On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:02:01 +0000 (UTC), "Martin"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:14:34 +0000 (UTC), in rec.gardens.roses you
wrote:


Perhaps you should read my first response again, you have it wrong.

Ahem, here is your "first response", in its entirety (with the
advertising disabled):
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You will find an article on pruning on the Be*se web site at:-
http://home.btco.com/cadoss/bexrose


Regards

Martin Double
Bexrose - Webmaster
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Now, how is what I said wrong? The article on pruning *wasn't* the one
about the method that I was asking about.

BTW, you never said whether you actually grow roses yourself. Have you
ever opposite of the business end of a pair of shears? Either you or
Franz can answer if you'd like. But if Franz answers, we'll have our
answer, I suppose, because I'll bet that he claims to have 2,000 roses
and prunes the Queen's garden in Windsor.


You will need to prune my responses better than that to lose my original
comment on the straight cut pruning method! If I can still see it, then so
can others, so stop being so silly.

That was your *first* response to my query, *exactly* as you posted
it, with a little alteration of your advertising only. *Later*, you
said this:

"On the question of pruning straight across, I recall the Royal
National Rose Society (foolishly) advocate this method on one
occasion, but they have since rescinded that advice. The method did
not choose any particular line to cut to for individual stems, it was
more a case of "hedge cutting with a hedge trimmer or lawn shears".
This method might appear to work to start with on vigorous bushes but
die back will be extensive which will eventually weaken and/or make
the rose look unsightly".

No reference to the article that you *eventually* posted as "the
second time" that you had posted it. Also, the article that you posted
claimed that the dieback wasn't as bad as you claimed, and this was
confirmed by another poster, nor have you offered any credible
rebuttal to the article that you yourself posted.

I do grow roses, however rather than brag to the entire newsgroup about how
well I grow roses, I can send you those details direct if you wish.

No thanks. But thanks for your comfirmation that you aren't just a
needy website developer.

You are obviously not well up in rose circles yourself to have the need to ask the
question in the first place!

Ohhhh, I think it's obvious that I don't move in "rose circles".

I notice that there are at least four Martin's on this news group, so I am a
bit confused myself especially when one response by a so called Martin that
appeared to come from me, when it had not.

Now this is just obsfucation. I am only commenting on *your* postings
on the roses newsgroup.

Maybe you could throw some light on this! As to your paranoia about Franz and me; all I can say is that I do
not know the person but have seen some of his posts on the newsgroup other
than that there is no connection. I think we need an explaination from you
before deciding whether to have you commited or not!

Others have commented as well. I have posted headers from both of you
which clearly indicate that Franz is your sockpuppet (or the other way
around). And the only response has been, "you're wrong". I think that
people can decide for themselves.

What has the number of roses Franz grows got to do with anything?
You could ask how many I grow perhaps, there would be a little sense in that.

I did comment on how many roses you might claim to grow, actually.
chuckle


Regards

Martin Double