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June Hughes 18-10-2006 08:52 PM

la puce and Judith
 
I have just received an email which suggests that Helene has said I have
emailed things to her about Judith. I have known Judith a very long
time on the internet and would not do such a thing. I have sympathised
with Helene in the past because I think people have got at her
unnecessarily but why bring Judith into it? If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.
--
June Hughes

La Puce 18-10-2006 09:22 PM

la puce and Judith
 

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof. I honestly don't have any time
for this woman any longer and that's what drives her mad. She only wish
I'd do something that she could hang on to. She started talking about
my company - I riposted about hers. Only fair. The problem is that she
just doesn't want to stop. When I was having grief by Janet, she
emailed me a nice email to put myself together and ignore her. It was
nice, but I felt she was 'ordering' me about. When we had further rows,
she emailed me again with a kind of maternal tone ... I didn't reply. I
then felt she was a little strange ....

She emailed me as you've seen - and that's that. I've forwarded her
email last week to two people in here because frankly I thought it was
really over the top. She rang my office many times June. I've had to
informed everybody to ignore her. I even rang my old colleagues in
London, just in case.

Be friendly with her by no means, but let me out of this sinister
drama. It's getting very silly. I've said lots of things and I don't
regret a word, not a single word. The rude words that came out of Sacha
are absolutely not in line with what I meant. I'm not like that. Never.

And I'm sadden to see that it's gone so far actually. Sadden to see
nice chaps like Dave Poole and others feeling a little at the deep end
with the RIP title Janet gave to her thread.

Honestly. Nobody has died. Lets move on. Please lets get on, simply
lets get on....
Don't get involved please June. I'm done with this now. Truly I am.


June Hughes 18-10-2006 10:15 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.

Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.
--
June Hughes

June Hughes 18-10-2006 10:21 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof. I honestly don't have any time
for this woman any longer and that's what drives her mad. She only wish
I'd do something that she could hang on to. She started talking about
my company - I riposted about hers. Only fair. The problem is that she
just doesn't want to stop. When I was having grief by Janet, she
emailed me a nice email to put myself together and ignore her. It was
nice, but I felt she was 'ordering' me about. When we had further rows,
she emailed me again with a kind of maternal tone ... I didn't reply. I
then felt she was a little strange ....

She emailed me as you've seen - and that's that. I've forwarded her
email last week to two people in here because frankly I thought it was
really over the top. She rang my office many times June. I've had to
informed everybody to ignore her. I even rang my old colleagues in
London, just in case.

Be friendly with her by no means, but let me out of this sinister
drama. It's getting very silly. I've said lots of things and I don't
regret a word, not a single word. The rude words that came out of Sacha
are absolutely not in line with what I meant. I'm not like that. Never.

And I'm sadden to see that it's gone so far actually. Sadden to see
nice chaps like Dave Poole and others feeling a little at the deep end
with the RIP title Janet gave to her thread.

Honestly. Nobody has died. Lets move on. Please lets get on, simply
lets get on....
Don't get involved please June. I'm done with this now. Truly I am.

I am now very confused.
--
June Hughes

La Puce 18-10-2006 10:42 PM

la puce and Judith
 

June Hughes wrote:
I am now very confused.


But who emailed you that I've said things about Judith to you?! Who?!


Sally Thompson[_1_] 18-10-2006 11:17 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.

Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK



June Hughes 19-10-2006 08:30 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.

June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.

Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


Yes, of course my email address is valid. Judith already has it. I am
given to understand that a series of emails have been circulated stating
that I am 'in cahoots' (to use one person's phrase) with Puce. I have
not had the advantage of seeing any of them. I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.
--
June Hughes

[email protected] 19-10-2006 09:06 AM

la puce and Judith
 

June Hughes wrote:

In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.

June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.
Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


Yes, of course my email address is valid. Judith already has it. I am
given to understand that a series of emails have been circulated stating
that I am 'in cahoots' (to use one person's phrase) with Puce. I have
not had the advantage of seeing any of them. I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


The only thing to do with Helene is to completely ignore her. Please
see demon.local subject "typoglycemia". She was a major contributor
to the demise of sensible correspondence in that newsgroup.


