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On 13/3/06 22:22, in article , "Rupert"
wrote: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage Yes. 2246 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) |
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Yes. 2246
and me - 22.50 :) -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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"Sacha" wrote in message id... On 13/3/06 22:22, in article , "Rupert" wrote: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage Yes. 2246 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) Thanks--Just for a few minutes I felt very alone. Over and out at 22.56 |
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"Sacha" wrote On 13/3/06 22:22, in article , "Rupert" wrote: Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage Yes. 2246 AOL 23.04 -- Sue |
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Yes. My system wiped of all the postings in urg, not only the rogue
ones. Twice that has happened. Still, it's better than suffering the rubbish. -- June Hughes |
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In message , Janet Baraclough
writes The message from "Rupert" contains these words: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage What garbage? Meanwhile, to explain any new influx of garbage you might want to look at a thread on demon.local (available on google/groups dated January 9th and headed "We demand the truth" Janet And your point about gardening is? -- June Hughes |
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"Rupert" wrote in message ... "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage Don't tell me the schools are out again already?? His mummy won't be best pleased when she sees what he has been up to on her computer |
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In message , Ophelia
writes "Rupert" wrote in message ... "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage Don't tell me the schools are out again already?? His mummy won't be best pleased when she sees what he has been up to on her computer No, O. I don't think so. I came out with a blank screen after my machine decided to delete everything from urg. -- June Hughes |
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from June Hughes contains these words: Yes. My system wiped of all the postings in urg, not only the rogue ones. Twice that has happened. Still, it's better than suffering the rubbish. Didn't see any. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from June Hughes contains these words: In message , Janet Baraclough writes The message from "Rupert" contains these words: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage What garbage? Meanwhile, to explain any new influx of garbage you might want to look at a thread on demon.local (available on google/groups dated January 9th and headed "We demand the truth" Janet And your point about gardening is? Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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In message , Rusty Hinge
2 writes The message from June Hughes contains these words: In message , Janet Baraclough writes The message from "Rupert" contains these words: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage What garbage? Meanwhile, to explain any new influx of garbage you might want to look at a thread on demon.local (available on google/groups dated January 9th and headed "We demand the truth" Janet And your point about gardening is? Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. After a quick scan, it looked to me as though someone there was telling La Puce off for replying to trolls. Perhaps I missed the bit where they may or may not have talked about flooding this ng. How on earth would anyone find that particular thread without doing a Google Groups search for La Puce? That is a very sad activity to indulge in. Could it be that they are trying to lay the blame for the flooding on her? I am certainly glad I only post to two groups or people may be spying on me too. Come to think of it, they probably already have. -- June Hughes |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:27:12 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) : On 14/3/06 10:56 am, in article , "Rusty Hinge 2" wrote: The message from June Hughes contains these words: In message , Janet Baraclough writes The message from "Rupert" contains these words: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage What garbage? Meanwhile, to explain any new influx of garbage you might want to look at a thread on demon.local (available on google/groups dated January 9th and headed "We demand the truth" Janet And your point about gardening is? Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. However, in reading that particular thread I was amused to see the first of the sponsored links on the right: Trolls Great deals on Trolls Shop on eBay and Save! www.eBay.com :-) -- Sally in Shropshire, UK bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
