"Janet Baraclough" wrote

I am extremely sorry to read in the raspberries thread that two of its
most longterm contributors, Judith Lea and Sacha Hubbard have left urg
because they are no longer prepared to tolerate the appalling level of
lies, abuse, and threats made against them.

Those who stood by and said nothing should be ashamed, particularly
those who counted both as friends in real life, or have been the
recipients of their legendary generosity with plants, time and
hospitality.


I have not followed the "Raspberry " thread and anyway like others around
here I "turn off" at the first sign of personal fighting, life's too short
and too much of a struggle already, so this is the first I've heard of this
tragedy.

The leaving of both Sacha (with Ray in the background too) and Judith will
be a great loss to URG and internet gardening in general, and now Dave Poole
intimates he is going too. How many more experienced and knowledgeable
gardeners are to be driven out, sad day, very sad day.

--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote

I am extremely sorry to read in the raspberries thread that two of its
most longterm contributors, Judith Lea and Sacha Hubbard have left urg
because they are no longer prepared to tolerate the appalling level of
lies, abuse, and threats made against them.

Those who stood by and said nothing should be ashamed, particularly
those who counted both as friends in real life, or have been the
recipients of their legendary generosity with plants, time and
hospitality.


I have not followed the "Raspberry " thread and anyway like others around
here I "turn off" at the first sign of personal fighting, life's too short
and too much of a struggle already, so this is the first I've heard of
this
tragedy.

The leaving of both Sacha (with Ray in the background too) and Judith will
be a great loss to URG and internet gardening in general, and now Dave
Poole
intimates he is going too. How many more experienced and knowledgeable
gardeners are to be driven out, sad day, very sad day.


All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams

....



--
Regards
Bob H
17mls W. of London.UK

"michael adams" wrote in message
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All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams


Which they should have done a long time ago with their personal and private
kissy kissy messages instead of using this newsgroup as 'their' message
board and discuss property ownership overseas and visiting each other as a
couple of examples along with the continual advert 'for my husband's Garden
Centre' and lush Cream Teas. There was even a plug for the Tea Room and the
books therein a couple of days ago :-((

Mike


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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

"Mike" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote in message
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All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams


Which they should have done a long time ago with their personal and
private kissy kissy messages instead of using this newsgroup as 'their'
message board and discuss property ownership overseas and visiting each
other as a couple of examples along with the continual advert 'for my
husband's Garden Centre' and lush Cream Teas. There was even a plug for
the Tea Room and the books therein a couple of days ago :-((

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

And what about your advertisements for your 'shipmates' in every post, and
your boasts about you son in law's Rolls?
This is the first time I have EVER sent a rude message on the internet, but
I am using it to say that you are a nasty, spiteful little man. You have
never contributed anything about gardening, you just use this group to be
rude to people.

"FairySnow" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote in message
...


All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams


Which they should have done a long time ago with their personal and
private kissy kissy messages instead of using this newsgroup as 'their'
message board and discuss property ownership overseas and visiting each
other as a couple of examples along with the continual advert 'for my
husband's Garden Centre' and lush Cream Teas. There was even a plug for
the Tea Room and the books therein a couple of days ago :-((

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

And what about your advertisements for your 'shipmates' in every post, and
your boasts about you son in law's Rolls?
This is the first time I have EVER sent a rude message on the internet,
but I am using it to say that you are a nasty, spiteful little man. You
have never contributed anything about gardening, you just use this group
to be rude to people.




"FairySnow"

A nice new poster :-))

I wonder who you are, popping up in a 'new' disguise????

Hubbard come back already?

:-))

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

"Mike" wrote in message
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"FairySnow" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote in message
...


All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams


Which they should have done a long time ago with their personal and
private kissy kissy messages instead of using this newsgroup as 'their'
message board and discuss property ownership overseas and visiting each
other as a couple of examples along with the continual advert 'for my
husband's Garden Centre' and lush Cream Teas. There was even a plug for
the Tea Room and the books therein a couple of days ago :-((

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

And what about your advertisements for your 'shipmates' in every post,
and your boasts about you son in law's Rolls?
This is the first time I have EVER sent a rude message on the internet,
but I am using it to say that you are a nasty, spiteful little man. You
have never contributed anything about gardening, you just use this group
to be rude to people.




"FairySnow"

A nice new poster :-))

I wonder who you are, popping up in a 'new' disguise????

Hubbard come back already?

:-))

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

I have been reading this group for six months and I have learned a lot from
Sacha and Judith. I have learned nothing at all from you except how rude and
spiteful you are. If you know anything about gardening you certainly haven't
shown it or helped anyone. You accused Sacha of advertising and showing off,
but that is exactly what you do with every post and you failed to deny it
because you can't.
I will look at this group again in a few weeks to see if it has improved,
but until then you will not hear from me again. You really are a nasty,
nasty piece of work. I expect you are cruel to animals too.

"FairySnow" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in message
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"FairySnow" wrote in message
...

"Mike" wrote in message
...
"michael adams" wrote in message
...


All these people who've signalled their intention to leave have
no doubt got plenty of friends on this NewsGroup, who will be happy
to email them I'm sure, once this present pestilence is past.


michael adams


Which they should have done a long time ago with their personal and
private kissy kissy messages instead of using this newsgroup as 'their'
message board and discuss property ownership overseas and visiting each
other as a couple of examples along with the continual advert 'for my
husband's Garden Centre' and lush Cream Teas. There was even a plug for
the Tea Room and the books therein a couple of days ago :-((

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

And what about your advertisements for your 'shipmates' in every post,
and your boasts about you son in law's Rolls?
This is the first time I have EVER sent a rude message on the internet,
but I am using it to say that you are a nasty, spiteful little man. You
have never contributed anything about gardening, you just use this group
to be rude to people.




"FairySnow"

A nice new poster :-))

I wonder who you are, popping up in a 'new' disguise????

Hubbard come back already?

:-))

Mike


--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com

I have been reading this group for six months and I have learned a lot
from
Sacha and Judith. I have learned nothing at all from you except how rude
and
spiteful you are. If you know anything about gardening you certainly
haven't
shown it or helped anyone. You accused Sacha of advertising and showing
off,
but that is exactly what you do with every post and you failed to deny it
because you can't.
I will look at this group again in a few weeks to see if it has improved,
but until then you will not hear from me again. You really are a nasty,
nasty piece of work. I expect you are cruel to animals too.

Please, please, please, ignore him, do not rise to the bait, that is what
he, and other enjoy, that people respond to them.

Alan

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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The leaving of both Sacha (with Ray in the background too) and Judith will
be a great loss to URG and internet gardening in general, and now Dave
Poole intimates he is going too. How many more experienced and
knowledgeable gardeners are to be driven out, sad day, very sad day.

Well, as a very wise man once said to me, on his resignation, "Mary, the
graveyards are full of indispensable people ... "

Mary

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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The leaving of both Sacha (with Ray in the background too) and Judith
will be a great loss to URG and internet gardening in general, and now
Dave Poole intimates he is going too. How many more experienced and
knowledgeable gardeners are to be driven out, sad day, very sad day.

Well, as a very wise man once said to me, on his resignation, "Mary, the
graveyards are full of indispensable people ... "

That is true, but both of these people have made valuable contributions to
this group, and it is a great pity they have been driven out by an ignorant
few.

Alan


Mary