June Hughes 19-10-2006 09:18 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In message . com,
writes

June Hughes wrote:



Yes, of course my email address is valid. Judith already has it. I am
given to understand that a series of emails have been circulated stating
that I am 'in cahoots' (to use one person's phrase) with Puce. I have
not had the advantage of seeing any of them. I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


The only thing to do with Helene is to completely ignore her. Please
see demon.local subject "typoglycemia". She was a major contributor
to the demise of sensible correspondence in that newsgroup.

That doesn't help me and the correspondence that has been going on
between other contributors behind my back. They seem to have managed to
do to urg what the trolls could not.
--
June Hughes

June Hughes 19-10-2006 09:25 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.

June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.

Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


I have now found Judith's email address on my system but am really now
no longer interested in emailing her after I found out about the recent
group of emails written about me.
--
June Hughes

Sacha[_1_] 19-10-2006 10:57 AM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19/10/06 08:30, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.

June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.
Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


Yes, of course my email address is valid. Judith already has it. I am
given to understand that a series of emails have been circulated stating
that I am 'in cahoots' (to use one person's phrase) with Puce.


There has been NO series of emails circulated about you. Quite the
contrary! Only one person has contacted Judith about you - Puke.

It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her. She has named those people to Judith and you are
one of them. I TOLD YOU THAT PLAINLY.

The ONLY person who has been emailing anyone else about you is Puke. There
is no 'group' discussing you. Puke has betrayed your part in this entire
saga to Judith. If you go after anyone, it should be Puke but I expect
you're too scared she'll publish your emails here.

YOU have emailed ME at leas 6 times, asking me to pass on messages to Judith
and I have, at her request, sent you Judith's replies. I told you, as I
have told one other co-conspirator of yours and Puke's, that Judith will not
receive or send emails to any of the people Puke has named to her. She is
very shaken and distressed by the slurs Puke has put upon her and wants
nothing to do with the sort of people that make a friend out of something
like Puke. I can't blame her.

snip

Wriggle how you like, you and Puke and your other correspondents are
responsible for what has happened to this group. But don't lie and pretend
there has been a group discussing you. Look to Puke to see who has let you
down. Good bye and good luck. You need it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


June Hughes 19-10-2006 11:13 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In message , Sacha
writes

There has been NO series of emails circulated about you. Quite the
contrary! Only one person has contacted Judith about you - Puke.

You sent me copies of two emails you had received from Judith - both
about me.
It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her. She has named those people to Judith and you are
one of them. I TOLD YOU THAT PLAINLY.

The ONLY person who has been emailing anyone else about you is Puke. There
is no 'group' discussing you. Puke has betrayed your part in this entire
saga to Judith. If you go after anyone, it should be Puke but I expect
you're too scared she'll publish your emails here.


Wriggle how you like, you and Puke and your other correspondents are
responsible for what has happened to this group. But don't lie and pretend
there has been a group discussing you. Look to Puke to see who has let you
down. Good bye and good luck. You need it.

I thought you had left?
--
June Hughes

June Hughes 19-10-2006 11:16 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In message , Stan The Man
writes
In article , June Hughes
wrote:

I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


It is certainly possible to sue for e-mail libel (Norwich Union were
famously fined £450,000 a few years ago because an employee libelled a
competitor in an e-mail) -- but your adviser should be ditched if
he/she is telling you to go ahead and sue. The cost of bringing a libel
case would be huge and you have no guarantee of success, or that the
defendant can afford to pay your costs, let alone the damages (small as
they would be unless you are Norwich Union).

Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha at
present, I really don't think that is enough. I am heartily sick of all
this squabbling between these people and have been marking several
threads here as read without opening them until yesterday evening when I
returned home from work to find an email from Sacha enclosing a copy of
the first email from Judith to her.
--
June Hughes

Stan The Man 19-10-2006 11:31 AM

la puce and Judith
 
In article , June Hughes
wrote:

I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


It is certainly possible to sue for e-mail libel (Norwich Union were
famously fined £450,000 a few years ago because an employee libelled a
competitor in an e-mail) -- but your adviser should be ditched if
he/she is telling you to go ahead and sue. The cost of bringing a libel
case would be huge and you have no guarantee of success, or that the
defendant can afford to pay your costs, let alone the damages (small as
they would be unless you are Norwich Union).

