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We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z

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We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z


Put a fence/rope/boundary around the land with a notice that is is yours and
date it.

One of a few things will happen, either the land owner will pop up and say
"Oi it's mine" and you can tackle him (Make sure that he IS the land owner
and not someone 'claiming to be' the land owner). Or the Council will pop up
and say it's their's. Same routine applies/ Or a neighbour will challenge
you and ask questions, in which case you ask them to prove who owns it, but
leave your boundary up. Or in seven years time, it's yours and you can do
what you like, (within reason) with it and thus chop down that by now, huge
tree. Unless some rotten sod has put a TPO on it. But they can be removed
:-))

Been there.
Done that
Land now got two blocks of flats on :-))

NB. The seven years MAY have been extended.
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We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z
You first and only point of call should be your local authority!!!!! They will know to whom the land belongs to and will be able to advise you upon what action to take! Ignore any other advice on this thread. If you are devious there are numerous way to nuke the tree!
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"George.com" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out

light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z


Put a fence/rope/boundary around the land with a notice that is is yours

and
date it.

One of a few things will happen, either the land owner will pop up and

say
"Oi it's mine" and you can tackle him (Make sure that he IS the land

owner
and not someone 'claiming to be' the land owner). Or the Council will

pop
up
and say it's their's. Same routine applies/ Or a neighbour will

challenge
you and ask questions, in which case you ask them to prove who owns it,

but
leave your boundary up. Or in seven years time, it's yours and you can

do
what you like, (within reason) with it and thus chop down that by now,

huge
tree. Unless some rotten sod has put a TPO on it. But they can be

removed

Mike. That is an interesting process. What is the history behind such
legalities?

rob


Unable to say exactly the correct situation, but both myself by a previous
house owner, and my sister by a previous house owner have had land attached
to our properties. In my sister's case, the bit of land extra, brought the
total area to one acre and they called the house 'Stealacre'!! She sold it a
few years back and 3 or 4 more houses have been built on it.

My piece of land was half an acre joined on.

Did a google search and came up with the following. I have not read all of
it but it directs you to various places.

Good luck :-))

As Mark Twain siad, 'Buy land, they ain't making any more' :-))

http://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1755&

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Wrote:
We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z


You first and only point of call should be your local authority!!!!!
They will know to whom the land belongs to and will be able to advise
you upon what action to take! Ignore any other advice on this thread.
If you are devious there are numerous way to nuke the tree!




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An Oasis without much knowledge and unable to read what the original

poster said either.

Might I respectfully suggest that you read what the OP said about
'ownership' and then read what was said about situations where land has been
taken and joined onto other's existing land.

I am so terribly sorry that my posting did not seem to cover the situation
as I understood it, perhaps you would be so kind as to tell all the readers
why my advice should be ignored.

Your words of wisdom will be eagerly watched for.
Do have a nice day

Mike
waiting to see where previous owners of family houses were so wrong.


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If you take care of the land for a period of time (cannot precise) as
if it was yours, thinking it was yours and no one complais then you are
entitle to consider it yours and register it as yours... of course
there are some technical details, but it possible.

In the worst case scenario, the owner will appear and your problem is
solved, in the best scenario you should invite us all to a BBQ in your
new piece of garden

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"P. Alves" wrote in message
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If you take care of the land for a period of time (cannot precise) as
if it was yours, thinking it was yours and no one complais then you are
entitle to consider it yours and register it as yours... of course
there are some technical details, but it possible.

In the worst case scenario, the owner will appear and your problem is
solved, in the best scenario you should invite us all to a BBQ in your
new piece of garden


I believe it was seven years but I have a funny feeling this has been
extended to ten. My advice is go for it. NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL to lose, a
bigger garden to gain.

:-))

Mike
Been there
Done that
Got the tee shirt
AND the bigger garden thank you :-))

so did my Kid Sister :-))

Thanks to previous owners :-))))



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Put a fence/rope/boundary around the land with a notice that is is yours
and
date it.


Our old neighbours back in Nottingham did that with half an acre of land
behind their bungalow. It was unused for many years and there was no
apparent owner. I'm not sure of the technicalities involved but after a
number of years they were able to stake a claim on it and have it registered
as theirs. Potentially it is worth a fortune now if planning permissions
were granted on it. Since it is already surrounded on all sides by houses
anyway and in a residential area the only problem would be access, but with
the demolition of a couple of properties there would be room for a modest
housing development, particularly at today's high densities where everyone
stares out of their windows straight back into someone else's - one of the
reasons we moved to France - no "neighbours" and an acre of garden :-)
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Put a fence/rope/boundary around the land with a notice that is is yours
and
date it.


Since it is already surrounded on all sides by houses
anyway and in a residential area the only problem would be access, but

with
the demolition of a couple of properties there would be room for a modest
housing development,


Ours was the same, EXCEPT that just one property had a wide garden. Wide
enough to run a road in :-))

'And as if by magic' that property came up for sale :-))

Bought it and the rest is history and if anyone wants to google the site,
put "St Mary's Ct LE5 1JA" into google maps and you will see what I mean.

Any questions?

Mike
The truth will prevail :-))


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"Mike" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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We have a big tree over looking our garden which is blocking out light,
view etc. Nobody seems to own the land that the tree is on ( We have
tried the land registry) and nobody seems to know what sort of tree it
is!
We would love to know what variety of the tree is and how best to
"top"it and "trim" it.

Anybody that could help I can send a photograph.

Regards
Z


Put a fence/rope/boundary around the land with a notice that is is yours

and
date it.

One of a few things will happen, either the land owner will pop up and say
"Oi it's mine" and you can tackle him (Make sure that he IS the land owner
and not someone 'claiming to be' the land owner). Or the Council will pop

up
and say it's their's. Same routine applies/ Or a neighbour will challenge
you and ask questions, in which case you ask them to prove who owns it,

but
leave your boundary up. Or in seven years time, it's yours and you can do
what you like, (within reason) with it and thus chop down that by now,

huge
tree. Unless some rotten sod has put a TPO on it. But they can be removed


Mike. That is an interesting process. What is the history behind such
legalities?

rob


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I think 12 years.
"Mike" wrote in message
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"P. Alves" wrote in message
ups.com...
If you take care of the land for a period of time (cannot precise) as
if it was yours, thinking it was yours and no one complais then you are
entitle to consider it yours and register it as yours... of course
there are some technical details, but it possible.

In the worst case scenario, the owner will appear and your problem is
solved, in the best scenario you should invite us all to a BBQ in your
new piece of garden


I believe it was seven years but I have a funny feeling this has been
extended to ten. My advice is go for it. NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL to lose,
a
bigger garden to gain.

:-))

Mike
Been there
Done that
Got the tee shirt
AND the bigger garden thank you :-))

so did my Kid Sister :-))

Thanks to previous owners :-))))



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