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Hi,
cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Has anyone tried this? TIA Dave R -- |
Hosepipe ban, power washer, water butt, pump - X-post
David W.E. Roberts wrote: Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. I heard on the radio that you can actually use a hosepipe and as much water as you like to clean your patio, but not to water the garden or wash the car. It was a "isn't this ban stupid" type stories. MBQ |
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. AFAIK the ban only prohibits washing cars with a hosepipe, or watering the garden. Pressure washing flags should be OK. |
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Chris Bacon wrote: David W.E. Roberts wrote: My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. AFAIK the ban only prohibits washing cars with a hosepipe, or watering the garden. Pressure washing flags should be OK. According to Karcher http://www.karcheruk.co.uk/news.php and Hozelock http://www.hozelock.com/HoseRestrictions-faq.htm using a pressure washer is OK, except for washing a car. googling "hosepipe ban pressure washer" does, however, throw up other links implying that pressure washers are not allowed. MBQ |
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http://www.thameswater.co.uk/UK/regi...FAQ_000051.jsp
Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. David W.E. Roberts wrote: Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Has anyone tried this? TIA Dave R |
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Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted.
It's a question of conscience. Indeed. I've put off laying a lawn for over a year due to water shortage, even though the hosepipe ban has only just come in. Given that things don't seem to be changing, we're now considering laying plastic grass! Christian. |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote: So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too. Eh? So are you saying that they suck water - they don't require any pressure [at the input end]? As someone who has saved rainwater for years, and moreover who's now on a meter so has an even greater interest in "water conservation", I'm keen to know. BTW my last pressure washer (29 quid at B&Q 18 months ago) packed in (just gone dead) -- exactly as predicted by An Expert on the DIY group. I was thinking of getting another cheapo job, next time I'm at B&Q or Aldi. I hardly used the last one at all, but for one or two jobs (like sluicing salt from under the car, or blasting garden furniture clean) it was great. (I use buckets of rainwater and a special brush for the car: _really_ good.) John |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Indeed. I've put off laying a lawn for over a year due to water shortage, even though the hosepipe ban has only just come in. Given that things don't seem to be changing, we're now considering laying plastic grass! If my Other Half wasn't so protective about his blessed lawns, I'd have clover instead of grass for our front lawn. It faces north and is over such rubbishy, stony soil that it's either thick with moss when shaded in winter or dried out to a crisp in a hot summer spell. Clover seems to stay green whatever the weather - you can mow it less often, forget the weed and feed and scarifying, and have the bonus of red and/or white fowers. Seems logical to me, but will he even entertain the idea? Not a chance. :-/ -- Sue |
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Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too.
Eh? So are you saying that they suck water - they don't require any pressure [at the input end]? That is exactly what I'm saying. BTW my last pressure washer (29 quid at B&Q 18 months ago) packed in (just gone dead) -- exactly as predicted by An Expert on the DIY group. Mine is just such a cheapie from the same shop at the same price. Except that it has lasted for years despite horrendous abuse (like being left outside unprotected over winter full of water). Christian. |
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On Wed, 3 May 2006 10:15:46 UTC, Triple Jumper
wrote: http://www.thameswater.co.uk/UK/regi...FAQ_000051.jsp Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Being true for Thames Water doesn't make it true for other water companies, though. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 May 2006 10:15:46 UTC, Triple Jumper wrote: http://www.thameswater.co.uk/UK/regi...FAQ_000051.jsp Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Being true for Thames Water doesn't make it true for other water companies, though. Same for Southern Water :-)) Mike -- ------------------------------------------------ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007 |
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"Christian McArdle" wrote in message .. . Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Indeed. I've put off laying a lawn for over a year due to water shortage, even though the hosepipe ban has only just come in. Given that things don't seem to be changing, we're now considering laying plastic grass! You are allowed to fill swimming pools and paddling pools though! Why doncha just lay your lawn, bung a couple of paddling pools on it, fill em up and puncture the sides? :-) |