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June Hughes wrote: After a quick scan, it looked to me as though someone there was telling La Puce off for replying to trolls. Perhaps I missed the bit where they may or may not have talked about flooding this ng. How on earth would anyone find that particular thread without doing a Google Groups search for La Puce? That is a very sad activity to indulge in. Could it be that they are trying to lay the blame for the flooding on her? I am certainly glad I only post to two groups or people may be spying on me too. Come to think of it, they probably already have. Gawd I had enough of this .... June, read on and let it be done with once and for all. In the early 1990s I joined demon.local and posted there for years and years. We had a few self appointed sig.bunnies - our rules, beside beleiving in the camel that doesn't exist was to have a compliant sig. of 4 lines or less. Those with a non compliant sig were picked upon and thrown out. This was and still is a very robust group. I made many friends and we have met many times and I am still in touch with many. A couple of years ago I made a great friend, called ah, who lives in Virginia. He is a landscape designer and creates the most amazing gardens. At first everyone replied to him, ask Andyw here - he's been in demon with me since the beginning. There was no problems until we started getting flooded by 3 individuals and we had our fair share of weirdos. Last summer ah got involved with some trolls, to which three characters from demon were trying to battle with. I say 'trying' because there's a fine line between saying to a troll 'stop posting' and starting a conversation as a result of the post. Sadly, all the sig. bunnies kept nagging the trolls - it was fun for them but all they did is create even more flooding. The trick is not to reply. Here, we can see Janet constantly replying which is a really bad idea indeed. I left it to the boys ... I don't really like confrontation - that is unless you try to hurt me and then I'll ripost, I will. However, ah and I became close and exchanged presents and I posted to him and him to me. We are planning a trip there next April. I went away in June from the group who by then became totally flooded and I got fed up with the racial abuse, the homophobia etc. I felt demon had changed a lot and I didn't like it anymore. At the end of August I dealt with 2 death of close friends as well as a demon local member. I posted to the group and convinced ah to tell one troll to pipe it down as he was becoming abusive. I then started replying to Tony because he kept telling me to stop posting to ah. I kept refusing. I was told in September to stop posting to ah by Tony. a) ah had and always had a compliant sig., b) he became a friend and not only to me and c) he is really funny, intelligent etc. So I refused. Rules are rules. In the meantime two characters kept posting to him, including Pedt actually. I suggested the unfairness of it all - but it didn't go down well. Ah was then replying to a lot of trolls, cascading etc. I kept saying that this wasn't my business and my business was to reply to ah when he addressed me. I didn't like him for this, but for the posts we exchanged which were about mostly gardening, dry wall building, food, plants and dogs etc. In the meantime, perhaps 5 of the bunnies started replying to a guy who I knew was a troll. I pointed this out but they said he wasn't. If you pip into demon local now, you will see that the troll has now completely taken over with a bunch of kids from the States. I've managed to keep in touch as we are meeting next month in memory of our lost friend where his widow will scater his ashes in Cumbria. I hope I'll be able to get there. This has never ever been anything to do with me. I don't take part in cascading, I don't take part in responding to trolls because I know how they work etc. As a proof, look in this forum and show me somebody where and when I have cascading, when I have replied to troll, when I have been abusive without reason etc. I'm nice, I play nice and get out when I need to get out. I obey the rules and enjoy the company. When we lost a friend who died of leukemia and a troll started impersonnating him, I started posting again because Jennie, his widow couldn't cope. It was heart breaking to see her having to read all the garbage. We tried to help her sorting herself out with the technicality of her emails etc. Then Tony (Rachel's husband from the clematis nursery) told me that I had written hundreds of emails to ah (who in turn was posting to the chap impersonnating our lost friend). I said I had been very busy for the most part of the summer last year and anyway had left the country and therefore couldn't have written all those alledge emails. Then the game of 'telling the truth' poped out. It was a game. By end of December of course I had written lots of email .... but when Tony first speculated is was only a handful. The game also is that when I come on, demon wakes up and that happened many time before. You get comment like 'the good old days are back' 'I'll put the kettle on' etc. We've always had huge rows in demon - that's the group. So, I would suggest that before any further crap comes up regarding my 14 years exchange with demon local, Janet and her groupies stop and read from perhaps the beginning. If you wish I can also forward emails from many demon local members telling me the unfairness of the battle and more to the point to 'keep posting'. The situation of demon local is due to Neil Barker, Craig Oldfield and Chris Hill who have constantly ignated trolls, abusing them, stalking them, critisised them etc. They have done this because the group shrank down, because they refused new comers and called anyone a troll, very much as Janet is doing. What they didn't realised is that it will totally sink the group. Which it has. Janet's vendetta towards me has to stop. And stop right now. La Puce. |
