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Old 20-06-2006, 02:26 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
stoves.
What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood will
need to be seasoned before use.
What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

Thanks
fred


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Old 20-06-2006, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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"fredhead" wrote in message
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I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
stoves.
What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood
will need to be seasoned before use.
What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

Thanks
fred


Willows need to be near water to do well.

Suggestions and 'Energy content per air dried full cord, in 000s of BTUs.'
at:
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/firewood.htm

Jenny




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Old 20-06-2006, 06:37 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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JennyC wrote:
Suggestions and 'Energy content per air dried full cord, in 000s of BTUs.'
at:
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/firewood.htm


What a fantastic site!! Thanx Jenny. I just love the house with the
wood stored all around it. It's going into my next report ;o)

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In article ,
"fredhead" writes:
|
| I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
| to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
| stoves.
| What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood will
| need to be seasoned before use.

Well, it might not need to be. Ash and some others burn well wet.

| What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

It will depend on the soil, aspect and so on. You would do well to coppice
them for such a use. Ash is one of the best, but chestnut, oak and many
others are excellent, too.

Willows and poplars are a disaster, as they don't burn when wet, and
burn far too fast when dry. They might be OK in a stove, but why not
plant something better?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Janet Baraclough writes:
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| from "fredhead" contains these words:
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| I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
| to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
| stoves.
| What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood will
| need to be seasoned before use.
| What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?
|
| Only if the area is wet enough in summer. Ash is fast, and better as
| firewood.

You have swiped my song sheet!

| Btw 20 trees won't provide a useful amount of firewood until at least
| 2016, more like 2026.

They would in the tropics, and remember that the overseas provinces are
legally part of France. Oops. I wouldn't plant ash there ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Trust me when I say they will be near water. Are you just referring to the
weeping type.
Great web site.
fred

"JennyC" wrote in message
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"fredhead" wrote in message
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I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
stoves.
What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood
will need to be seasoned before use.
What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

Thanks
fred


Willows need to be near water to do well.

Suggestions and 'Energy content per air dried full cord, in 000s of BTUs.'
at:
http://www.woodheat.org/firewood/firewood.htm

Jenny







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The reason I am looking for a fast grower is that I am approaching 50 and
want to at least have time to use some of what I grow. Add to this I will
need to be self sufficient so Time maybe isn't on my side.

Regards
fred

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
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In article ,
"fredhead" writes:
|
| I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be
able
| to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood
burning
| stoves.
| What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood
will
| need to be seasoned before use.

Well, it might not need to be. Ash and some others burn well wet.

| What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

It will depend on the soil, aspect and so on. You would do well to
coppice
them for such a use. Ash is one of the best, but chestnut, oak and many
others are excellent, too.

Willows and poplars are a disaster, as they don't burn when wet, and
burn far too fast when dry. They might be OK in a stove, but why not
plant something better?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.



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I have a lots of area to grow trees in so space wont be a problem for me.
This at least gives me some idea of how much I need before I start to use
the new trees.
I have several huge holly infected trees that need to come down so this will
tie me over for a few years at least.

Regards

fred

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I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be
able
to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
stoves.
What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood
will
need to be seasoned before use.
What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?


Only if the area is wet enough in summer. Ash is fast, and better as
firewood.

Btw 20 trees won't provide a useful amount of firewood until at least
2016, more like 2026.

Janet.

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I will be planting about 20 trees on my land in France and want to be able
to use some of them over the coming years as firewood for my wood burning
stoves.
What are the best types of wood for this purpose, I know that the wood will
need to be seasoned before use.
What are the quickest growing trees, do willows meet my need?

Thanks
fred
The quickest growing trees in mid-temperate latitudes are suitably chosen eucalypts. Certainly for the wood-pulp industry, in mid-Chile (200-600km south of Santiago, where wood is produced faster than anywhere else on the planet, and would be comparable to many parts of France south of the Loire), suitably chosen eucalyptus species produce a greater quantity of wood pulp per hectare per year than any other, and are ready for felling very quickly. Many species are also suitable for pollarding. Even in Britain, Raven Valley Nursery near Woking (http://www.ravenvalley.20m.com/index.html), which is a eucalypt specialist, accidentally produced a hybrid (they call it Eucalyptus x "Weirdo") which produced a trunk about 25cm diameter in just 4 years, and was about 8m high.

The other fast-growing tree of choice in such climates, at least for the wood-pulp industry, is Pinus radiata, or Monterrey Pine. This covers vast areas of New Zealand and mid-Chile. But it doesn't pollard, and slows down significantly if taken into cooler climates, eg Britain.

Whether you like these particular trees is another matter.
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