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"PM" wrote in message ... "Christian McArdle" wrote in message .. . Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Indeed. I've put off laying a lawn for over a year due to water shortage, even though the hosepipe ban has only just come in. Given that things don't seem to be changing, we're now considering laying plastic grass! You are allowed to fill swimming pools and paddling pools though! Why doncha just lay your lawn, bung a couple of paddling pools on it, fill em up and puncture the sides? :-) Let the air out ;-) Don't puncture. You will need them for the same exercise next week ;-)) Mike -- ------------------------------------------------ Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk International Festival of the Sea 28th June - 1st July 2007 |
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Bob Eager wrote:
manatbandq wrote: David W.E. Roberts wrote: My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. I heard on the radio that you can actually use a hosepipe and as much water as you like to clean your patio, but not to water the garden or wash the car. It was a "isn't this ban stupid" type stories. Rules vary with water company. No they don't. Water companies do not make the law. |
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In uk.d-i-y John wrote:
In article , "Christian McArdle" wrote: So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too. Eh? So are you saying that they suck water - they don't require any pressure [at the input end]? YPWMV. Mine says explicitly "will not suck water from a water butt". Now, if it means that it requires a positive head by this, ... I have however run it from ~50m of hosepipe, connected to a hot water tank maybe 1.5m above where I was working. It claims 360l/hour, which'd work out to 6l/min, or 100ml/s. On actually measuring the output into a bucket, I get more like 60% of this. |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... Bob Eager wrote: manatbandq wrote: David W.E. Roberts wrote: My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. I heard on the radio that you can actually use a hosepipe and as much water as you like to clean your patio, but not to water the garden or wash the car. It was a "isn't this ban stupid" type stories. Rules vary with water company. No they don't. Water companies do not make the law. Nope. So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the privatisiation legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which particular provisions they choose to enact. They'll want to balance any possible savings againt the possible public relations cost, when deciding on any particular measure. The possibility of a campaign encouraging water customers to withhold or delay payment etc. won't be entirely absent from their minds for a start. As it is, the water companies, many foreign owned, have a disastrous PR image. michael adams .... |
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michael adams wrote:
"Chris Bacon" wrote... Water companies do not make the law. Nope. So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the privatisiation legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which particular provisions they choose to enact. As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for interest. |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... michael adams wrote: "Chris Bacon" wrote... Water companies do not make the law. Nope. So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the privatisiation legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which particular provisions they choose to enact. As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for interest. Right now under the 1999 legistlation Water Companies can apply to introduce compulsory water metering to restrict demand. And at least one - Dover if not more, has already done so. If things got really bad Water Companies are empowered to cut off domestic supplies altogether and install stand pipes. If there was any evidence that the use of hosepipes for supposedly innocent use was being abused, there's no doubt whatsover that the use of all hosepipes would be banned forthwith. And that such an eventuality was anticipated in the legislation, by a catch-all clause if nowhere else. michael adams .... I charge £45 per hour for documentation searches, with a minimum charge of £50. |
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wrote:
According to Karcher http://www.karcheruk.co.uk/news.php and Hozelock http://www.hozelock.com/HoseRestrictions-faq.htm using a pressure washer is OK, except for washing a car. googling "hosepipe ban pressure washer" does, however, throw up other links implying that pressure washers are not allowed. MBQ Following from www.3valleys.co.uk (W London water suppliers) quote Q. Why are you banning washing of cars and watering of gardens when people can still fill up pools and wash driveways? A. When the water resources of a water company are at threat due to long term drought they can take a number of actions to encourage customers to reduce their water consumption. The first stage is a hosepipe ban under the Water Industry Act 1991 (Section 76), which prohibits the use of a hosepipe for watering of a private garden and washing of a private car. This legislation was originally drafted in 1945 and does not cover many activities which are now part of modern lifestyles eg. Jetwashes to wash patios/driveways, filling of swimming pools, leisure pools and contribute to the fact that our customers now use twice as much water as their grandparents did. We agree about the anomaly and have already raised this issue with government and our regulators with a view to encourage revision of the existing legislation. /quote -- Adrian C |
