I put in a small pond this winter and want to get a few plants for it. Who
in town (or online) has good selection/quality/prices?

Also, any plant suggestions? It gets pretty good sun, but some midday
shade. It's half moon shaped, 7' long, 3' wide, 3' deep in the center, with
1' ledges on the tips. I also have a hypertufa veggie filter (sans veggies
at the moment) 1.5'x2.5'x1.5' deep that spills over into the pond.

What's an appropriate fish stocking rate for this size pond and should I
wait until later in the year to add fish?

Gold fish

"animaux" wrote in message
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You may want to post to rec.ponds. Also, there is a very good source for
aquatic plants on 183, called "Hill Country Water Gardens."



On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:29:03 GMT, "groober" wrote:

I put in a small pond this winter and want to get a few plants for it.
Who
in town (or online) has good selection/quality/prices?

Also, any plant suggestions? It gets pretty good sun, but some midday
shade. It's half moon shaped, 7' long, 3' wide, 3' deep in the center,
with
1' ledges on the tips. I also have a hypertufa veggie filter (sans
veggies
at the moment) 1.5'x2.5'x1.5' deep that spills over into the pond.

What's an appropriate fish stocking rate for this size pond and should I
wait until later in the year to add fish?

"Victor M. Martinez" wrote:
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animaux wrote:
comets (ordinary goldfish) in the pond. They grow to 12 inches. Ther=
e used to
be a rule of thumb one inch per gallon of water, but I would go much l=
ighter on
=

That rule of thumb applies only to tropical slender fish.
The rule of thumb
for goldfish is 10 gallons per inch of fish.

My outdoor pond is 4'X3'x14" and it has six goldfish. Three are are 6
inches long and are 4 years old.

the fish load than that. Our 4 fish and the few bottom feeder fish, t=
he pond is
=

Which bottom feeders do you have? Do they survive the winter?
=

Our pond is allowed to develop algae, etc. It's all part of a natural=
element.
We don't try to make our pond look like a swimming pool with clear wa=
ter.
=

There is a natural way to prevent string algae (which robs nutrients th=
at
could otherwise be used by the lillies and the bog plants). Submerged b=
arley
bale helps reduce (or eliminate) unsightly string algae. Give it a shot=
=2E

Yes, there is is a plant grower in my area that has a large pond and
uses barley bale. There is also a straw that accomplishes this. My guess
is this lady wants that the algae in her pond and in my opinion, I don't
think its that big of a deal. True, it may divert some nutrients from
bog marginals but not that much. Some people demand a clear pond. In a
balanced pond in nature, you will find this. But its all in the
preference of that person's taste. The fact that there is a water
feature is sufficient, regardles of whether its clear or not.

--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

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J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html

The fish are 4 years old.

animaux wrote:
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:13:41 -0600, J Kolenovsky wr=
ote:
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My outdoor pond is 4'X3'x14" and it has six goldfish. Three are are 6
inches long and are 4 years old.
=

You are eventually going to have problems with ammonia in the water. T=
hat is
way too many goldfish.

-- =

J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html

I installed this 4'X3'x14" pond in May, 1992. I have gotten the numbers
right for the fish to survive. The first batch (2'3's of them)came out
after 6 years and went to a school courtyard pond in 1998. The last 1/3
came out in 2000 and went to Nelson Water Gardens production pond. The
three 6 inchers have been in since 1998. =


animaux wrote:
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:13:41 -0600, J Kolenovsky wr=
ote:
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My outdoor pond is 4'X3'x14" and it has six goldfish. Three are are 6
inches long and are 4 years old.
=

You are eventually going to have problems with ammonia in the water. T=
hat is
way too many goldfish.

-- =

J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html

Oh, and I have bird netting strung across the rabiit fence that
surrounds the pond. Keeps dogs, cats and herons out. The bullfrogs and
water snake seem to get in o-k.

animaux wrote:
You are eventually going to have problems with ammonia in the water. T=
hat is
way too many goldfish.

-- =

J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com
=F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html

Do you have a test kit to test for ammonia and nitrites? If not, bring a sample
to PetSmart and they'll test it for free. I have a 165 gallon pond and 4 comets
(goldfish) are all the pond can support without being overloaded and constantly
recycling the ammonia spikes.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:52:06 -0600, J Kolenovsky wrote:

The fish are 4 years old.

animaux wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:13:41 -0600, J Kolenovsky wrote:

My outdoor pond is 4'X3'x14" and it has six goldfish. Three are are 6
inches long and are 4 years old.

You are eventually going to have problems with ammonia in the water. That is
way too many goldfish.