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15-11-2005, 10:30 PM
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Removing Pampas Grass
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
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15-11-2005, 10:33 PM
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Tumbleweed wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" An enquiring mind wanted to know that, Tumble! -- Mike. |
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15-11-2005, 10:42 PM
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Mike Lyle wrote: Actually, the far side of a pond looks great adorned with a sweep of pampas grass. I think being on its own is what makes it look odd, as it's so obviously out of keeping with British plants: putting several together gives it moral support. How about rheum palmatum with pampas grass behind, but close enough to be reflected, and clumps of nice conspicuous marginals in front? This sounds very much like my cousin's house and her parents too and the house where I grew up. We have ponds (and swimming pools) which is an absolute necessity in Aquitaine, with pampas, festuca, carex to soften the hedges, orchids and wild flowers in the fields around it, and woods and lots of trees because you need TREES there, and there's lots anyway. It gets so hot and so dry (and I don't like it that much). But all the wild life we get is grass snakes (sorry Jenny), deers, red squirrels (I didn't know grey ones existed until I came to England) and wild pigs, but many dragon flies, lots and lots of birds and once at my grand mother's house I saw a minute huming bird. However, grape vines is a must, nut trees must already be there somewhere. As I said a pond is a necessity. If you don't have water near by like a river, a swimming pool or a pond/lake you will find it very hard living there. |
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15-11-2005, 11:02 PM
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On 15/11/05 22:33, in article , "Mike Lyle"
wrote: Tumbleweed wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" An enquiring mind wanted to know that, Tumble! Ah! I would never have got there, so thank you! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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16-11-2005, 07:34 AM
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Removing Pampas Grass
On 15/11/05 23:28, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote: The message k from Sacha contains these words: I give up. EMTWK? I suppose the plumes of the Pampas might trap insects on which birds could feed? Birds love the seeds, IME. It's wonderful to watch dozens of plumes swaying and waving, bowed down under the weight of birds pecking the seeds. Ah then, I might allow Jenny to plant it. ;-)) Lots of it, of course! My youngest daughter has two in her new-to-her garden and wants rid of them. We think the chap that does garden maintenance for all of us will be able to do it but it will involve taking down a small wall to do it. I've pointed out that the back garden one shields her from the neighbour's garden but she still wants it out so that she can plant something she truly loves. I can't imagine why I dislike them so much but they always look forlornly bedraggled and dusty, somehow and especially so when one is planted in the middle of a lawn. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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#22
16-11-2005, 08:21 AM
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"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... On 15/11/05 22:30, in article , "Tumbleweed" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" Not for long. I got - Did you mean: emtek ...etc You typed it wrong Sacha, that what you get if you search for your typo! Look at the original, and your repeat of it :-) -- Tumbleweed email replies not necessary but to contact use; tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com |
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16-11-2005, 08:50 AM
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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:53:17 -0000, "Tumbleweed" wrote: "adm" wrote in message om... I have a largeish (c.1.5m wide at base, 3m high) Pampas grass in my lawn that I would like to remove. I've been told to burn it and then dig out the root to get rid of the thing completely - and also that digging out the root is a real pain as it's huge. Unfortunately, I can't burn it as it's too close to my apple trees, hedge, smoke tree etc.... So - can I just chop the bugger down and then dig the root out ? Is there any other way to kill the thing ? If so, when is the best time of year to do this, or doesn't it matter ? Thats what my neighbour did a few months ago. It was about the same size as yours. Took him two days :-) I did two in my garden a couple of years ago. Again, similar size, about 4 to 5 ft through. First, get the right tools, which include a stout pair of gardening gloves as the foliage has sharp edges and will cut your hands. A grub-axe is ideal (a cross between a heavy mattock and a pick-axe, but also with an axe blade on one side); a sharp spade might work but probably wouldn't be heavy enough. Cut down the top growth as low as possible with a sharp pair of shears, and trench around the root mound about 6 inches deep. They're shallow rooted, so you don't need to go much deeper. Start to hack out small bits from the outer edge on the mound, cutting both down and under with the grub axe or the spade. Don't try and take out too big a chunk at any one time. Gradually work around the clump, removing chunks as you go, until it's all gone. Took me about an hour for each, although it was bloody hard work and I was knackered for a couple of days after. Thanks all ! Grub axe, billhook and hard labour it is..... |
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16-11-2005, 09:09 AM
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "JennyC" contains these words: I intend to grow grasses, flax, vibernums, lots of stuff with grey leaves etc ...... sort of wild and floppy. All the things I can't grow here. Good for you. I agree with Sacha. a single specimen marroned in a lawn looks daft. But planted boldly in the right setting, a big drift of pampas grasses can look stunning all year round. I have it in the bog garden with gunnera manicata and clumps of iris ensata. The pampas screens out the view of next door's garden. In autumn, great flocks of little birds swing on the flower stems eating the seeds. Janet My God Janet - we agree on something at last :~))))) Jenny |
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16-11-2005, 09:22 AM