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"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
... michael adams wrote: "Chris Bacon" wrote... Water companies do not make the law. Nope. So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the privatisiation legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which particular provisions they choose to enact. As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for interest. What is banned depends on where you are and who provides your water. The legislation covering drought orders provides for a range of measures to be introduced, and depending on local circumstances individual water companies may pick and choose the measures they impose, balancing the need to save water with the need to minimise socio-economic disruption. The definitive story on what you are, or aren't, allowed to do should be available on your local water company website or look at http://www.beatthedrought.com/aboutT...OnWaterUse.asp If things get really bad the Water Resources Act 2003 allows almost total control of water use in real emergencies, once we get to stand pipes in the street. Before that point there is a long, and comprehensive, list of water use that may be restricted, and it is quite likely that some parts of the South East will have more than just a hose pipe ban this summer. Andy |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 May 2006 10:15:46 UTC, Triple Jumper wrote: http://www.thameswater.co.uk/UK/regi...FAQ_000051.jsp Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Being true for Thames Water doesn't make it true for other water companies, though. The relevant Act only gives the Water Suppliers the power to prohibit the use of hose pipes for watering of domestic gardens and for the washing of private cars. They do not have the powers to impose greater restrictions, until they get to the point where they have to limit supplies to standpipes and/or tankers. Colin Bignell |
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Christian McArdle wrote: So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too. Make sure the water is filtered, though. You don't want bits of leaves and twig in the washer. I was watching that "green" programme last night about that bloke who can't afford a pair of scissors setting up a turbine to pump well water to his roof from an open well. It struck me as odd they never built up the adit to keep out surface water and didn't seem to have a cover to stop windblown litter dropping in. No mention of a filter either. The occasional blip that might put a little grit in the works is capable of playing havoc in the plumbing. They'd onlly need a felt pad or somesuch in a collander. |
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John wrote:
In article , "Christian McArdle" wrote: So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too. Eh? So are you saying that they suck water - they don't require any pressure [at the input end]? I have a Karcher 411A and it sucks water up without any head of pressure. It takes some seconds to get the water out of the lance though, due to the slow rate of water use, but otherwise was fine. Dave |
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Hi
On 3 May 2006 10:25:05 -0700, "Weatherlawyer" wrote: Christian McArdle wrote: So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Mine worked just fine from a bucket. Used water surprisingly slowly, too. Make sure the water is filtered, though. You don't want bits of leaves and twig in the washer. I was watching that "green" programme last night about that bloke who can't afford a pair of scissors setting up a turbine to pump well water to his roof from an open well. I'm getting more dissilusioned with that program by the week - they're doing some very strange things.... ....like running 3 woodburning stoves and then fiddling about with an air-to-air heat exchanger - rather than running one decent woodburning stove with boiler & radiators to 'spread' the heat around It struck me as odd they never built up the adit to keep out surface water and didn't seem to have a cover to stop windblown litter dropping in. No mention of a filter either. The occasional blip that might put a little grit in the works is capable of playing havoc in the plumbing. They'd onlly need a felt pad or somesuch in a collander. We use a well for all of our domestic water. Before use it's passed through a cartridge-type grit filter, and then a UV filter to kill off any bacteria. Not sure I'd want to do without either of those (UV for the bugs and grit to keep the crud out of the ball-valves, tap seats etc). Having a little wind-genny to drive the pump is also all very well - but the amount of power consumed by the pump must be pretty small - as the genny wouldn't have been much more than 200 - 300watts. OK - so it was all very good on camera - but whether it was cost-effective.... dunno..... We also heat our house by means of a woodburner / multifuel stove. All very well having a nice big blazing bonfire for Guy Fawkes night - but in this house that timber would have ended up in our woodburner - either as kindling or as substitute logs.... - and you don't dry logs by wrapping them up in a tarpaulin.... Ah well - I suppose it makes good telly..... g Regards Adrian Suffolk UK ======return email munged================= take out the papers and the trash to reply |
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Has anyone tried this? TIA Dave R I bought a power washer for that very purpose last year. Could still do it with the ban in place, but won't. Back to a bucket, scrubbing brush, and Jif. Oh, and some knee pads :) -- ßôyþëtë |
