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a proper english garden
hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice.
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a proper english garden
Hi Greengrass
To establish an English Garden, you need rain and sunshine and a temperature range as ours is here. Do you have that? Do you have 'Green Grass'? Mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "greengrass" wrote in message ... hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. -- greengrass |
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a proper english garden
"greengrass" wrote in message ... hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. greengrass American related "English gardening" : http://landscaping.about.com/cs/hist..._history_3.htm http://experts.about.com/q/Landscapi...arden-idea.htm or take a course :~) http://www.englishgardeningschool.co.uk/ Jenny |
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a proper english garden
greengrass wrote: hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. I have friends who live in Philadelphia who love English gardens and who go annually to that wonderful flower show. I think your chief problem is going to be your sometimes very cold winters. We do have comparatively mild, wet winters and long weeks of snow and ice are not the norm. They just feel like it at times! I know your winters aren't always terribly severe and you might live in one of the more mild areas but whatever you plant is going to have to survive the worst case scenario, unless you're prepared to keep replacing them. So - start with the 'bones' of the garden, which is made up of the permanent planting, such as trees, shrubs, lawns, hedges and any water interest you want to add. There's a magazine called The English Garden and if that's available in USA, it will show you pictures of lots of different gardens here. For the interest of urglers, I found this link: http://www.pennsylvaniapride.com/default.aspx?pageid=19 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
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"Sacha" wrote in message oups.com... greengrass wrote: hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. I have friends who live in Philadelphia who love English gardens and who go annually to that wonderful flower show. I think your chief problem is going to be your sometimes very cold winters. We do have comparatively mild, wet winters and long weeks of snow and ice are not the norm. They just feel like it at times! I know your winters aren't always terribly severe and you might live in one of the more mild areas but whatever you plant is going to have to survive the worst case scenario, unless you're prepared to keep replacing them. So - start with the 'bones' of the garden, which is made up of the permanent planting, such as trees, shrubs, lawns, hedges and any water interest you want to add. There's a magazine called The English Garden and if that's available in USA, it will show you pictures of lots of different gardens here. For the interest of urglers, I found this link: http://www.pennsylvaniapride.com/default.aspx?pageid=19 -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon Might I also recommend tonnes of rubble 2 inches below the soil from where the builders could not be bothered to dispose of the waste properly, a Morrison's carrier bag that mysteriously keeps reappearing due to next doors rubbish bags splitting open and an empty tin of lager propped against your wall during World cup season courtesy of the locals having footy parties. -- *..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ .·´ -:¦:- *Jackie* -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* |
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In message , Jackie
Brown writes Might I also recommend tonnes of rubble 2 inches below the soil from where the builders could not be bothered to dispose of the waste properly, a Morrison's carrier bag that mysteriously keeps reappearing due to next doors rubbish bags splitting open and an empty tin of lager propped against your wall during World cup season courtesy of the locals having footy parties. If it's a country garden there ought to be a semi-natural area with wild daffodils, wood anemones, primroses or cowslips etc etc naturalised in grass under orchard trees. You can't cut the grass until the leaves die down in July or August so other wild flowers tend to move in - eyebright, mallow, milkmaids' smocks, cuckoo pint, patches of stinging nettles (essential for your butterflies) and the odd bramble. For true authenticity, you can't beat the interesting shapes and warm rust tones of a cast-iron bed end, a derelict bicycle, a few corrugated iron sheets and some road cones. -- Sue ];( |
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"MadCow" wrote in message ... In message , Jackie Brown writes Might I also recommend tonnes of rubble 2 inches below the soil from where the builders could not be bothered to dispose of the waste properly, a Morrison's carrier bag that mysteriously keeps reappearing due to next doors rubbish bags splitting open and an empty tin of lager propped against your wall during World cup season courtesy of the locals having footy parties. If it's a country garden there ought to be a semi-natural area with wild daffodils, wood anemones, primroses or cowslips etc etc naturalised in grass under orchard trees. You can't cut the grass until the leaves die down in July or August so other wild flowers tend to move in - eyebright, mallow, milkmaids' smocks, cuckoo pint, patches of stinging nettles (essential for your butterflies) and the odd bramble. For true authenticity, you can't beat the interesting shapes and warm rust tones of a cast-iron bed end, a derelict bicycle, a few corrugated iron sheets and some road cones. Sue ];( You forgot the Ford transit without an engine............. Jenny :~) |
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"Scotia" wrote in message ... greengrass Wrote: hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. This is mine: http://tinyurl.com/ly5wp Scotia Nice site :~)) So well organised! But I could not find any reference to whereabouts UK you are.........? Jenny |
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-- ------------------------------------------------------------------- "JennyC" wrote in message ... "MadCow" wrote in message ... In message , Jackie Brown writes Might I also recommend tonnes of rubble 2 inches below the soil from where the builders could not be bothered to dispose of the waste properly, a Morrison's carrier bag that mysteriously keeps reappearing due to next doors rubbish bags splitting open and an empty tin of lager propped against your wall during World cup season courtesy of the locals having footy parties. If it's a country garden there ought to be a semi-natural area with wild daffodils, wood anemones, primroses or cowslips etc etc naturalised in grass under orchard trees. You can't cut the grass until the leaves die down in July or August so other wild flowers tend to move in - eyebright, mallow, milkmaids' smocks, cuckoo pint, patches of stinging nettles (essential for your butterflies) and the odd bramble. For true authenticity, you can't beat the interesting shapes and warm rust tones of a cast-iron bed end, a derelict bicycle, a few corrugated iron sheets and some road cones. Sue ];( You forgot the Ford transit without an engine............. Jenny :~) and the discarded washing machine along with the rusted bit of chain link fence bedded in amongst the nettles Mike |
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a proper english garden
greengrass wrote:
hello, I live in pennsylvania, u.s.a. and I'm landscaping my yard. would like to do something akin to an english garden. I thought I would go right to the source. Can anyone over ther tell me exactly what an english garden is. how would i start? thank you for your advice. Others have made some suggestions. It might be an idea to have a look at what Auntie BBC's gardeners are doing, via her website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/tv_an...ld/index.shtml or http://tinyurl.com/ofqns They have a number of small demonstration gardens, some of them changed every year, and some more permanent, and they let you into the thinking that underlies them. You'll read a lot of criticism of television gardeners here in u.r.g., but that's just part of the fun -- the Gardener's World people do actually know what they're doing: they're gardeners first and TV personalities last. I doubt if you'll find the engineless Ford and washing machine there, though: those sound more like a cruelly stereotypical West Virginia yard than the archetypal English garden! Your question made me think about what an "English" garden actually is. Even after thinking, I wasn't at all sure. But I think it's probably about a sense of timelessness and comfort: Grandpa may not have done it exactly the same, but he'd still feel at home. That means quite a lot of perennials and bulbs, and a basic structure provided by trees and shrubs (I think it was Sacha who mentioned the element of structure). I'd want an apple tree or two. It needs birds. A big trick to pull off is to generate the sense that this garden is a home for plants but also for people -- you don't want a film set, where it would be a disaster if the kids or the dog knocked a few things sideways. I think of the way people dress he "I've been wearing this old Shetland sweater for ten years, and I like it, thank you." There's always a relaxing underlying theme of green, reflecting the native climate: it's usually calm and cool, like the people (I don't know which came first!). Individuals grow an enormous range of things against the green background ranging from the garish to the understated, but that background is always there even in a heat wave. Do keep telling us what you're doing, even where you disagree -- disagreement is what we do best here! -- Mike. |
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