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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. Rusty - not you. Don't tell me you think that Janet is right with her vendetta. Please tell me it is not so. |
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In message .com, La
Puce writes snip Gawd I had enough of this .... June, read on and let it be done with once and for all. snip Janet's vendetta towards me has to stop. And stop right now. La Puce. That is a very long post indeed but it is my lunchbreak and I have read it from start to finish. I think in the circumstances we are back to where we came in a few weeks ago. The answer must be just to ignore them and they will get fed-up. I shall try to revert to doing just that. -- June Hughes |
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On 14/3/06 11:47 am, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote: In message , Rusty Hinge 2 writes The message from June Hughes contains these words: In message , Janet Baraclough writes The message from "Rupert" contains these words: "Rupert" wrote in message ... Just me trying to do battle with all the garbage What garbage? Meanwhile, to explain any new influx of garbage you might want to look at a thread on demon.local (available on google/groups dated January 9th and headed "We demand the truth" Janet And your point about gardening is? Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. After a quick scan, it looked to me as though someone there was telling La Puce off for replying to trolls. Perhaps I missed the bit where they may or may not have talked about flooding this ng. How on earth would anyone find that particular thread without doing a Google Groups search for La Puce? That is a very sad activity to indulge in. It's a perfectly normal thing to do if anyone is concerned about trouble being brought to a newsgroup and or individuals on a group. Puce was in trouble at demon.local for making scores of posts in reply to trolls. If you look there now, some of them are still posting there and pretty horribly, too. Puce is not. Trolls may well have followed her in here and certainly, the troll who posted here yesterday about this group becoming moderated, also posted the same thing to rec.ponds, inviting people there to come here. Rec.ponds is infested with trolls, as is demon.local. These people tend to go round in circles, upsetting as many people and groups as they can. It is at least possible that some of them have followed Puce here and we know that a troll leaped onto her posts at misc.rural and followed her into urg. Could it be that they are trying to lay the blame for the flooding on her? Why did that spring to your mind? I am certainly glad I only post to two groups or people may be spying on me too. Come to think of it, they probably already have. Splutter........! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) |
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Sacha wrote: It is at least possible that some of them have followed Puce here and we know that a troll leaped onto her posts at misc.rural and followed her into urg. No it's not. I haven't posted to demon in month, beside one post in January regarding the Cumbria walk. Sheldon from misc.rural came in here because Janet crossposted to you and all what I had written on misc.rural. That's why you saw it. Sheldon is not a troll. You don't understand the difference between your own hatred to save a virtual friendship you have on urg and an actual troll. Sheldon is an individual who has been abused by Janet and took the opportunity to get even during my banters with Janet on misc.rural. So stop it now Sacha and do what you do best which is discuss horticulture and busy yourself with that and that alone. |
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On 14/3/06 1:28 pm, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: Sacha wrote: It is at least possible that some of them have followed Puce here and we know that a troll leaped onto her posts at misc.rural and followed her into urg. No it's not. I haven't posted to demon in month, beside one post in January regarding the Cumbria walk. Sheldon from misc.rural came in here because Janet crossposted to you and all what I had written on misc.rural. That's why you saw it. Sheldon is not a troll. You don't understand the difference between your own hatred to save a virtual friendship you have on urg and an actual troll. Sheldon is an individual who has been abused by Janet and took the opportunity to get even during my banters with Janet on misc.rural. So stop it now Sacha and do what you do best which is discuss horticulture and busy yourself with that and that alone. I think the person who doesn't know the difference between genuine posters and trolling is yourself. Sheldon's language and manner of posting and his deliberate decision to start cross-posting to urg, speak for themselves. You cosied up to Sheldon. If those are the people you choose to make friends with, it's no wonder you got into so much trouble at demon.local People whose idea of fun is to follow people into new groups and make trouble there are trolls. The trolls you encouraged at demon.local may well have followed you here to make trouble, too. And please stop telling me what to do. You wouldn't like one of your new best friends to think you're one of the "owners" of this group, surely? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) |