Sacha[_1_] 19-10-2006 11:43 AM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19/10/06 11:16, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Stan The Man
writes
In article , June Hughes
wrote:

I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back. That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


It is certainly possible to sue for e-mail libel (Norwich Union were
famously fined £450,000 a few years ago because an employee libelled a
competitor in an e-mail) -- but your adviser should be ditched if
he/she is telling you to go ahead and sue. The cost of bringing a libel
case would be huge and you have no guarantee of success, or that the
defendant can afford to pay your costs, let alone the damages (small as
they would be unless you are Norwich Union).

Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha at
present, I really don't think that is enough. I am heartily sick of all
this squabbling between these people and have been marking several
threads here as read without opening them until yesterday evening when I
returned home from work to find an email from Sacha enclosing a copy of
the first email from Judith to her.


Which Judith asked me to send you, telling you she would take no emails from
you, as you have been working against her 'and others' behind her their
backs and with Puke.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Sacha[_1_] 19-10-2006 11:43 AM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19/10/06 11:13, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes

There has been NO series of emails circulated about you. Quite the
contrary! Only one person has contacted Judith about you - Puke.

You sent me copies of two emails you had received from Judith - both
about me.


Yes, telling you that it is your friend, Puke, who has emailed Judith about
you. Be careful, June, you're tying yourself in yet more knots. I still
have all the emails to and from you and am filing them. You see, I don't
trust you either.

It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her. She has named those people to Judith and you are
one of them. I TOLD YOU THAT PLAINLY.

The ONLY person who has been emailing anyone else about you is Puke. There
is no 'group' discussing you. Puke has betrayed your part in this entire
saga to Judith. If you go after anyone, it should be Puke but I expect
you're too scared she'll publish your emails here.


Wriggle how you like, you and Puke and your other correspondents are
responsible for what has happened to this group. But don't lie and pretend
there has been a group discussing you. Look to Puke to see who has let you
down. Good bye and good luck. You need it.

I thought you had left?


Oh, there's always room for an encore in the interests of honesty and urg.
So, bad luck:



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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


June Hughes 19-10-2006 01:20 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 19/10/06 11:16, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Stan The Man
writes
Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha at
present, I really don't think that is enough. I am heartily sick of all
this squabbling between these people and have been marking several
threads here as read without opening them until yesterday evening when I
returned home from work to find an email from Sacha enclosing a copy of
the first email from Judith to her.


Which Judith asked me to send you, telling you she would take no emails from
you, as you have been working against her 'and others' behind her their
backs and with Puke.

They are the only two I have seen. As for your other ridiculous thread
posting headers, what exactly are you intending to prove? This must be
taking an awful lot of your time. Do you actually do any work at all,
or are you a kept woman?

BTW the people who said here that you would be back were right. Exactly
what you said about Puce.
--
June Hughes

Mike 19-10-2006 01:21 PM

la puce and Judith
 
"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 19/10/06 08:30, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message et, Sally
Thompson writes
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:15:43 +0100, June Hughes wrote
(in article ):

In message .com, La
Puce writes

June Hughes wrote:
If this is untrue, I shall
be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.

June, can we take this via email please?! I haven't sent any emails.
Ask her to send them to you as a proof.
Snip

I am rather embarrassed to say, I can't find Judith's email address in
my address book, which I can't understand. I notice from another
thread
that she appears to have left urg, so hope that some kind soul will
forward this to her.


I have Judith's email address (and I'm sure so have others), but I
really
don't want to upset her any further than she has already been upset by
repeating the posting you are referring to. Is your email valid? If you
like, I can email Judith and ask her to contact you direct.


Yes, of course my email address is valid. Judith already has it. I am
given to understand that a series of emails have been circulated stating
that I am 'in cahoots' (to use one person's phrase) with Puce.


There has been NO series of emails circulated about you. Quite the
contrary! Only one person has contacted Judith about you - Puke.

It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her. She has named those people to Judith and you
are
one of them. I TOLD YOU THAT PLAINLY.

The ONLY person who has been emailing anyone else about you is Puke.
There
is no 'group' discussing you. Puke has betrayed your part in this entire
saga to Judith. If you go after anyone, it should be Puke but I expect
you're too scared she'll publish your emails here.

