from the house. If I wanted to put a spigot out back by the pond, what would be the best material to use? Can I bury it in the same trench that I am using for an electrical conduit? -- BV. www.iheartmypond.com PVC and yes u can use the same trencnh but put the water line below the elec conduit at least a foot I 'think if you look through my pond site you can see my outlet, its 1" PVC with a ball valve John Rutz |
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OK I ran romex through condiut for my old trailer,for 50 ft the line is
still in opweration aftr 10 yrs when we wired the pond the romex is in conduit, its required by the bldg code if its exposed(NOT INSIDE A WALL) or buried John RUTZ Hal wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 17:20:56 -0800, joe wrote: BV - you shouldn't run romex in conduit, it gets too hot. You need to run individual wires (black, white and ground) Do you have a reference for this information? I've never heard it before and some companies make fittings to accommodate running romex into and through conduit. I'm sure there must be a situation calling for individual wires, I just don't believe we are talking about that situation, but I'd like to know, if you will explain it to me. Are we talking about plastic or metal conduit? I've seen metal conduit wired in this fashion, but never knew why because the wire wasn't long enough to overheat with a normal load. I've listed a couple references for using romex in conduit: http://www.donpearman.com/forensics/...sedromex.shtml http://www.homewiringandmore.com/hom...nduitfill.html That URL will probably have to be put back together, but here is a note from that page that indicates someone uses romex in conduit. “Special Notes” When installing multi - conductor cable such as Romex in a conduit you must calculate the actual dimensions of the cable at it’s widest point, and figured as a circular assembly. Then compare this area required to the 40% fill allowed for the conduit being used. Regards, Hal |
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