Very often people ask for advice on the use of certain plants in their
gardens but the rest of us don't know where they live. And if we do know,
we might have forgotten! I know this was suggested by someone several
years ago but I would suggest that attaching a brief description of your
general location to your sig.file helps urglers to help each other. David
Poole does that, Charlie Pridham does it and so do I and a few others so it
gives anyone reading our posts some notion of whether what we're saying is
of any relevance to their personal circumstances.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

How do you create a signature ?

In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.

However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

--
Chris Green

In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't. It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 16/2/06 16:28, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't. It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.

Ahem. Perhaps we could get into the niceties of the more arcane rules of
the Internet or the WWW or whatever it may be, later. Just for now, perhaps
explaining how sig files are created would help those interested in helping
urg to help them. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

In message , Nick Maclaren
wrote

was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed,

Only because M$ had so many bugs in their email/news software that took
them years to fix ... or have they

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--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't.

How?

It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

If your newsreader hasn't already removed it - and the reply which came
after it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.
^^^^^^

He was Mercadian?

Funny, you seem to be the only one in step - that is, in resisting it,
not in ignoring it.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't. It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

Why, what problems does it give them?

--
Chris Green

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.



Until you meet some **** with a sig longer than 100 lines!


Richard.

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --
massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
it." Gene Spafford (1992)

On 16/2/06 18:24, in article
, "Richard Brooks"
wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.



Until you meet some **** with a sig longer than 100 lines!

Very, very deep sigh. URG requests a sig file of no more than 4 lines.
Okay? Everyone pontificating here about how to create a sig file will
SURELY KNOW that, won't they? Because they will have read about it before
telling the rest of us about trailing signatures or hanging baskets. Yes?

Now that all those who are seriously, seriously, seriously
computer-literate-maniacs-who-could-clear-a-pub-in-10-minutes are going to
argue about bloody lines and dashes and names and when and where and how and
if, I really wish I hadn't started this. I really do. I thought it would
*help* those new to the group asking questions pertaining to their own
gardens. Please allow me to point out to those of you having a lovely time
arguing about the hows and wheres, that this was my original intention.
Instead, it's degenerated into a ridiculous squabble about HOW TO USE YOUR
LUMP OF PLASTICINE. But as this is a newsgroup and you're all free to play
in the kitty litter to your heart's content, I give up; God forbid common
sense should prevail. Please, do go on discussing your feathering dashes
and spaces - so much more important than ease of use of urg for its
contributors, after all. Bum. And humph. And a couple of mutters and
grumbles, too.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

Sacha wrote:
On 16/2/06 18:24, in article
, "Richard Brooks"
wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.

Until you meet some **** with a sig longer than 100 lines!

Very, very deep sigh. URG requests a sig file of no more than 4 lines.
Okay? Everyone pontificating here about how to create a sig file will
SURELY KNOW that, won't they? Because they will have read about it before
telling the rest of us about trailing signatures or hanging baskets. Yes?

[ARJed into RTFUG]

NO! ****ING NO! Now stand in the corner of the room, stupid child! How
many times have you seen the Usenet Guidelines on a cover disk where
most people seem to get their AOL/Wanadoo kicks ? It's only hinted at
when joining up and now we get Googlers asking if they can subscribe or
unsubscribe.

Assume nothing and expect anything.


Richard.

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --
massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a
source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect
it." Gene Spafford (1992)

Sacha writes
Now that all those who are seriously, seriously, seriously
computer-literate-maniacs-who-could-clear-a-pub-in-10-minutes are going
to argue about bloody lines and dashes and names and when and where and
how and if, I really wish I hadn't started this. I really do. I
thought it would *help* those new to the group asking questions
pertaining to their own gardens. Please allow me to point out to those
of you having a lovely time arguing about the hows and wheres, that
this was my original intention. Instead, it's degenerated into a
ridiculous squabble about HOW TO USE YOUR LUMP OF PLASTICINE. But as
this is a newsgroup and you're all free to play in the kitty litter to
your heart's content, I give up; God forbid common sense should
prevail. Please, do go on discussing your feathering dashes and spaces
- so much more important than ease of use of urg for its contributors,
after all. Bum. And humph. And a couple of mutters and grumbles, too.

But Sacha! This is urg! It's a discussion group. The OP has no control
over where the discussion takes us, just as the person who asks advise
on cultivating leylandii has no control over the reams of 'prune them 1
ft below ground level' advice that he/she will get!
--
Kay

The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.


However, mail/news-handling software are written to use it, and it can
save time if you use the facility, or make it more difficult for others
if you don't use it, and like many here, don't snip the signature of the
preceding post(s).

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

On 16/2/06 16:01, in article
, "Gardening_Convert"
wrote:

How do you create a signature ?

Somewhere on your tool bar - even under Tools, possibly - there will be
something that says Signatures. Click on that, click on new, give it a
title and type into the box what you want your sig. to say. Save it and
then, when you type your msg. you just click on "Signatures" at the top of
the msg. window you're typing in and on the sig. you want to use. There
must be other and possibly easier ways but that does it for me! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)