YOU have emailed ME at leas 6 times, asking me to pass on messages to
Judith
and I have, at her request, sent you Judith's replies. I told you, as I
have told one other co-conspirator of yours and Puke's, that Judith will
not
receive or send emails to any of the people Puke has named to her. She is
very shaken and distressed by the slurs Puke has put upon her and wants
nothing to do with the sort of people that make a friend out of something
like Puke. I can't blame her.

snip

Wriggle how you like, you and Puke and your other correspondents are
responsible for what has happened to this group. But don't lie and
pretend
there has been a group discussing you. Look to Puke to see who has let
you
down. Good bye and good luck. You need it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/



Well goodness gracious me.

Just as I said, here's Hubbard back :-))

Mike right again :-)

The truth ALWAYS prevails :-))



Mike 19-10-2006 01:32 PM

la puce and Judith
 
"June Hughes" wrote in message
...
In message , Sacha

They are the only two I have seen. As for your other ridiculous thread
posting headers, what exactly are you intending to prove? This must be
taking an awful lot of your time. Do you actually do any work at all, or
are you a kept woman?


Have you seen her posting record????? :-(( Toooooooooooooooooooo much time
on her hands.


BTW the people who said here that you would be back were right. Exactly
what you said about Puce.
--
June Hughes


The truth always prevails :-))

As I said, she is unable to leave it 'cos it's 'her newsgroup'

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com



La Puce 19-10-2006 01:34 PM

la puce and Judith
 

Sacha wrote:

Yes, telling you that it is your friend, Puke, who has emailed Judith about
you. Be careful, June, you're tying yourself in yet more knots. I still
have all the emails to and from you and am filing them. You see, I don't
trust you either.
It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her.





First I haven't emailed Judith about June beside responding to her
crazy email. Post them. Go on, I dare you to post them.

You're tying yourself in knots here Hubbard. Why would I write to
Judith about June? What for? To achieve what? When and why? Please post
your proof. We're waiting.

Second you are trying to confuse June who's sweet, but not stupid. I'm
not sure if you have realised that you've solely posted her emails to
you to ask what is happening, with no contents as well, but you
haven't posted any emails you got from Judith. That should be seen too,
if you want your story to stand.

Third I have never wrote to Judith, beside responding to her. I'd
rather have a lobotomy. The woman is spooky and I knew that months ago.
We're not meant to be friends - she's a world appart. She doesn't
garden as we know it. She just potters and asks stupid questions to
stay in touch with her friends here and organise meets and gold
sleepers evenings. So don't you even try this one on me.

Fourth and final - I'm going now. I am quite upset to see decent folks
being attacked by you. Some lovely chaps and chappettes on here are the
back bones of this group. You are not. You've poked at June before and
you know that she cannot handle things like this. You're cruel Hubbard
and a manipulative cow if I may add. See, no mention of labias, sorry
there.

What I've realised whilst you've been gone for a couple of errr ....
hours, it's that who I've missed the most is Ray, your husband :o))

As I've said to a few of you, I'm taking a break from urg. See you all
in the spring where I'm sure I'll enjoy reading some of you folks
again. And Hubbard, don't be a bullie. Post your proofs. Some are
waiting to find out the truth.

A bientot.


June Hughes 19-10-2006 01:46 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message om, La
Puce writes

Sacha wrote:

Yes, telling you that it is your friend, Puke, who has emailed Judith about
you. Be careful, June, you're tying yourself in yet more knots. I still
have all the emails to and from you and am filing them. You see, I don't
trust you either.
It is Puke who told Judith that several people have discussed Judith 'and
others' by email with her.





First I haven't emailed Judith about June beside responding to her
crazy email. Post them. Go on, I dare you to post them.

You're tying yourself in knots here Hubbard. Why would I write to
Judith about June? What for? To achieve what? When and why? Please post
your proof. We're waiting.

Second you are trying to confuse June who's sweet, but not stupid. I'm
not sure if you have realised that you've solely posted her emails to
you to ask what is happening, with no contents as well, but you
haven't posted any emails you got from Judith. That should be seen too,
if you want your story to stand.

Third I have never wrote to Judith, beside responding to her. I'd
rather have a lobotomy. The woman is spooky and I knew that months ago.
We're not meant to be friends - she's a world appart. She doesn't
garden as we know it. She just potters and asks stupid questions to
stay in touch with her friends here and organise meets and gold
sleepers evenings. So don't you even try this one on me.

Fourth and final - I'm going now. I am quite upset to see decent folks
being attacked by you. Some lovely chaps and chappettes on here are the
back bones of this group. You are not. You've poked at June before and
you know that she cannot handle things like this.


