Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan

"HK_Newbie" wrote in news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77
@trndny05:

Any opinions?

Depending on the size, either a big kitchen knife or an axe... :/
I had to use an axe on the last fish I had to put down.

--
http://www.neopets.com/refer.phtml?username=moosespet

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:11:05 +0000, HK_Newbie wrote:

Alright, I've pretty much given up hope on one of my pond goldfish on ever
getting better, so I moved him into an indoor tank (after acclimating him to
the temp change) and waited a week for what I assume to be a severe slim
bladder disorder to heal. He was laying either on the top or bottom of the
pond, moving only when prodded and gasping for breath while the rest of his
pond mates seemed fine. I figured it would be easier to treat him inside,
in my hospital tank, but so far no luck. All my past experience for what I
assume to be dropsy (bulging scales, inability to swim rightside up or
maintain balance) the fish has either healed under treatment within a week
or died. This fish just won't do either though...

I've also fed him a thawed out pea just in case as well.

I feel that his options are pretty much gone and I'm not really interested
in seeing how long he can prolong his suffering, so my main question is the
best way to go about "ending" it for him. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan


Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...

It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer. Just typing this makes me squirm. I know, I know,
the guillotine is kinder, but I can't.

Ruth Kazez

"rtk" wrote in message
...

It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer.

I had to put a fish down once and freezing cold water with a couple drops of
alcohol did the deed in only a second or two.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:12:46 GMT, "Nitesbane"
wrote:


"rtk" wrote in message
...

It really is a problem because fish tend to die so terribly slowly. I
know the best way to end it, but no way would I be able to do that.
Usually I don't have the courage to do anything and that's the cruelest
non-solution of all. I've seen a fish take more than a week to slowly
die and of course I read all sorts of silly accusatory messages in their
pathetic little clouded eyes. If I were braver and more considerate of
the fish than I am of my own selfish feelings, I would remove them with
a little tank water and perhaps add a little alcohol to the water
and/or the freezer.

I had to put a fish down once and freezing cold water with a couple drops of
alcohol did the deed in only a second or two.

If you drop a fish in freezing cold water, they will flap around for a
second before expiring. It is a method I have used, but some people
here think it is tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment.

Tom Randy wrote:

Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...

It's hard to understand how "off with the head" could be fast or humane.
I've seen fish heads gasping for what seemed like hours (but I was a kid at
the time, so might have been just a few minutes).

Now, a completely untested method I was told about last summer was "vodka in
the gills, then off with the head". Seems like a waste of alcohol to me.
--
derek

Tom Randy wrote:

Well this is highly debated in fish cicles. Some say clove oil, some say
freezing, some say off with the head is the fastest way.

Thankfully I haven't had to do it yet...

It's hard to understand how "off with the head" could be fast or humane.
I've seen fish heads gasping for what seemed like hours (but I was a kid at
the time, so might have been just a few minutes).

Now, a completely untested method I was told about last summer was "vodka in
the gills, then off with the head". Seems like a waste of alcohol to me.
--
derek

How about peeling out on him with the car?

Flushing down the commode?

Drop in a bucket of bleach?

just some ideas off the top.


s


"HK_Newbie" wrote in message
news:J7Rtd.343$P14.77@trndny05...
.. I realize how stupid this might
sound, but I rather liked this fish and have had him in my pond for three
years so I want to do this as quickly as I can. Any opinions? Or have
there been personally experienced cases where your own fish survived over
a
week in this conditition to make a recovery?

I'll cross-post since this is a pond fish too, thanks in advance!

--Ryan

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.

None of which were any good.


--
Eric Schreiber
www.ericschreiber.com

On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:33:46 -0600, "Eric Schreiber" eric at
ericschreiber dot com wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

How about peeling out on him with the car?
Flushing down the commode?
Drop in a bucket of bleach?
just some ideas off the top.

None of which were any good.

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
...

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
.. .

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?

Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:52:04 +0200, "Happy'Cam'per" wrote:

"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
.. .

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?

Yes, sometimes I take a drink but it does not interfere with the care
I take of my fish or the enthusiasm I feel for aquaria.

Hey DL where ya been! Haven't seen ya in a while!!

Happy Holidays ...



"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
...
"The Drunken Lord" wrote in message
...

We have apparently been infested with losers from rec.ponds.

And lets guess, you are the upstanding drunken mullet of the aquaria NG's?
--
"In the beginning, God said the four-dimensional divergence of an
antisymmetric,
second rank tensor equals zero, and there was Light , and it was good."