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Andy McKenzie wrote:
What is banned depends on where you are and who provides your water. The legislation covering drought orders provides for a range of measures to be introduced, and depending on local circumstances individual water companies may pick and choose the measures they impose, balancing the need to save water with the need to minimise socio-economic disruption. Yup. At the moment in various places (Dover excepted?) we've only got a "hosepipe ban". As far as I know, this means you can still clean your "patio" with a pressure washed. Y/n? |
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On Wed, 3 May 2006 20:09:50 UTC, Stan The Man wrote:
No they don't. All water compnaies have to abide by the law which is the Temporary Hosepipe Ban provision in Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991. Using a hosepipe from the mains to drive a pressure washer for any non-vehicle cleaning purpose is legitimate under a "hosepipe ban" and none of the water companies say otherwise My water company is saying otherwise, at least by omission. And they call it a 'Total Hosepipe Ban'! nor can they. That's useful to know. I checked on their web pages a while ago, and the headline pages say 'you can't use a hosepipe'. The FAQ mentions nothing about other usage. I dug deeper and found a copy of the actual restriction order, and it's as you say. Thanks. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Most power washers will suck water from the same level easily. You would need an in line filter if there is any muck in the butt. Pumping would work, but you need to keep the pump pressure low. Anything over 10 bar will goose the inlet valves. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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"David W.E. Roberts" writes: Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Has anyone tried this? Yes -- I connect a pressure washer up to my water butt with a long hose. The only feed pressure is the height of water in the butt. Actually, my cheap pressure washer has only ever been used from the water butt. I did wonder if sand might get into it and wreck the pump, but it's lasted about 5 years now with no problems. In practice, the sand tends to have sunk to the dead area in the bottom of the butt, and doesn't come out of the tap which is a few inches above that. I was washing my car this way the first weekend of the hose pipe ban, and got lots of dirty looks from passers by, who could only see the hose and pressure washer. I kind of felt guilty, even though I was doing nothing wrong. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Mike wrote:
Being true for Thames Water doesn't make it true for other water companies, though. Same for Southern Water :-)) Move North. We have water to spare :.( -- BigEgg Hack to size. Hammer to fit. Weld to join. Grind to shape. Paint to cover. http://www.workshop-projects.com - Books, Articles & Plans http://www.stores.ebay.co.uk/honyaservices - Tools & Miscellanea |
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In article , Bob Eager
wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2006 09:14:01 UTC, wrote: David W.E. Roberts wrote: Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. I heard on the radio that you can actually use a hosepipe and as much water as you like to clean your patio, but not to water the garden or wash the car. It was a "isn't this ban stupid" type stories. Rules vary with water company. Take care. No they don't. All water compnaies have to abide by the law which is the Temporary Hosepipe Ban provision in Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991. Using a hosepipe from the mains to drive a pressure washer for any non-vehicle cleaning purpose is legitimate under a "hosepipe ban" and none of the water companies say otherwise, nor can they. |
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In article , michael adams
wrote: "Chris Bacon" wrote in message ... michael adams wrote: "Chris Bacon" wrote... Water companies do not make the law. Nope. So long as they don't exceed the powers granted to them by the privatisiation legislation, they're as allowed to be as selective as they wish, in which particular provisions they choose to enact. As far as I know the only things that are banned are washing the car with a hosepipe, and watering the garden. If you've a pointer to a legal resource that says different, I'd like to read it, for interest. Right now under the 1999 legistlation Water Companies can apply to introduce compulsory water metering to restrict demand. And at least one - Dover if not more, has already done so. If things got really bad Water Companies are empowered to cut off domestic supplies altogether and install stand pipes. If there was any evidence that the use of hosepipes for supposedly innocent use was being abused, there's no doubt whatsover that the use of all hosepipes would be banned forthwith. And that such an eventuality was anticipated in the legislation, by a catch-all clause if nowhere else. The water companies have no power at all to ban all uses of domestic hosepipes. They do have the power to make exemptions from the proscribed prohibitions but they don't have the power to add new prohibitions even in an emergency. If they need to save more water they _must_ apply for a drought order to ban so-called non-essential uses which include window washing, irrigation of parks and sportsgrounds, filling ornamental ponds, etc. This