That is where you are wrong.
snip
--
June Hughes

Sacha[_1_] 19-10-2006 01:53 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19/10/06 13:20, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 19/10/06 11:16, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Stan The Man
writes
Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha at
present, I really don't think that is enough. I am heartily sick of all
this squabbling between these people and have been marking several
threads here as read without opening them until yesterday evening when I
returned home from work to find an email from Sacha enclosing a copy of
the first email from Judith to her.


Which Judith asked me to send you, telling you she would take no emails from
you, as you have been working against her 'and others' behind her their
backs and with Puke.

They are the only two I have seen.


Do you think twisting the truth is going to get you out of this? I
forwarded to you every email Judith asked me to send. But you know and I
know that I have received god alone knows how many from you, clearly
panicking and twisting in the wind and hoping to use me as a conduit to
Judith. This morning your tone changed 100% from regret and a hope to make
things better to your usual belligerence when you can't get your own way and
are shown up as you are. IOW, your computer and Puke's must have been white
hot last night and early this morning, while you were instructed on what to
say and how to wiggle out of your part in the vicious behaviour meted out to
me, Judith and Janet. You're in this up to your neck and you know it.

As for your other ridiculous thread
posting headers, what exactly are you intending to prove? This must be
taking an awful lot of your time. Do you actually do any work at all,
or are you a kept woman?


Nobody keeps me, June. Let's just say there's no need for that.
But how seriously common of you - a qualified accountant, I believe - to
query how other people fund their lives. Unethical too, I shouldn't wonder,
especially on a public newsgroup. I wonder what your professional body
would think of such things - breaches of confidence aren't smiled upon in
your job, are they?

BTW the people who said here that you would be back were right. Exactly
what you said about Puce.


Amazing. No wonder you told me in email that you wouldn't repudiate what
Puke has said on here - you can't. She really has got you over a barrel.

Puke came back to lie and swear to at and about someone I respect and like
very much. So I'm here only to make sure you don't get away with your lie
that you are the victim of an email conspiracy and that Judith is turned, by
you, into a villain. There is no such conspiracy because to be honest,
you're just not that important.
It's amazing how you always have to portray yourself that way and take the
starring role - unsuccessfully. Your reputation for starting email
correspondences with people, working your way from conciliatory to
belligerent and thus to "don't speak to me again" is absolutely legendary -
and here we are, you're doing it again. Perhaps you've been instructed to
draw the flak away from Puke.......
Don't worry, I'll leave the giving of gardening advice to you and Puke.
Should be worth a ringside seat.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


Sacha[_1_] 19-10-2006 02:26 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19/10/06 13:34, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:


A bientot.

Until the next sock pops up. I wonder how June knew to tell me last night
that Puce would be leaving urg soon.........
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


June Hughes 19-10-2006 02:44 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message , Sacha
writes
On 19/10/06 13:20, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 19/10/06 11:16, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message , Stan The Man
writes
Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha at
present, I really don't think that is enough. I am heartily sick of all
this squabbling between these people and have been marking several
threads here as read without opening them until yesterday evening when I
returned home from work to find an email from Sacha enclosing a copy of
the first email from Judith to her.

Which Judith asked me to send you, telling you she would take no emails from
you, as you have been working against her 'and others' behind her their
backs and with Puke.

They are the only two I have seen.


Do you think twisting the truth is going to get you out of this? I
forwarded to you every email Judith asked me to send.

I have received only two containing Judith's mails to you. So you are
lying, aren't you?
But you know and I
know that I have received god alone knows how many from you, clearly
panicking and twisting in the wind and hoping to use me as a conduit to
Judith. This morning your tone changed 100% from regret

I regret and have regretted nothing.
and a hope to make
things better to your usual belligerence when you can't get your own way and
are shown up as you are.

Excuse me? The only person who is being shown up is you. You came over
to uk.food+drink.misc last week being all friendly and asked for a
recipe. I gave one to you and you were still friendly. What a fool I
was to think you would continue in that vein.
IOW, your computer and Puke's must have been white
hot last night and early this morning,

On the contrary, I turned off my computer and went out, just as I told
you I was going to.

while you were instructed on what to
say

No-one instructs me what to say. Can't you see what a fool you are
making of yourself?
and how to wiggle out of your part in the vicious behaviour meted out to
me, Judith and Janet. You're in this up to your neck and you know it.

