We had our garden open to the public yesterday and one of the comments was
'Don't you have a lot of birds?'. We have bird feeders behind wire netting
to keep the Pigeons off and also to try to keep the Starlings off.

I think that Sparrows are our most common bird along with a few Tits and a
baby Robin :-))

Keeping the vermin cat out of the garden is one of the most important
elements of our being able to enjoy the 'natural' wild life. Why the Hell
aren't all vermin cats drowned at birth? Just what good do they do for
society? NOTHING

Oh God the 'Owners' will now have a go at me to prove that they DO NOT have
me killfiled :-))))))

Mike

:-)))))

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:02:44 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:

We had our garden open to the public yesterday and one of the comments was
'Don't you have a lot of birds?'. We have bird feeders behind wire netting
to keep the Pigeons off and also to try to keep the Starlings off.

I think that Sparrows are our most common bird along with a few Tits and a
baby Robin :-))

Keeping the vermin cat out of the garden is one of the most important
elements of our being able to enjoy the 'natural' wild life. Why the Hell
aren't all vermin cats drowned at birth? Just what good do they do for
society? NOTHING

Oh God the 'Owners' will now have a go at me to prove that they DO NOT have
me killfiled :-))))))

Mike

:-)))))



I'm not a great devotee of cats though I do know they provide a great
deal of stress relief for their appreciative owners. It also appears
that in the majority of cases, the RSPB do not agree with your
assumption, though I too find it hard to believe I must admit.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/gardens/advic...y_of_index.asp

Andy

I'm not a great devotee of cats though I do know they provide a great
deal of stress relief for their appreciative owners.


Stress relief?

Try http://www.bkwsu.com/

Mike
Who never knowingly tells lies
Does he Mabbett?

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


I'm not a great devotee of cats though I do know they provide a great
deal of stress relief for their appreciative owners.


Stress relief?

Yes... perhaps though not the best choice of term. :-)


Try http://www.bkwsu.com/

Mike
Who never knowingly tells lies
Does he Mabbett?


Andy

Yes... perhaps though not the best choice of term. :-)


No

Try again.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


Yes... perhaps though not the best choice of term. :-)


No

Try again.


Just try stroking a pussy for a few minutes and you'll see. :-)

Andy

"Andy Pandy" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


Yes... perhaps though not the best choice of term. :-)


No

Try again.


Just try stroking a pussy for a few minutes and you'll see. :-)

Andy

If it comes that close I will strangle the vermin

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:58:23 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


"Andy Pandy" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:16:09 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


Yes... perhaps though not the best choice of term. :-)


No

Try again.


Just try stroking a pussy for a few minutes and you'll see. :-)

Andy

If it comes that close I will strangle the vermin


See :-

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informa...g/general/pet/
You might just change your mind !

See :-

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informa...g/general/pet/
You might just change your mind !



I am a dog lover.

I have had dogs.
I have trained dogs.


Good enough for you?

and before you come down on the old chestnut about dog crap on pavements,
that is as a result of untrained humans.

Mike wrote:

Keeping the vermin cat out of the garden is one of the most important
elements of our being able to enjoy the 'natural' wild life. Why the Hell
aren't all vermin cats drowned at birth? Just what good do they do for
society? NOTHING

Oh God the 'Owners' will now have a go at me to prove that they DO NOT have
me killfiled :-))))))

You insensitive clod!

There's nothing wrong with cats ... that a muzzle, straightjacket, and
shackles won't cure

Seriously though, there are a whole series of laws that restrict what
dogs (and their owners) can do - Control of Dogs Order; Town Police
Clauses Act; Dogs Act; Animals Act, Road Traffic Act, Clean
Neighbourhoods and Environment Act; Guard Dogs Act; and the Dangerous
Dogs Act.

Where are the associated restrictions for cats and their owners?

Every law I've read relating to cats is about *protecting* the cold,
beady-eyed, vicious little b'stards.

At least dogs don't decimate the local wildlife.

If someone is going to have a pet, let them keep it on a leash. No excuses.

I’m not naturally malicious, but sorry (to those who care) – if I saw a
cat attacking the birds in my garden then I’d bash its head in with the
garden spade, and have no compunction about doing it either.

--
[H]omer

Problem with cats in your garden?
Try this: http://img169.exs.cx/img169/6382/kitten8va.jpg

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


I'm not a great devotee of cats though I do know they provide a great
deal of stress relief for their appreciative owners.


Stress relief?

Try http://www.bkwsu.com/

Mike
Who never knowingly tells lies
Does he Mabbett?


Is your straight jacket too tight?
Bored with banging your head against the padded wall.?
Is it really too late to ask for professional help?
Do your old comrades know about your problem?

Dr. Freud

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


See :-

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informa...g/general/pet/
You might just change your mind !



I am a dog lover.

I have had dogs.

and old trick you learnt in the navy.

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:39:44 +0000 (UTC), "Mike"
wrote:


See :-

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_informa...g/general/pet/
You might just change your mind !



I am a dog lover.

I have had dogs.
I have trained dogs.


Good enough for you?

and before you come down on the old chestnut about dog crap on pavements,
that is as a result of untrained humans.

Sadly, it sounds as if your dogs are not providing the required level
pacification. I recommend you try a cat next time... Much better
results ! :-)))

In article ,
"Mike" wrote:

We had our garden open to the public yesterday and one of the comments was
'Don't you have a lot of birds?'. We have bird feeders behind wire netting
to keep the Pigeons off and also to try to keep the Starlings off.

Leaving aside any mention of cats, dogs, etc .. I am MUCH more
interested in the type of wire netting you use to protect the bird
feeders. What type is it? What gauge (i.e. how big are the holes?)

ta
john

"John" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Mike" wrote:

We had our garden open to the public yesterday and one of the comments
was
'Don't you have a lot of birds?'. We have bird feeders behind wire
netting
to keep the Pigeons off and also to try to keep the Starlings off.

Leaving aside any mention of cats, dogs, etc .. I am MUCH more
interested in the type of wire netting you use to protect the bird
feeders. What type is it? What gauge (i.e. how big are the holes?)

ta
john

Better point out that I am on the Isle of Wight and do not have the Grey
Squirrel problem so we can operate without being cautious of those.

We have a post mounted semi-circular seed feeder which has a semi circular
delivery scoop along the bottom and a bar for the birds to perch on. We
faound that the birds were scattering the seeds looking for what they
wanted, so I made a plywood tray some 12" square with a notch cut out for
the 4 x 4 post and mounted it about 8" below to scoop to catch the seeds.
This worked fine because some birds could be on the perch whilst others were
on the tray. BUT pigeons could stand on the tray, the perch is too close and
too small for them to use, and the scoop was at beak level and they pretty
soon saw off all the smaller birds AND the seed.

The wire netting is of the 2 inch twisted wire 'cheapo' stuff, hooked round
the tray and standing up to above the seed delivery tray and standing free.
If a pigeon tries to land on this it is too unstable and it clears off. One
side of the tray is in the bushes so there is no wire netting there. The
birds come in through from the bushes AND land on the edge of the tray and
walk through the mesh. There is a Mum in there at the moment with a young
one feeding it. Mum came via the bushes, young 'un went in through the wire.

At present there are birds on the tray, on the peanut nets and on the path
getting the bits which are dropped. They can go on the path and ground for
obvious reasons.

Hope all that makes sense.

Mike