Can anyone help,
I have seen today my first Red Bramley Apple.

I would like to graft the Bramley to some apple pip stock.

I have done this successfully with other types of apple

However where to find pruning's of the Red Bramley.

I live in SW Cornwall all help gratefully received

......................Leslie

"Leslie" wrote in message
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Can anyone help,
I have seen today my first Red Bramley Apple.

I would like to graft the Bramley to some apple pip stock.

I have done this successfully with other types of apple

However where to find pruning's of the Red Bramley.

I live in SW Cornwall all help gratefully received

......................Leslie
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There is/was a sport of Bramley that had a few more red streaks than
normal. I have not seen it stocked.
It has been a habit, for ever, to call any cooker a Bramley, and many
are misnamed.
From where to get a scion I can not help~~I have looked.
Grafting is undertaken in the spring and with scions removed from their
parents many weeks previously and kept innactive~~ salad tray, in the
fridge, is suitable.
Grafting on to a seedling is asking for trouble. It can take very many
years before fruiting and then will be the size of an orchard tree.
The best, is to select a known rootstock, and even then I would not
advise Bramley. Bramley is an historic apple and imo that is where it
belongs.
Best Wishes Brian.

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from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words:

The best, is to select a known rootstock, and even then I would not
advise Bramley. Bramley is an historic apple and imo that is where it
belongs.

Bramley may well be historic - for rather limited values of history -
but it is still one of the most versatile apples around, and probably
the best cooker there has ever been.

IMO, of course.

--
Rusty
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes
The message
from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words:

The best, is to select a known rootstock, and even then I would not
advise Bramley. Bramley is an historic apple and imo that is where it
belongs.

Bramley may well be historic - for rather limited values of history -
but it is still one of the most versatile apples around, and probably
the best cooker there has ever been.

Brian - what do you see as the disadvantages of Bramley? What would you
recommend instead?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes
The message
from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these
words:

The best, is to select a known rootstock, and even then I would not
advise Bramley. Bramley is an historic apple and imo that is where it
belongs.

Bramley may well be historic - for rather limited values of history -
but it is still one of the most versatile apples around, and probably
the best cooker there has ever been.

Brian - what do you see as the disadvantages of Bramley? What would you
recommend instead?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bramley needs a professional, specialist, grower to do well. It's
triploid and partially tip bearing. In Cornwall, as requested, it's very
disease prone. It also totally disregards the rootstock and quickly becomes
unmanageable. It's been around since 1810 and so many others are more
suitable for gardens.
Ida Red keeps well into May. Lane's Prince Albert is foolproof and
Howgate Wonder a splendid cooker.
Many trees called Bramley are not, as it has become a habit to call all
keeping cookers as such.
Brogdale keeps over 4000 vars. and does advise related to needs and
regions.
Best Wishes Brian.

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from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words:

Bramley needs a professional, specialist, grower to do well.

Piffle! In the gardenof the house where i grew up we had two Bramley
trees and they got virtually no attention until it was time to pick
them. The crop was usually in the hundredweight region.

The parents moved to Norfolk, and there was a bramley tree in the garden
which got similar treatment, and the crop was heavy and reliable.

I have only known one Bramley tree to crop poorly, and that was because
it was barked by a pony.

It's
triploid and partially tip bearing. In Cornwall, as requested, it's very
disease prone. It also totally disregards the rootstock and quickly becomes
unmanageable.

They get big if you let them, but they're usually very easy to climb.
There's one in the village which requires a ladder to begin with, but
once up there...

It's been around since 1810 and so many others are more
suitable for gardens.

B***** what's suitable for gardens - it's what goes into apple pie that
matters. Or apple crumble. Or stewed apple. Or apple sauce. There's only
one other apple I know which can rival it and that's a codling.

I do intend getting a Charles Ross this winter - that's a fine apple
which is a good eater and a fairly good cooker, and keeps well.

--
Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Jaques
d'Alltrades writes
The message
from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these
words:

The best, is to select a known rootstock, and even then I would not
advise Bramley. Bramley is an historic apple and imo that is where it
belongs.

Bramley may well be historic - for rather limited values of history -
but it is still one of the most versatile apples around, and probably
the best cooker there has ever been.

Brian - what do you see as the disadvantages of Bramley? What would you
recommend instead?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most surprisingly the MM106 rootstock is itself an exceptionally good
keeping cooker. Just left alone and not grafted etc.
Best Wishes Brian.

Brian wrote:
[...]
Most surprisingly the MM106 rootstock is itself an
exceptionally
good keeping cooker. Just left alone and not grafted etc.
Best Wishes Brian.

That's very interesting. Other details? (x-ploid, size of crop,
bearing habits, etc)

--
Mike.

"Leslie" wrote
Can anyone help,
I have seen today my first Red Bramley Apple.

I would like to graft the Bramley to some apple pip stock.

I have done this successfully with other types of apple

However where to find pruning's of the Red Bramley.

I live in SW Cornwall all help gratefully received

Why graft it onto a stock grown from a pip, why not just grow it as a
cutting?
Normal fruit trees are grafted onto dwarfing rootstock, your will grow into
a huge tree.
For a "red" Bramley tree try Brogdale.
Or get another cooker like Arthur Turner with wonderful flowers too.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

Hello you lot :-)

I have great fun grafting apple trees and growing apples from seed.
I also much like grafting up family trees, my biggest problem being that
down here in Cornwall I suffer much wind and blight type damage.

And believe it or not the best stock root that I use comes from pips "but"
the tree can be big ,or small these wither and die.

These Red Bramleys were red to crimson all over and of a huge size I must
have one.

Thanks foe all the posts.
....................Leslie



"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Leslie" wrote
Can anyone help,
I have seen today my first Red Bramley Apple.

I would like to graft the Bramley to some apple pip stock.

I have done this successfully with other types of apple

However where to find pruning's of the Red Bramley.

I live in SW Cornwall all help gratefully received

Why graft it onto a stock grown from a pip, why not just grow it as a
cutting?
Normal fruit trees are grafted onto dwarfing rootstock, your will grow
into a huge tree.
For a "red" Bramley tree try Brogdale.
Or get another cooker like Arthur Turner with wonderful flowers too.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London