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michael adams wrote:
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Water companies do not make the law.


Nope.

So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the
privatisiation
legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which
particular
provisions they choose to enact.


As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the
car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer
to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for
interest.
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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michael adams wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote...
Water companies do not make the law.


Nope.

So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the
privatisiation
legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in

which
particular
provisions they choose to enact.


As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the
car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer
to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for
interest.



Right now under the 1999 legistlation Water Companies can apply to
introduce compulsory water metering to restrict demand. And at least
one - Dover if not more, has already done so. If things got really bad
Water Companies are empowered to cut off domestic supplies altogether
and install stand pipes. If there was any evidence that the use of
hosepipes for supposedly innocent use was being abused, there's no doubt
whatsover that the use of all hosepipes would be banned forthwith.
And that such an eventuality was anticipated in the legislation,
by a catch-all clause if nowhere else.

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Old 03-05-2006, 09:33 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening,uk.d-i-y
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In article , michael adams
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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michael adams wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote...
Water companies do not make the law.

Nope.

So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the
privatisiation
legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in

which
particular
provisions they choose to enact.


As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the
car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer
to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for
interest.



Right now under the 1999 legistlation Water Companies can apply to
introduce compulsory water metering to restrict demand. And at least
one - Dover if not more, has already done so. If things got really bad
Water Companies are empowered to cut off domestic supplies altogether
and install stand pipes. If there was any evidence that the use of
hosepipes for supposedly innocent use was being abused, there's no doubt
whatsover that the use of all hosepipes would be banned forthwith.
And that such an eventuality was anticipated in the legislation,
by a catch-all clause if nowhere else.


The water companies have no power at all to ban all uses of domestic
hosepipes. They do have the power to make exemptions from the
proscribed prohibitions but they don't have the power to add new
prohibitions even in an emergency.

If they need to save more water they _must_ apply for a drought order
to ban so-called non-essential uses which include window washing,
irrigation of parks and sportsgrounds, filling ornamental ponds, etc.
This process takes some weeks - the Secretary of State has to agree and
there has to be a public enquiry. Three water companies applied for
such a drought order a month or so ago but none has yet been granted or
implemented. The next and final step thereafter would be to apply for
an Emergency Drought Order which does give the water compnaies blanket
powers to prohibit any use of water they want - and to make people
queue up at standpipes to collect their water by the bucketfull.

To put things in perspective, the outside tap uses 4% annually of all
water supplied to households. Loo flushing uses 35%. Dishwashers,
washing machines and power showers waste far more water than is ever
put on the garden via a hosepipe.

But the water companies don't have the power - except under an
Emergency Drought Order - to ban uses of water inside the home. That's
because it is classified as essential domestic use and it is their
statutory obligation to supply it, even if most householders waste
gallons of the stuff every day.

Because the outside tap is not classified as 'domestic use' it is a
soft target - indeed the only target for the water companies. But it
isn't an effective one. Hosepipe bans don't save much water. Research
by some of the water companies during the last drought showed that many
households' water consumption _increased_ after a hosepipe ban.
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Old 03-05-2006, 05:30 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening,uk.d-i-y
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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michael adams wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote...
Water companies do not make the law.


Nope.

So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the
privatisiation
legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which
particular
provisions they choose to enact.


As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the
car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer
to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for
interest.


What is banned depends on where you are and who provides your water. The
legislation covering drought orders provides for a range of measures to be
introduced, and depending on local circumstances individual water companies
may pick and choose the measures they impose, balancing the need to save
water with the need to minimise socio-economic disruption. The definitive
story on what you are, or aren't, allowed to do should be available on your
local water company website or look at
http://www.beatthedrought.com/aboutT...OnWaterUse.asp

If things get really bad the Water Resources Act 2003 allows almost total
control of water use in real emergencies, once we get to stand pipes in the
street. Before that point there is a long, and comprehensive, list of water
use that may be restricted, and it is quite likely that some parts of the
South East will have more than just a hose pipe ban this summer.

Andy


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Old 03-05-2006, 08:06 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening,uk.d-i-y
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Andy McKenzie wrote:
What is banned depends on where you are and who provides your water. The
legislation covering drought orders provides for a range of measures to be
introduced, and depending on local circumstances individual water companies
may pick and choose the measures they impose, balancing the need to save
water with the need to minimise socio-economic disruption.


Yup. At the moment in various places (Dover excepted?) we've
only got a "hosepipe ban". As far as I know, this means you
can still clean your "patio" with a pressure washed. Y/n?


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