I am not. I have done nothing to, and emailed nothing about Judith to
anyone except you last evening. There has been no reason for me to do
so.

As for your other ridiculous thread
posting headers, what exactly are you intending to prove? This must be
taking an awful lot of your time. Do you actually do any work at all,
or are you a kept woman?


Nobody keeps me, June. Let's just say there's no need for that.
But how seriously common of you - a qualified accountant, I believe - to
query how other people fund their lives. Unethical too, I shouldn't wonder,
especially on a public newsgroup.

Not at all.
I wonder what your professional body
would think of such things - breaches of confidence aren't smiled upon in
your job, are they?

You are now on very dangerous ground. I have breached no confidences at
all. Are you really as unintelligent as you make out? My professional
body has ways of dealing with people like you.

BTW the people who said here that you would be back were right. Exactly
what you said about Puce.


Amazing. No wonder you told me in email that you wouldn't repudiate what
Puke has said on here - you can't. She really has got you over a barrel.

Grow up! You are a bitter and twisted , moaning nag. I can just
imagine your blood pressure boiling over as you type. You had better
calm down a bit for the sake of your health. As for your sanity, I
think there is no hope of any improvement.
Puke came back to lie and swear to at and about someone I respect and like
very much. So I'm here only to make sure you don't get away with your lie
that you are the victim of an email conspiracy and that Judith is turned, by
you, into a villain.

I am very disappointed and hurt that Judith would even think I would say
anything about her to Puce or anyone else. I emailed Judith this
morning and told her that.
There is no such conspiracy because to be honest,
you're just not that important.

And you are? That is incredible. Mrs Big!
It's amazing how you always have to portray yourself that way and take the
starring role - unsuccessfully.

G Aren't you talking about yourself there? You have always had a
penchant for being a drama queen on urg.
Your reputation for starting email
correspondences with people, working your way from conciliatory to
belligerent and thus to "don't speak to me again" is absolutely legendary -
and here we are, you're doing it again. Perhaps you've been instructed to
draw the flak away from Puke......

I understand Puce has left the group. She wrote in another thread
asking for me to divulge who the first person to write to me was. I
don't think there is any need for me to reply, do you?
.
Don't worry, I'll leave the giving of gardening advice to you and Puke.
Should be worth a ringside seat.


You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


--
June Hughes

Nemo 19-10-2006 03:09 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:53:07 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Nobody keeps me, June. Let's just say there's no need for that.
But how seriously common of you - a qualified accountant, I believe - to
query how other people fund their lives. Unethical too, I shouldn't wonder,
especially on a public newsgroup. I wonder what your professional body
would think of such things - breaches of confidence aren't smiled upon in
your job, are they?


Watch it, June, she's serious (and seriously weird)
I do not necessarily subscribe to the view that she is quite capable,
out of sheer frustrated malice, of trying to destroy you or anyone
else that crosses her but it might be advisable not to turn your back
on her in a Tesco car park/



Mike 19-10-2006 03:15 PM

la puce and Judith
 
"June Hughes" wrote in message
...

You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


--
June Hughes



and bossy?

Mike


--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com



Mike in Spain 19-10-2006 04:10 PM

la puce and Judith
 


On Oct 19, 4:15 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"June Hughes" wrote in .. .



You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


--
June Hughesand bossy?


Mike

--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rnshipmates.co.ukwww.nsrafa.com


Incidentally, you complain about Sachas' posts containg her business
web sites, but, forgive me if I'm wrong, don't all yours, as above.

Mike (never in the Navy)


Mike 19-10-2006 04:32 PM

la puce and Judith
 

"Mike in Spain" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Oct 19, 4:15 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"June Hughes" wrote in
.. .



You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


--
June Hughesand bossy?


Mike

--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch
Associationwww.rnshipmates.co.ukwww.nsrafa.com


Incidentally, you complain about Sachas' posts containg her business
web sites, but, forgive me if I'm wrong, don't all yours, as above.

Mike (never in the Navy)


I don't post with the aim of making money.

I am retired and do this as a hobby which actually COSTS me money, but I do
give others pleasure when they find their old friends and shipmates AND,
now, because I am involved with the RAF (ask Hubbard all about that. She has
it wrong but to her that is of no consequence), I am giving them the chance
to find those they served with as well.