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Sacha wrote: I think the person who doesn't know the difference between genuine posters and trolling is yourself. Sheldon's language and manner of posting and his deliberate decision to start cross-posting to urg, speak for themselves. Language has nothing to do with trolling. Anger is anger Sacha. Sheldon was angry. I was angry. Many are angry of seeing so many posts by Janet which are not called for. Look at the last one to Jenny. To poor Jenny who is as charming and gentle as anything. Who is fun and just so adorable. What is the matter with you two?!?!?!? Can you just leave it now? You cosied up to Sheldon. If those are the people you choose to make friends with, it's no wonder you got into so much trouble at demon.local I had no problem with demon local. I have many friends on demon local. You are again trying to bring me down with false accusation. I haven't EVER posted to Sheldon. Not one single post. So post your proof before you write your nonsense. Stop it Sacha. People whose idea of fun is to follow people into new groups and make trouble there are trolls. The trolls you encouraged at demon.local may well have followed you here to make trouble, too. NO they haven't. I have never posted to trolls. I have posted to ah who is not a troll but an individual who posted to troll. That is the difference. And please stop telling me what to do. You too. Stop telling me how to run my business, who to write to, what to say and what to like, what to think and to whom to write or not. You wouldn't like one of your new best friends to think you're one of the "owners" of this group, surely? Now you are being stoopid. Why don't you say to Janet to stop being nasty to June, Jenny, Martin, Ophellia, Sheldon, myself?!? Why do you always defend her nasty behaviour? You're a strange woman indeed for wanting so much trouble. Just stop it or I'll also dig out nasties about you. Beleive me I will. So let me be. |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:28:25 +0000, La Puce wrote
(in article .com): Sacha wrote: It is at least possible that some of them have followed Puce here and we know that a troll leaped onto her posts at misc.rural and followed her into urg. No it's not. I haven't posted to demon in month, beside one post in January regarding the Cumbria walk. Sheldon from misc.rural came in here because Janet crossposted to you and all what I had written on misc.rural. That's why you saw it. I really hate to get into this but I can't let this one go. Google Groups - search for demon.local. Find posting by La Puce - view profile - post activity - gives these results for the last few months (sorry it won't line up): Post Activity Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2005 1 31 1 3 34 92 11 47 7 9 6 2006 70 3 So 70 postings in January this year. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
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from Sacha contains these words: Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. The trick is to know trolls when you see them and then ignore them. Fair's fair, La Puce may have more difficulty recognising a troll for what it is than we do. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from June Hughes contains these words: /snip/ I am certainly glad I only post to two groups or people may be spying on me too. Come to think of it, they probably already have. YAMI5MIKE&ICM £5 -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from "La Puce" contains these words: /snip/ I kept saying that this wasn't my business and my business was to reply to ah when he addressed me. I didn't like him for this, but for the posts we exchanged which were about mostly gardening, dry wall building, food, plants and dogs etc. In the meantime, perhaps 5 of the bunnies started replying to a guy who I knew was a troll. I pointed this out but they said he wasn't. If you pip into demon local now, you will see that the troll has now completely taken over with a bunch of kids from the States. This is really funny - Zetnet closed its own newsgroups to outside ISPs because of continual trolling and foul language perpetrated almost entirely by Demon customers... -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Sally Thompson wrote: I really hate to get into this but I can't let this one go. No you don't hate it, you actually LOVE the torment, the grumpiness, the trouble. You seem to THRIVE on gossip Sally Thompson!!!! Google Groups - search for demon.local. Find posting by La Puce - view profile - post activity - gives these results for the last few months (sorry it won't line up): Post Activity Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2005 1 31 1 3 34 92 11 47 7 9 6 2006 70 3 So 70 postings in January this year. Yes in 2005. My friend died in September and I posted none this year Sally. NONE. So learn to read and learn to keep your nose in people's business. |
