Gareee© wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message
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Geezer From The Freezer wrote:

Get the snake out and take it to the nearest river.

really bad advice, this could well be illegal. The RSPCA will come out and
take care of it for you.


Actually, this is exactly what our local animal control people told us. If a
snake is NOT poisonous and a threat, they will not come and remove it, but
they told us to catch him, and relocate him into a nearby stream or lake.

Are you in the UK?

If it is a animal not native to the area, I can see that being an issue, but
if it something native to the area, and not a threat, then I don't see an
issue at all.

How do you know whether it's native or not unless a good identification
has been made? Equally whether or not it's poisonous? The poster said he
lived s/w England and had an unidentified snake.

The RSPCA will come and shift it for you, or at the very least come and
identify it and tell you what the law is regarding it. Again, it could
well be illegal to move it out to the countryside.

From the act "Further protection is offered to the rarest species. Any
form of deliberate or reckless disturbance to these species is a
criminal offence, as is possession of these species at any life stage.
Licences may be granted for the handling of these animals, for
scientific or conservation purposes."

If you try to move one of these protected species you can be prosecuted
for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining the pond would
also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other things if it
disturbs the protected species.

If you try to move one of these protected species you can be prosecuted
for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining the pond would
also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other things if it
disturbs the protected species.

Green politics run amuck! Property rights trump all this environazi
invasion into your property. Send the snake packing, I say, just don't
tell anyone... even if it's "protected". Meanwhile, send the environuts
packing out of your local congress, if they're passing laws that make
it so that you can't maintain your own pond and land!!!

C//

Courageous wrote:
If you try to move one of these protected species you can be prosecuted
for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining the pond would
also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other things if it
disturbs the protected species.


Green politics run amuck! Property rights trump all this environazi
invasion into your property. Send the snake packing, I say, just don't
tell anyone... even if it's "protected". Meanwhile, send the environuts
packing out of your local congress, if they're passing laws that make
it so that you can't maintain your own pond and land!!!

C//

Wait until we start talking about bats! lol

Martin wrote:
Courageous wrote:
If you try to move one of these protected species you can be prosecuted

for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining the pond would

also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other things if it
disturbs the protected species.


Green politics run amuck! Property rights trump all this environazi
invasion into your property. Send the snake packing, I say, just don't
tell anyone... even if it's "protected". Meanwhile, send the environuts
packing out of your local congress, if they're passing laws that make
it so that you can't maintain your own pond and land!!!

C//

Wait until we start talking about bats! lol


Hello,
It will soon want to come on land to sun itself, and it probably does it
every day at about the same time. Place your kitty in her kitty-carry-box
so that she can see the snake coming out to sun itself. Do this everyday
for about a week or until kitty knows about the snake and its regularity.
If this isnot a pond in which your children swim etc. why do you want the
snake to leave? Snakes eat bad bugs and things . . . Killing a snake is
as killing a mosquito eater. Your snake may be eating mosquito larva, and
this could save a family-member's life if the mosquitoes in your area are
infected with dangerous disease. Save a life (it may be your own) let the
snake alone. Let him do his job.


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Martin wrote:
Gareee© wrote:
"Martin" wrote in message
...

Geezer From The Freezer wrote:

Get the snake out and take it to the nearest river.

really bad advice, this could well be illegal. The RSPCA will come out
and
take care of it for you.


Actually, this is exactly what our local animal control people told us.
If a
snake is NOT poisonous and a threat, they will not come and remove it,
but
they told us to catch him, and relocate him into a nearby stream or lake.

Are you in the UK?

If it is a animal not native to the area, I can see that being an issue,
but
if it something native to the area, and not a threat, then I don't see
an
issue at all.

How do you know whether it's native or not unless a good identification

has been made? Equally whether or not it's poisonous? The poster said he

lived s/w England and had an unidentified snake.

The RSPCA will come and shift it for you, or at the very least come and

identify it and tell you what the law is regarding it. Again, it could
well be illegal to move it out to the countryside.

From the act "Further protection is offered to the rarest species. Any

form of deliberate or reckless disturbance to these species is a
criminal offence, as is possession of these species at any life stage.
Licences may be granted for the handling of these animals, for
scientific or conservation purposes."

If you try to move one of these protected species you can be prosecuted

for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining the pond would

also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other things if it
disturbs the protected species.


Hello,
Having the snake in his private pond constitutes trapping, holding and being
in possession of a "protected species"?
He better not call the RSPCA or they will throw him in jail.
As soon as "kitty" finds out about the snake, snake will leave of his own
volition.

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Harry wrote:

Martin wrote:

How do you know whether it's native or not unless a good identification
has been made? Equally whether or not it's poisonous? The poster said he

There _are_ only three native species of snakes in the UK -
http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/identification.htm#native (and of course none
in Ireland). It's not that hard to identify them (and which one is
poisonous).

lived s/w England and had an unidentified snake.

The RSPCA will come and shift it for you, or at the very least come and
identify it and tell you what the law is regarding it. Again, it could
well be illegal to move it out to the countryside.

They're all protected under the Wildlife & Countryside act.

Having the snake in his private pond constitutes trapping, holding and
being in possession of a "protected species"?

It could. Stranger things have happened.
--
derek

Courageous wrote:

If you try to move one of these protected species you can be
prosecuted for it, whether you want it in your pond or not. Draining
the pond would also be illegal, fencing it in, cleaning or most other
things if it disturbs the protected species.



Green politics run amuck! Property rights trump all this environazi
invasion into your property. Send the snake packing, I say, just don't
tell anyone... even if it's "protected". Meanwhile, send the environuts
packing out of your local congress, if they're passing laws that make
it so that you can't maintain your own pond and land!!!


Indeed. In the U.S. these days, you can't even move a pile of dirt or
drain a mosquito-infested puddle on your own property without possibly
risking heavy fines and a jail sentence. Well, I say we humans didn't
evolve to the top of the food chain and prosper by sacrificing our needs
for the good of some damn species of vermin! It's not like they give a
damn about OUR survival, do they? I always thought conservation of
natural resources and wildlife was a noble goal, but ever since the fall
of the Iron Curtain the environmentalist movement became a haven for all
the old socialists/communists seeking to abolish private property and
collectivize everything under authoritarian government control, and the
most radical groups are a bunch of misanthropic liberal-guilt-ridden
earth-worshiping eco-terrorists who actually believe that humans are
some kind of an unnatural infestation of the planet. Eco-nazis have also
infiltrated and become nearly indistinguishable from the animal rights
movement, which once upon a time simply fought for the welfare and
humane treatment of animals, but now seeks to put the needs of animals
on the same (or higher) moral level as humans. These are sick, sick
people on the left wing who are equal to the worst religious extremists
on the right wing.

- Logic316

"Private property began the instant somebody had a mind of his own."
-- E. E. Cummings

"Ultimately property rights and personal rights are the same thing."
-- Calvin Coolidge

"No other rights are safe where property is not safe."
-- Daniel Webster

"[t]he moment that idea is admitted into society that property is not as
sacred as the Laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and
public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property
must be sacred or liberty cannot exist.
-- John Adams

“Something has gone seriously awry with this Court's interpretation of
the Constitution. Though citizens are safe from the government in their
homes, the homes themselves are not."
-- Justice Clarence Thomas