Now if you see that as something wrong. I feel very very sorry for you.

If you live in Eastbourne, watch your local press to see how I stand up for
the ex Service people.

Making money? I already pay tax on my pension so do not wish to 'make
more'. Ask Hubbard why she posts with her Market Garden advert is in her sig
time after time after time after time after time etc etc etc

And then come back and explain :-(((

Anything else to say?

Mike

--
.................................................. .........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
www.rnshipmates.co.uk
www.nsrafa.com



June Hughes 19-10-2006 04:50 PM

la puce and Judith
 
In message , Mike
writes



I don't post with the aim of making money.

I am retired and do this as a hobby which actually COSTS me money, but I do
give others pleasure when they find their old friends and shipmates AND,
now, because I am involved with the RAF (ask Hubbard all about that. She has
it wrong but to her that is of no consequence), I am giving them the chance
to find those they served with as well.

Now if you see that as something wrong. I feel very very sorry for you.

If you live in Eastbourne, watch your local press to see how I stand up for
the ex Service people.

Making money? I already pay tax on my pension so do not wish to 'make
more'. Ask Hubbard why she posts with her Market Garden advert is in her sig
time after time after time after time after time etc etc etc

I thought the charter said you can post your website, business email
address etc in your sig.? I know Sacha has been nasty to me lately but
am sure that in this case, she has done nothing wrong. I remember many
years ago Sacha having the Garden Pharmacy in her sig but that is
different and was a long time ago. Just like when Puce claimed to be a
company director and turned out to be just that.
--
June Hughes

Nemo 19-10-2006 05:08 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On 19 Oct 2006 08:10:40 -0700, "Mike in Spain"
wrote:



On Oct 19, 4:15 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"June Hughes" wrote in .. .

You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


June Hughesand bossy?


Mike

Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rnshipmates.co.ukwww.nsrafa.com


Incidentally, you complain about Sachas' posts containg her business
web sites, but, forgive me if I'm wrong, don't all yours, as above.

Mike (never in the Navy)



Forgive me, have I missed something? Or have you?

Is the website you cite trying to get you to buy something?

Sacha advertises. Mike (in the Navy) seems merely to be sharing a
non-commercial site with anyone of like interest.

Does the difference escape you? or is everything the sainted Sacha
does automatically handed down as inscriptions on stone tablets by the
ancients?


Nemo


Nemo 19-10-2006 05:09 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:32:35 +0100, "Mike" wrote:

They are the only two I have seen. As for your other ridiculous thread
posting headers, what exactly are you intending to prove? This must be
taking an awful lot of your time. Do you actually do any work at all, or
are you a kept woman?


Have you seen her posting record????? :-(( Toooooooooooooooooooo much time
on her hands.


BTW the people who said here that you would be back were right. Exactly
what you said about Puce.
--
June Hughes


The truth always prevails :-))

As I said, she is unable to leave it 'cos it's 'her newsgroup'


Do you really think she'll let herself be chased out of "her"
news-group by a few peasants and commoners with no respect for their
betters?

Anyway she'll be back alright, probably threatening legal action
against all traitors, rebels and dissenters, she's got nothing else to
do. Perhaps Jersey could be paid to take her back, or better still
Calcutta, where I'm sure she would be treasured.

Nemo


Dementor[_1_] 19-10-2006 07:29 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:26:01 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/10/06 13:34, in article
om, "La Puce"
wrote:


A bientot.

Until the next sock pops up. I wonder how June knew to tell me last night
that Puce would be leaving urg soon.........


You are not authorised to access this information.
Please format:c:/and reboot.


--
Dementor

You are not alone

Phil L 19-10-2006 09:06 PM

la puce and Judith
 
June Hughes wrote:
I have just received an email which suggests that Helene has said I
have emailed things to her about Judith. I have known Judith a very
long time on the internet and would not do such a thing. I have
sympathised with Helene in the past because I think people have got
at her unnecessarily but why bring Judith into it? If this is
untrue, I shall be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


Who cares? - I, and I assume 99% of the other people who frequent this
froup, do so because they want to learn something or impart something
related to gardening. - what they definitely don't want is for online
catfights amongst fishwives thrust in their faces, most of which, it has to
be said are unfathomably bizzare to say the least, not making one iota of
sense to anyone but those involved.

Please take it to email.