process takes some weeks - the Secretary of State has to agree and there has to be a public enquiry. Three water companies applied for such a drought order a month or so ago but none has yet been granted or implemented. The next and final step thereafter would be to apply for an Emergency Drought Order which does give the water compnaies blanket powers to prohibit any use of water they want - and to make people queue up at standpipes to collect their water by the bucketfull. To put things in perspective, the outside tap uses 4% annually of all water supplied to households. Loo flushing uses 35%. Dishwashers, washing machines and power showers waste far more water than is ever put on the garden via a hosepipe. But the water companies don't have the power - except under an Emergency Drought Order - to ban uses of water inside the home. That's because it is classified as essential domestic use and it is their statutory obligation to supply it, even if most householders waste gallons of the stuff every day. Because the outside tap is not classified as 'domestic use' it is a soft target - indeed the only target for the water companies. But it isn't an effective one. Hosepipe bans don't save much water. Research by some of the water companies during the last drought showed that many households' water consumption _increased_ after a hosepipe ban. |
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from bigegg contains these words: Move North. We have water to spare :.( I was digging around in a concrete post-hole today, trying to get the remains of a rotten gatepost out. It was sopping wet despite being open at the bottom to drain. Ah, Slopshire - not for nothing is where we live called the Wet Mudlands. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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In article , Andrew Gabriel
wrote: In article , "David W.E. Roberts" writes: Hi, cross posted to gardening and DIY as probably relevant to both :-) My plans to power wash the flags at the back of my Berkshire property have been thwarted by the hosepipe ban. As far as I can tell, power washers don't use that much water. So is it feasible to put a pump in a rain water butt to feed water to the power washer? Has anyone tried this? Yes -- I connect a pressure washer up to my water butt with a long hose. The only feed pressure is the height of water in the butt. Actually, my cheap pressure washer has only ever been used from the water butt. I did wonder if sand might get into it and wreck the pump, but it's lasted about 5 years now with no problems. In practice, the sand tends to have sunk to the dead area in the bottom of the butt, and doesn't come out of the tap which is a few inches above that. I was washing my car this way the first weekend of the hose pipe ban, and got lots of dirty looks from passers by, who could only see the hose and pressure washer. I kind of felt guilty, even though I was doing nothing wrong. You have highlighted the main reason why prosecutions under this legislation won't happen. It's almost impossible to prove that someone watering his plants with a hose was connected to the mains rather than a reservoir. Nothing new there -- there have been no prosecutions under the hosepipe ban legislation for 40 years. The legislation is bad and the water companies just make a lot of noise about £1000 fines in the hope that the publicity will deter people. |
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nightjar .uk.com nightjar@insert my surname here wrote in message ... http://www.thameswater.co.uk/UK/regi...FAQ_000051.jsp Washing flags is not explicitly banned, so you wouldn't be prosecuted. It's a question of conscience. Being true for Thames Water doesn't make it true for other water companies, though. The relevant Act only gives the Water Suppliers the power to prohibit the use of hose pipes for watering of domestic gardens and for the washing of private cars. They do not have the powers to impose greater restrictions, until they get Until they are granted a drought order. - |
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The Invalid wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote: Water companies do not make the law. Water Companies can make their own rules for usage. There doesn't need to be any law imposed Please explain. |
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"The Invalid" wrote in message ... On a slight tangent, maybe the forced imposition of standpipes might alleviate a lot of friction on some estates? That would simply generate bad PR for the water companies, and the possibility of nationwide payment strikes. Many of the water companies are already foreign owned, are heavily diversified, have leaking pipes, and have a terrible image as it is. This is the sort of story which could keep the likes of the Sun and the Mail in headlines for months on end. The idea of trying to gouge even higher prices out of people as they queue to draw water out of standpipes in the street, simply doesn't bear thinking about. Possible water shortages which are probably a result of higher per capita consumption and building programmes as much as anything, are simply the first taste of reality that consumers are going to have to face up to. Spiralling oil, gas, and electricity prices won't be that far behind. IMO, any government that wants to maintain social cohesion in such circumstances will need to do something to dampen demand across the board. Don't forget now, you read it here first. michael adams |
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