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Digging a new pond and renting a ?
Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the
pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? |
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"jedi" wrote:
Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Without really answering your question, be sure to call around to local guys who own their own equipment. Ofttimes it's cheaper to pay an expert (who knows how to dig the hole *fast*) than to pay rental fees while you learn how (and how not) to use the equipment. |
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Andy has a good point. We spend hours and
much dollars on renting a chipper and it gummed up and what a mess. Called in the experts and the job went fast and was cheaper. kathy |
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"Andy Hill" wrote in message ... "jedi" wrote: Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Without really answering your question, be sure to call around to local guys who own their own equipment. Ofttimes it's cheaper to pay an expert (who knows how to dig the hole *fast*) than to pay rental fees while you learn how (and how not) to use the equipment. And by all means make sure there is not a petroleum pipeline right where you want the pond. -- BV Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com http://www.iheartmypond.com I'll be leaning on the bus stop post. |
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message ... "Andy Hill" wrote in message ... "jedi" wrote: Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Without really answering your question, be sure to call around to local guys who own their own equipment. Ofttimes it's cheaper to pay an expert (who knows how to dig the hole *fast*) than to pay rental fees while you learn how (and how not) to use the equipment. And by all means make sure there is not a petroleum pipeline right where you want the pond. ============================== Or a buried phone cable. -- Carol.... the frugal ponder... I have a firm grip on reality. Now I can strangle it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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And by all means make sure there is not a petroleum pipeline right where
you want the pond. BV ============================== Or a buried phone cable. Carol Timely Pond Digging Advice: CALL BEFORE YOU DIG! ~ jan ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~ |
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"Andy Hill" wrote in message
... "jedi" wrote: Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Without really answering your question, be sure to call around to local guys who own their own equipment. Ofttimes it's cheaper to pay an expert (who knows how to dig the hole *fast*) than to pay rental fees while you learn how (and how not) to use the equipment. True, but not half the fun. :-) It's the old boys and toys thing. YMMV Jerry |
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"Jerry Donovan" wrote:
"Andy Hill" wrote in message .. . "jedi" wrote: Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Without really answering your question, be sure to call around to local guys who own their own equipment. Ofttimes it's cheaper to pay an expert (who knows how to dig the hole *fast*) than to pay rental fees while you learn how (and how not) to use the equipment. True, but not half the fun. :-) It's the old boys and toys thing. YMMV Well, sure. If you're just dying to learn how to use one of those little backhoes, by all means have at it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you're saving money. |
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"jedi" wrote:
Ok, I have decided that there is no way I am going to be able to dig out the pond I now have in mind on my own so I'm thinking of renting a digging device.... It has to be small enough that I can get it in my back yard - maybe I could take out one section of fence. Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? I rented a small backhoe that went through a 4'-4" opening with a tad to spare. It was a blast to operate too - good testosterone high. I think if you phone some rental places, they'll tell you what they have. San Diego Joe 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons. Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar. |
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On or about Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:54:09 -0500, "jedi"
wrote something like: Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Caterpillar D-1 Sorry, old construction joke. There are several rental small backhoe style units that have a bucket of a cubic foot or so. They are fun to run. Be sure you call your local 800 "Call Before You Dig" number. You would be surprised at how many lines and pipes run through backyard america. You do not want to have tp pay to replace everyone's cable service. Any of your local rental stores will have several choices, along with a trailer that you 'll need for transport to and fro. Wear a helmet (it looks cool), and hearing and eye protection. These babies make noise and dust. You should also think about your own water and electric lines when you do this. The water can be right at the pond, but the electric must be a certain distance away, like 15 feet or so. Check your local government to see if you need a permit for the pond and for the digging. DIG WE MUST! -- Crashj |
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On Fri, 2005-25-02 at 04:35 +0000, Crashj wrote:
On or about Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:54:09 -0500, "jedi" wrote something like: Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is that you can rent and how easy they are to use? Caterpillar D-1 Sorry, old construction joke. There are several rental small backhoe style units that have a bucket of a cubic foot or so. They are fun to run. Be sure you call your local 800 "Call Before You Dig" number. You would be surprised at how many lines and pipes run through backyard america. You do not want to have tp pay to replace everyone's cable service. Well, you know, I'd have to doubt that you could be forced to pay for replacing everybody else's cable service if they've got lines running through your land without an express right of way. Electrical and gas lines are the real problem - if you cut one of those, how much it's going to cost can be _literally_ the last thing on your mind. -- derek |
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"Derek Broughon" wrote in message a... snip Well, you know, I'd have to doubt that you could be forced to pay for replacing everybody else's cable service if they've got lines running through your land without an express right of way. Electrical and gas lines are the real problem - if you cut one of those, how much it's going to cost can be _literally_ the last thing on your mind. snip From the MD, Miss Utility site... "Penalties for Violating the Miss Utility Laws: Actual repair costs, and civil penalties up to $1,000 per violation for the first offense, plus up to 10 times the actual cost of repairs, which can equate to millions of dollars, for each subsequent offense. " Call before you dig. -- BV Webporgmaster of iheartmypond.com http://www.iheartmypond.com I'll be leaning on the bus stop post. |
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On Fri, 2005-25-02 at 13:00 -0500, Benign Vanilla wrote:
"Derek Broughon" wrote in message a... snip Well, you know, I'd have to doubt that you could be forced to pay for replacing everybody else's cable service if they've got lines running through your land without an express right of way. From the MD, Miss Utility site... "Penalties for Violating the Miss Utility Laws: Actual repair costs, and civil penalties up to $1,000 per violation for the first offense, plus up to 10 times the actual cost of repairs, which can equate to millions of dollars, for each subsequent offense. " Sure, but don't they have to have a right of way? Not for your own utility supply lines, but I've never seen a case of a legitimate utility line running straight across a person's property: they either run on the road allowance, or they get an explicit lien (which goes on your property deed). You'd be hard-pressed to be in violation otherwise. I _have_ seen illegally (in the sense of not having permission from the property owner, not service stolen from the cable co.) and improperly installed shared cable lines, and whole blocks have lost their service when someone cut it - but the Cable co is on the hook for repairs. -- derek |
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Derek Broughon wrote:
On Fri, 2005-25-02 at 13:00 -0500, Benign Vanilla wrote: "Derek Broughon" wrote in message .ca... snip Well, you know, I'd have to doubt that you could be forced to pay for replacing everybody else's cable service if they've got lines running through your land without an express right of way. From the MD, Miss Utility site... "Penalties for Violating the Miss Utility Laws: Actual repair costs, and civil penalties up to $1,000 per violation for the first offense, plus up to 10 times the actual cost of repairs, which can equate to millions of dollars, for each subsequent offense. " Sure, but don't they have to have a right of way? Not for your own utility supply lines, but I've never seen a case of a legitimate utility line running straight across a person's property: they either run on the road allowance, or they get an explicit lien (which goes on your property deed). You'd be hard-pressed to be in violation otherwise. I _have_ seen illegally (in the sense of not having permission from the property owner, not service stolen from the cable co.) and improperly installed shared cable lines, and whole blocks have lost their service when someone cut it - but the Cable co is on the hook for repairs. I work for a telephone company and have had to repair cables that were cut when digging for a foundation for a house. The cables were placed years ago in an easement. Someone bought 3 properties equaling 45 acres. The easement was not readily identifiable and decided to put his house where the cable was. He wasn't very happy to pay that bill. |
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On or about Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:05:52 -0400, Derek Broughon
wrote something like: On Fri, 2005-25-02 at 04:35 +0000, Crashj wrote: On or about Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:54:09 -0500, "jedi" wrote something like: Does anyone know what the smallest excavator is Caterpillar D-1 Be sure you call your local 800 "Call Before You Dig" number. Well, you know, I'd have to doubt that you could be forced to pay for replacing everybody else's cable service if they've got lines running through your land without an express right of way. It is called an easement. They have the permission. You have to check your land title and local and State laws to find them That is why you call beforehand. This is not a time for the old saw about being easier to ask forgiveness that to ask permission. Being wrong can be very expensive. -- Crashj |
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