Dementor[_1_] 19-10-2006 09:15 PM

la puce and Judith
 
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:06:04 GMT, "Phil L"
wrote:

why bring Judith into it? If this is
untrue, I shall be pleased to hear from Helene to the contrary.


Who cares? - I, and I assume 99% of the other people who frequent this
froup, do so because they want to learn something or impart something
related to gardening. - what they definitely don't want is for online
catfights amongst fishwives thrust in their faces, most of which, it has to
be said are unfathomably bizzare to say the least, not making one iota of
sense to anyone but those involved.


Well said, Sir. Bloody catty bitter old fishwives with their own
twisted agendas have no place in this arena.

--
Dementor

You are not alone

Space[_1_] 19-10-2006 10:03 PM

la puce and Judith
 

"Phil L" wrote in message news:MUQZg.38112

Please take it to email.


my thoughts were to block posters and e-mail correspondents if you don't
want to read what they say. this applies to all sorts of nonsense....inane
ramblings, unwanted SPAM, marketing updates etc.

just because someone sends you an e-mail it doesn't mean you have to read
it.

there are some intelligent people out there, I'm sure, who have the time to
spend on their computers but not the time to manage their time by using
their computers.

FILTER FILTER FILTER



K 19-10-2006 11:39 PM

la puce and Judith
 
Stan The Man writes
In article , June Hughes
wrote:

It is certainly possible to sue for e-mail libel (Norwich Union were
famously fined £450,000 a few years ago because an employee libelled a
competitor in an e-mail) -- but your adviser should be ditched if
he/she is telling you to go ahead and sue. The cost of bringing a libel
case would be huge and you have no guarantee of success, or that the
defendant can afford to pay your costs, let alone the damages (small as
they would be unless you are Norwich Union).


I thought emails were private correspondence? And that libel applied
only to published things, not for example, to comments you make in a
private letter, unless you or the recipient then publishes the letter?
--
Kay

Alan Holmes 19-10-2006 11:39 PM

la puce and Judith
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
...

Stuff deleted:-

So you have not left the newsgroup, I'm glad to see, I tried to send you an
email asking you not to abandon us, but I got the email address wrong, I do
have yur genuine email address, so do not worry about that.

Anyway, please continue to post, but I beg of you, do not get tempted into
answering bitter posts from nasty people.

Just ignore them.

Alan



Alan Holmes 19-10-2006 11:42 PM

la puce and Judith
 

In message om, La
Puce writes

stuff deleted:-

Fourth and final - I'm going now.


Thank goodness for that!

Alan




Alan Holmes 19-10-2006 11:45 PM

la puce and Judith
 

"Mike in Spain" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Oct 19, 4:15 pm, "Mike" wrote:
"June Hughes" wrote in
.. .



You are very boring and predictable. What's new?


--
June Hughesand bossy?


Mike

--
.................................................. ........
Royal Naval Electrical Branch
Associationwww.rnshipmates.co.ukwww.nsrafa.com


Incidentally, you complain about Sachas' posts containg her business
web sites, but, forgive me if I'm wrong, don't all yours, as above.

Mike (never in the Navy)


You are lucky, otherwise you might have met Mike and I wouldn't want to wish
that on anyone!

Except perhaps Puce!

Alan





Farm1 20-10-2006 12:17 AM

la puce and Judith
 
"June Hughes" wrote in message
Stan The Man writes
June wrote:

I am unsure as to the ins
and outs of the laws of libel regarding email but am very unhappy

about
what appear to be several people - mainly ladies - with too much

time on
their hands writing derogatory things about me behind my back.

That is
not what urg is about. If I find out the contents of these emails

I
shall vigorously pursue whatever legal course of action is

available to
me if they are in any way libellous, which if the person advising

me of
them is correct, I think they may be.


It is certainly possible to sue for e-mail libel (Norwich Union

were
famously fined £450,000 a few years ago because an employee

libelled a
competitor in an e-mail) -- but your adviser should be ditched if
he/she is telling you to go ahead and sue. The cost of bringing a

libel
case would be huge and you have no guarantee of success, or that

the
defendant can afford to pay your costs, let alone the damages

(small as
they would be unless you are Norwich Union).


Thank-you. As I only have copies of two emails from Judith to Sacha

at
present, I really don't think that is enough.


Get a grip! E-mails are notoriously easy to fake!




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