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Strelitzia - Birds of paradise
Are these ok to grow outside? Or do they need to be put
indoors/greenhouse in the winter? Just bought 2 of them (coming in a few weeks), and in 11cms pots now. Any help would be great. |
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"htmark98" wrote in message oups.com... Are these ok to grow outside? Or do they need to be put indoors/greenhouse in the winter? Just bought 2 of them (coming in a few weeks), and in 11cms pots now. Any help would be great. Strictly indoor plants during winter with a min of about 50F. During summer it should be OK outside until the nights draw in. You may get regret from a frosted plant but I would not bet on it. |
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htmark98 wrote:
Are these ok to grow outside? Or do they need to be put indoors/greenhouse in the winter? Just bought 2 of them (coming in a few weeks), and in 11cms pots now. Any help would be great. Gosh! Don't even think about growing these outdoors, even in summer, I'd say: over winter they'll want an even temp of 10C. -- Mike. |
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"Rupert" wrote in message ... "htmark98" wrote in message oups.com... Are these ok to grow outside? Or do they need to be put indoors/greenhouse in the winter? Just bought 2 of them (coming in a few weeks), and in 11cms pots now. Any help would be great. Strictly indoor plants during winter with a min of about 50F. During summer it should be OK outside until the nights draw in. You may get regret from a frosted plant but I would not bet on it. Regret?? and how ---but I meant re growth |
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In article , Rupert wrote:
"htmark98" wrote in message roups.com... Are these ok to grow outside? Or do they need to be put indoors/greenhouse in the winter? Just bought 2 of them (coming in a few weeks), and in 11cms pots now. Any help would be great. Strictly indoor plants during winter with a min of about 50F. During summer it should be OK outside until the nights draw in. Er, not quite. David Poole's reply is the best one, as usual! In the south, they grow happily outside in a sunny spot, and appreciate fairly regular soaking and fertilising. Otherwise, just keep them from extreme wind. Virtually no attention needed. In the winter, they just need to be comfortably above freezing, dryish but not dessicated, and in a light, airy place. They usually flower then. They can handle 25 Celcius even in the winter, though I don't know how well they could take it continually. But do not worry about a slight cold snap in autumn, provided that it is mild and brief. They are FAR tougher than most people realise. What is critical is that they don't actually freeze, but I have had rime on leaves and flower buds without damage. And, in Africa, that is commonplace. Watch out for red spider mite and mealybug. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Nick Maclaren wrote: In the south, they grow happily outside in a sunny spot, and appreciate fairly regular soaking and fertilising. Otherwise, just keep them from extreme wind. Virtually no attention needed. In the south IN THE SUMMER, .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Mine survive outdoors happily all through the year ;-), however I
wouldn't suggest that anyone in the UK rely on that, even in the warmer areas. Here in Southern Spain it's a different matter :-), in fact I've one just comimg out now. You don't say how old the plants are, but they do take about 6 or 7 years to flower from seed, so it maybe a year or two before you get flowers so don't despair. Mike |
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Thanks Everyone
I live in South Wales. |
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jane wrote: ~ ~In the winter, they just need to be comfortably above freezing, dryish ~but not dessicated, and in a light, airy place. They usually flower ~then. They can handle 25 Celcius even in the winter, though I don't ~know how well they could take it continually. Pretty well. They grow outside in Hawaii, which has a pretty constant temperature. "In downtown Honolulu the warmest month is August, with an average temperature of about 78° F the coldest, February, around 72° F The range between the coldest and warmest months averages only 6° F." (That's 22-25.5C) No, that's not the point. The problem about the UK winter is the dark; the combination of high temperatures and low light levels causes trouble to a great many sub-tropicals. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:12:39 +0000 (UTC), jane
wrote: I keep the conserv. at 13C +-2C at this time of year, thanks to a digital thermostatic plug I was told about recently (it's much better than trusting the heater's inbuilt thermostat which used to keep the room between 8C and 20C! ) More info please. Do you know an online supplier? Can you post a link? -- Chris E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net |
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:25:47 +0000 (UTC), jane
wrote: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...Index/Therm_1/ They're all over the SE and have delivery areas too, if you don't want to track one down. I drove to Slough as their area only went as far as Amersham and I'm a couple of miles further on... The trick is to set it to what you want (bearing in mind it's sensing the temperature at the level of the socket which in my case is floor-level!) and see what reading an independent max/min thermometer gives you at the level of your plants. Then tweak the setting as necessary. It also means you can set your electric heater to full blast on, at full thermostat, and so when you need extra heat eg when you just opened the door from the outside, it reheats the room very quickly and then is switched off by the plug. I suspect it's less of a fire risk than one that's on all the time and being badly controlled by its own analogue thermostat. jane Many thanks for that. I'm not happy with the built-in thermostat on my g/h heater even after 'modification', and potentially this looks a great improvement. -- Chris E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net |
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jane writes
Just put a tiny parasene paraffin heater in the mini greenhouse, too. That's obviously not got a thermostat on, but seems to keep the temp to about 8C in there as against the zero it is outside. That sounds impressive. Is this 8 deg C during the day, or do you mean it doesn't drop below 8 deg even during the night? How much does that cost to run? I have off-peak electric heating in the greenhouse, which is double glazed and has additional bubble wrap in the winter. I keep it at a night time min of 40deg F as a compromise between what I'd really like and size of electricity bill. -- Kay |
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