Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

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Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

"Does it *REALLY* taste of Strawberry Milkshake?"

Oh BTW, NP - TYA I'm coming home...

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Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?


We like it too, and we grow it on the allotment. I don't know the origin of
the name, it doesn't seem all that cockney to me, but it is one of the
brassicas, like cabbage, cauliflower, kohl rabi etc.

Steve

Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Sounds more Italian to me.

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Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK

On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
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Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Sounds more Italian to me.

As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
stuff is broccoli.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

In article , Sacha writes:
| On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
| wrote:
| Paul wrote
| Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
| a cockney word for cabbage?
|
| Sounds more Italian to me.
|
| As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
| stuff is broccoli.

The word dates from 1699 in English, and is indeed derived from the
Italian "broccoli", meaning cabbage-sprouts.

In UK gardening parlance, Sacha is right.

Ciao,
Signor Broccolo.

Sacha writes
On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Cabbage you eat the leaves, broccoli you eat the flower buds.

Sounds more Italian to me.

As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
stuff is broccoli.

So is it italian for 'purple sprouting'? ;-)


--
Kay

In article ,
K writes:
|
| As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
| stuff is broccoli.
|
| So is it italian for 'purple sprouting'? ;-)

And there I have just posted an explanation!

Regards,
Signor Broccolo, il Calabrese (from Calabria).

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:47:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Sounds more Italian to me.

As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
stuff is broccoli.

Calabrese is what they call the green stuff in the farm shops in west
Cornwall, but the supermarkets down here still call it broccoli.


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

On 12/8/06 19:57, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:47:20 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Sounds more Italian to me.

As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
stuff is broccoli.

Calabrese is what they call the green stuff in the farm shops in west
Cornwall, but the supermarkets down here still call it broccoli.

Here and elsewhere, IME, it's either broccoli or purple sprouting broccoli.
It's quite unusual - again, IME - to see it called calabrese in England and
then it's always pronounced callabreeze as opposed to callabrayzay.
Probably doesn't make much difference to the flavour, however!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

On 12/8/06 17:05, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 12/8/06 11:44, in article , "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



Paul wrote
Got the taste for this vegetable lately, but is the name Broccoli just
a cockney word for cabbage?

Cabbage you eat the leaves, broccoli you eat the flower buds.

Sounds more Italian to me.

As in Cubby? ;-) The green stuff is calabrese in Italian, the purple
stuff is broccoli.

So is it italian for 'purple sprouting'? ;-)

Of course. Unless you prefer viola spuntare! ;-))
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

In article , Sacha writes:
|
| Calabrese is what they call the green stuff in the farm shops in west
| Cornwall, but the supermarkets down here still call it broccoli.
|
| Here and elsewhere, IME, it's either broccoli or purple sprouting broccoli.
| It's quite unusual - again, IME - to see it called calabrese in England and
| then it's always pronounced callabreeze as opposed to callabrayzay.
| Probably doesn't make much difference to the flavour, however!

Well, since broccoli has been established in English for 300 years and
calabrese for 75, that is not surprising. Here, calabrese is usually
used for the fat, watery 'summer' variety that goes yellow and tastes
nasty after few days. Broccoli is used for the traditional, dark
green 'winter' varieties, whether in flower bud (purple or white) or
just a shoot of young leaves.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.