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from "La Puce" contains these words: Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. Rusty - not you. Don't tell me you think that Janet is right with her vendetta. Please tell me it is not so. I don't think vendettas are right, full stop. If people rub each-other up the wrong way, they should take good care to say nothing which invites a response. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: I don't think vendettas are right, full stop. If people rub each-other up the wrong way, they should take good care to say nothing which invites a response. Fine. Great. Phew ... ! Right, I tried that. The woman is even going at Jenny now, before that it was June and before that me, Martin etc... But just out of curiousity - how can you stay still in front of unfairness. How can you just not do anything in front of the obvious. My blood boil !! I get furious at injustice. I really do. |
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In message , Rusty Hinge
2 writes The message from June Hughes contains these words: /snip/ I am certainly glad I only post to two groups or people may be spying on me too. Come to think of it, they probably already have. YAMI5MIKE&ICM £5 YALL&ICM£5BACK -- June Hughes |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:43:06 +0000, La Puce wrote
(in article .com): Sally Thompson wrote: I really hate to get into this but I can't let this one go. No you don't hate it, you actually LOVE the torment, the grumpiness, the trouble. You seem to THRIVE on gossip Sally Thompson!!!! An interesting conclusion. Google Groups - search for demon.local. Find posting by La Puce - view profile - post activity - gives these results for the last few months (sorry it won't line up): Post Activity Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2005 1 31 1 3 34 92 11 47 7 9 6 2006 70 3 So 70 postings in January this year. Yes in 2005. My friend died in September and I posted none this year Sally. NONE. So learn to read and learn to keep your nose in people's business. Then you had better take it up with Google Groups. This is what they report for your postings to demon.local. The figures for postings to urg are quite different - do the search for yourself if you think they are misrepresenting you. Why should I make it up? The only time I have crossed swords with you is over your extremely rude posting in French, which I took exception to. -- Sally in Shropshire, UK bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
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Sally Thompson wrote: An interesting conclusion. Well off course Sally! What do you expect me to say?! Well done for stiring even further? Then you had better take it up with Google Groups. Ok. I actually emailed a friend (feels like on Millionaires game or something). I looked at my profile and you are RIGHT. OK? I thought I posted in December. But it was indeed in January. So sorry Sally. You are right - but your numbers didn't lined up. However, the posts Tony said I wrote from September till October were wrong. The 'game' carried on till December and obvioulsy by then the number had swollen. So he wasn't right. In any case I'm seeing him soon ... That's the funny thing of it all really. I apologise - but please if you do contribute, contribute on positive stuff not only on the negative stuff, especially when it's about me. The only time I have crossed swords with you is over your extremely rude posting in French, which I took exception to. Yes. And you got it wrong. I called Janet une conne which means an idiot. She however came up with something else which I have never EVER written because it is far too rude and I have never written it, here, nor on demon nor anywhere in my life. Furthermore, Janet is capable to manipulate anyone, even you in thinking her French is better than mine, that my business is better understood and ran by herself ... the woman has an answer to everything, always. She knows it all!! Isn't she! She is vicious and manipulative, rude and obnoctious but then you know it too. I have made a promise to someone in here that I will never EVER write to her nor Sacha. If they lie, I'll post to you if I think they lie. There. Can't say fairer than that. And please don't stir further please. It's ridiculous. |
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On 14/3/06 3:07 pm, in article
, "La Puce" wrote: Rusty did not write the para below, Puce. I did. Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. It's not true Rusty. Ah is a nice chap. He however talked to young kids because demon became so abusive with racial abuse etc. the trolls had a field trip. Ah is charming and I would put him opposite you at dinner, I would. He's lovely. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon ) |
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from "La Puce" contains these words: Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. It's not true Rusty. Ah is a nice chap. He however talked to young kids because demon became so abusive with racial abuse etc. the trolls had a field trip. Ah is charming and I would put him opposite you at dinner, I would. He's lovely. /snip/ I didn't write that. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from "La Puce" contains these words: Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: I don't think vendettas are right, full stop. If people rub each-other up the wrong way, they should take good care to say nothing which invites a response. Fine. Great. Phew ... ! Right, I tried that. The woman is even going at Jenny now, before that it was June and before that me, Martin etc... But just out of curiousity - how can you stay still in front of unfairness. How can you just not do anything in front of the obvious. My blood boil !! I get furious at injustice. I really do. Life is not fair. And when people (no sides taken!) dig themselves into holes or entrenched positions on what they see as fair or right, it takes a great deal more strength of character to put differences aside than to continue sniping. *I* of course, am the epitome of fairness. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Rusty Hinge 2 wrote:
The message from Sacha contains these words: Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. The trick is to know trolls when you see them and then ignore them. The trick is to find who goes into rec.ponds from this group as that newsgroup was mentioned in the trolls despatches and whoever ****ed someone off in that group brought it here. [snipped] Richard. -- "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford (1992) |
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04:27:24 on Tue, 14 Mar 2006, La Puce wibbled June Hughes wrote: After a quick scan, it looked to me as though someone there was telling La Puce off for replying to trolls. Perhaps I missed the bit where they may or may not have talked about flooding this ng. As far as I can tell from my archives the trolls didn't. The regulars there /certainly/ didn't. HTH. I was told in September to stop posting to ah by Tony. a) ah had and always had a compliant sig., b) he became a friend and not only to me and c) he is really funny, intelligent etc. So I refused. Rules are rules. In the meantime two characters kept posting to him, including Pedt actually. I was intending just lurking to see if a handle could be got on the occasional flooder here but I am /not/ accepting that I kept posting to ah. Apologies to the rest of the newsgroup for posting once to refute it. http://tinyurl.com/gyr84 resolves to my own Google posting history in demon.local since 1st Jan 2003. There were /precisely/ three posts in response to ah, two documented on Google (both on page 2). Two posts are http://tinyurl.com/rdddm and http://tinyurl.com/mo8ao plus a missing one but which that latter references, just after your friend replied to nearly every post in a flood, similar to but smaller than those here, at the rate of over 10 a minute. I suggested the unfairness of it all - but it didn't go down well. Ah was then replying to a lot of trolls, cascading etc. I kept saying that this wasn't my business and my business was to reply to ah when he addressed me. [..] This has never ever been anything to do with me. I don't take part in cascading, I don't take part in responding to trolls because I know how they work etc. But you appreciate cascades as http://tinyurl.com/nfbrc proves. "...and a lovely cascade is being created..." and you have responded to trolls - your friend ah, for one, who claimed he crapped on a newsgroup better than other trolls http://tinyurl.com/r67fy and admitted that he replied to all of the flood posts - what I quoted in http://tinyurl.com/mo8ao. I see no reason to correspond further on the subject in urg, and will not be doing so, as a) the public archives speak for themselves and b) ^up there I have promised urglers that I will not do so. I'm not taking sides. I'm not interested in who said what to whom, when, why, where or how that started the spats here on either side. I'm merely refuting a lie involving me used as supporting material in a spat. Whichever side used one I would do so. -- Pedt |
Is anybody there ( 22.20 hrs ref point)
Pedt wrote: (snip) Hullo Pedt. But you appreciate cascades as http://tinyurl.com/nfbrc proves. Ho yes. Appreciating from a distance that is. It was lovely at some point - all these colours changing. And why not appreciate something nice amongst all the horrible posts? I had forgotten it was in June 2004 !! Time really flies :o) I'm not taking sides. I'm not interested in who said what to whom, when, why, where or how that started the spats here on either side. I'm merely refuting a lie involving me used as supporting material in a spat. Whichever side used one I would do so. Fair enough. |
Is anybody there ( 22.20 hrs ref point)
On 14/3/06 19:17, in article
, "Richard Brooks" wrote: Rusty Hinge 2 wrote: The message from Sacha contains these words: Point is concerning the attempt to deny the use of the gardening group, which I consider fair comment and within urg charter. And I'm afraid, the thread that Janet cites shows that at demon.local, Puce has infuriated people by her flirtations with trolls. It is hard to avoid drawing some unpleasant conclusions and at least wondering if some of her friends haven't followed her here. The trick is to know trolls when you see them and then ignore them. The trick is to find who goes into rec.ponds from this group as that newsgroup was mentioned in the trolls despatches and whoever ****ed someone off in that group brought it here. Quite a few people from here have been in rec.ponds. But whether they originated posts there or what they wrote or replied to here was cross-posted, I haven't checked. The person who has caused all the trouble may be using 20 different names for all we know when posting regularly, as opposed to spamming. They're not exactly the sort that is known for their courage! -- Sacha |
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