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"Sacha" wrote "JennyC" wrote: "Sacha" wrote , "JennyC" wrote: I'm having a problem with someone called Leo wanting Pampas grass. ;-)) He likes zebras too :~)) another area altogether perhaps you could give him some Leonotis leonurus! Had to google for that - looks good, except it likes loamy soil........ Any grapes up pergolas etc? It sounds absolutely lovely and I do so envy you living in that climate. Lucky, lucky you! Not actually bought the place yet.......need to sell here first! Grapes are in the plan, as are passionflowers and lots of other exotic climbers....... Not sure whether it will be feasible to dig a pond in the field. I think it's limestone with a shallow covering of soil......we are going down in January to check it out and bring back soil samples. My answer to almost everything is "dig a pond". I'm being facetious but not entirely. I have no idea myself but do you know what wildlife you would attract IF you had a pond in that region? Sacha No really looked into that. The property is on top of a hill overlooking the Vezere valley. Lots of wildlife down by the river :~)) I too LOVE ponds, so will be investigating if it's possible to make one..... Jenny |
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16-11-2005, 09:32 AM
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Removing Pampas Grass
"Tumbleweed" wrote in message ... "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" Tumbleweed Duly googled: Sacha - you will love this site :~) http://www.nps.gov/redw/pampas.htm Also: "It has no natural enemies and is not grazed by livestock or wildlife" and "The extremely sharp leaves act as barriers to animal movement; they have been known to cut the hide of deer trying to walk through them" I hadn't actually realised how sharp the leaves are........maybe I will have a rethink and show this thread to Leo :~)) Jenny |
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16-11-2005, 09:37 AM
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Removing Pampas Grass
"La puce" wrote in message oups.com... Mike Lyle wrote: Actually, the far side of a pond looks great adorned with a sweep of pampas grass. I think being on its own is what makes it look odd, as it's so obviously out of keeping with British plants: putting several together gives it moral support. How about rheum palmatum with pampas grass behind, but close enough to be reflected, and clumps of nice conspicuous marginals in front? This sounds very much like my cousin's house and her parents too and the house where I grew up. We have ponds (and swimming pools) which is an absolute necessity in Aquitaine, with pampas, festuca, carex to soften the hedges, orchids and wild flowers in the fields around it, and woods and lots of trees because you need TREES there, and there's lots anyway. It gets so hot and so dry (and I don't like it that much). But all the wild life we get is grass snakes (sorry Jenny), Don't mind snakes deers, Will ind them if they eat my veggies red squirrels (I didn't know grey ones existed until I came to England) and wild pigs, but many dragon flies, lots and lots of birds and once at my grand mother's house I saw a minute huming bird. However, grape vines is a must, nut trees must already be there somewhere. As I said a pond is a necessity. If you don't have water near by like a river, a swimming pool or a pond/lake you will find it very hard living there. River about 200 yrds away....... Friends pool about the same distance...... House has a nice cool tower for siesta's in the heat of the day ...........:~) Jenny |
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16-11-2005, 09:54 AM
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Removing Pampas Grass
Sacha wrote:
Ah then, I might allow Jenny to plant it. ;-)) Lots of it, of course! My youngest daughter has two in her new-to-her garden and wants rid of them. We think the chap that does garden maintenance for all of us will be able to do it but it will involve taking down a small wall to do it. I've pointed out that the back garden one shields her from the neighbour's garden but she still wants it out so that she can plant something she truly loves. I can't imagine why I dislike them so much but they always look forlornly bedraggled and dusty, somehow and especially so when one is planted in the middle of a lawn. I think I know exactly why you dislike it so much. Because people have no taste and plant it in such inappropriate positions. With some plants bad taste isn't too obvious, but pampas grass shouts it out with an oversized exclamation mark! There's a wonderful example of it just a couple of doors away from me. I'm in central(ish) London and the front gardens here are postage stamp size - someone had the great idea of planting pampas grass in their front garden which can't be more than about 8' x 6' right in front of their window. Mind you, they have almost been trumped by their neighbours who have planted a hedge of what looks suspiciously like our old friend X Cupressocyparis leylandii around a plot of similar size. Using leylandii virtually as ground cover?! sigh |
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16-11-2005, 10:03 AM
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On 16/11/05 8:21, in article , "Tumbleweed"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... On 15/11/05 22:30, in article , "Tumbleweed" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... And they can certainly get very wild. But actually, it's a good question: does anybody know the answer? EMWTK. I don't think it offers any food for the beasties, but it must provide shelter. I give up. EMTWK? "google is your friend" Not for long. I got - Did you mean: emtek ...etc You typed it wrong Sacha, that what you get if you search for your typo! Look at the original, and your repeat of it :-) LOL. That's what I get if I type with my eyes half shut with sleep. Sorry! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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16-11-2005, 10:05 AM
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On 16/11/05 9:22, in article , "JennyC"
wrote: "Sacha" wrote "JennyC" wrote: "Sacha" wrote , "JennyC" wrote: I'm having a problem with someone called Leo wanting Pampas grass. ;-)) He likes zebras too :~)) another area altogether perhaps you could give him some Leonotis leonurus! Had to google for that - looks good, except it likes loamy soil........ Any grapes up pergolas etc? It sounds absolutely lovely and I do so envy you living in that climate. Lucky, lucky you! Not actually bought the place yet.......need to sell here first! Grapes are in the plan, as are passionflowers and lots of other exotic climbers....... Let me know when and if we've got a cutting of Canon Hall grape I'll send you one as a garden warming present. It's a fabulous fruit and is the original 'Guernsey grape" that all the vineries there used to grow. Not sure whether it will be feasible to dig a pond in the field. I think it's limestone with a shallow covering of soil......we are going down in January to check it out and bring back soil samples. My answer to almost everything is "dig a pond". I'm being facetious but not entirely. I have no idea myself but do you know what wildlife you would attract IF you had a pond in that region? Sacha No really looked into that. The property is on top of a hill overlooking the Vezere valley. Lots of wildlife down by the river :~)) I too LOVE ponds, so will be investigating if it's possible to make one..... On top of a hill might mean waterfall down to a pond, perhaps? How lovely. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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