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Farm1 24-10-2006 11:17 AM

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"Sue" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote


I had thought that the one I had might be a parahebe catarractae -


I think my blue one only gave up the ghost because it was small and
newly planted and I probably didn't water it enough to get it
established before our hot, dry spell.


Could be. I put in a baby which struggled last year but it's coming
on again now.

The white one does cope with our
dry conditions fairly well. Sometimes it loses leaves and looks a

bit
tatty after too much summer drought or an extra cold spell in

winter,
but given a haircut when better conditions arrive and it recovers

well,
I find.


Is this a parahebe catarractae too?




Farm1 24-10-2006 11:20 AM

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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes


Do you wish to retract your rotten comments about this super

shrub?:-)))

No, mine still doesn't have a scent


:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.



Cat(h) 24-10-2006 11:57 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

JennyC wrote:
Just to make sure we are all talking about the same thing;
http://www.joycreek.com/104-001D4.htm

jenny


Oh! I was under the impression that the Himalayan Honeysuckle was in
the same category of baddies as the Japanese Knotweed? For the same
reasons? I certainly know of a few places in the SW of Ireland where
it behaves more or less in the same way!
I quite like the looks of it myself, but had steered clear because I
thought it was a thug. Am I wrong?

Cat(h)


Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 24-10-2006 12:16 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Cat(h)" wrote in message
oups.com...

JennyC wrote:
Just to make sure we are all talking about the same thing;
http://www.joycreek.com/104-001D4.htm

jenny


Oh! I was under the impression that the Himalayan Honeysuckle was in
the same category of baddies as the Japanese Knotweed? For the same
reasons? I certainly know of a few places in the SW of Ireland where
it behaves more or less in the same way!
I quite like the looks of it myself, but had steered clear because I
thought it was a thug. Am I wrong?

Cat(h)

Yes you are wrong:-) It does self seed but it's not as if the seedlings make
a jungle instantly. I am just about to dig up some Knotweed from beside a
railway line and bung it in a large pot. The canes on the stuff are more
interesting than even the most expensive bamboo.
I suppose you may take my advice with a bucket of salt cos I am the chap
that rather likes Giant Hogweed :-)



Sue[_3_] 24-10-2006 01:27 PM

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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote
"Sue" wrote in message
The white one does cope with our dry conditions fairly well.
Sometimes it loses leaves and looks a bit tatty after too much summer
drought or an extra cold spell in winter, but given a haircut when
better conditions arrive and it recovers well, I find.


Is this a parahebe catarractae too?


I couldn't for the life of me remember, but I've gone through my old
labels and found it's called Parahebe lyallii and described as a
semi-evergreen sub-shrub.

It is only a low grower so here it lives at the front of a narrow,
mostly sunny border. It's not an extrovert plant, but I like it even out
of flower because of its neat mound of little deep green leaves which
makes a nice foil to other surrounding things.

--
Sue



JennyC 24-10-2006 04:17 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes


Do you wish to retract your rotten comments about this super

shrub?:-)))

No, mine still doesn't have a scent


:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.


Can't bothered with tulips much either. Tall floppy damn things that fall
over at the slightest wind. The very low ones are OK, but I find they don't
last long and the hassle of waiting for them to die down etc is a nuisance.
I only have a small garden and they hang around for ages before you can dig
'em up. I do have a miniatures in pots, which I hide away when they are
finished.

Camellias are OK but the flowers get ratty looking.....
Jenny



Kate Morgan 24-10-2006 05:08 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 


:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.


Can't bothered with tulips much either. Tall floppy damn things that fall
over at the slightest wind. The very low ones are OK, but I find they don't
last long and the hassle of waiting for them to die down etc is a nuisance.
I only have a small garden and they hang around for ages before you can dig
'em up. I do have a miniatures in pots, which I hide away when they are
finished.

Camellias are OK but the flowers get ratty looking.....
Jenny

Yes I agree with those comments, I dont have any tulips, I do have
Camellias but only because they were a gift, good job we are all
different innit :-)

kate

JennyC 24-10-2006 07:51 PM

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"Kate Morgan" wrote
things
Camellias are OK but the flowers get ratty looking.....
Jenny

Yes I agree with those comments, I dont have any tulips, I do have
Camellias but only because they were a gift, good job we are all
different innit :-)
kate


I kept receiving PINK hydrangeas.....unfortunately I managed to let them all
die :~
Jenny



Janet Tweedy 24-10-2006 11:53 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
In article
, Farm1
writes
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" writes


Do you wish to retract your rotten comments about this super

shrub?:-)))

No, mine still doesn't have a scent


:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.




Ah but I love Salvias and oh yes, Jasmine which someone I know thinks
smells absolutely awful!
I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which plants/types of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own
personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Farm1 25-10-2006 02:20 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
Farm1
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message


No, mine still doesn't have a scent


:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when

I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I

should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.


Ah but I love Salvias and oh yes, Jasmine which someone I know

thinks
smells absolutely awful!
I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which plants/types

of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own
personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey plants

but
tropical stuff never appeals.


:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas but am
not fond of orange roses. And I don't like tropical looking plants in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.



JennyC 25-10-2006 07:36 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote

I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which plants/types of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy


LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it for me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!
Jenny



JennyC 25-10-2006 07:40 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote
Farm1 wrote in message
I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which plants/types

of garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own
personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey plants

but tropical stuff never appeals.

:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas but am
not fond of orange roses.


OH !!
They can be OK :
http://rho0ofa.jeeran.com/orange%20rose.jpeg
http://www.art-ppp.com/Orange%20Rose.jpg

And I don't like tropical looking plants in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.


Are not all tropical gardens tropical purely by being where they are ?
Jenny "~)




K 25-10-2006 08:32 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
Farm1 writes
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
Farm1
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message


No, mine still doesn't have a scent

:-)) I've enjoyed this exchange. People always think I'm odd when

I
say that I don't like either camellias or tulips. Apparently I

should
know that it's compulsory to like these plants.


Ah but I love Salvias and oh yes, Jasmine which someone I know

thinks
smells absolutely awful!
I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which plants/types

of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own
personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey plants

but
tropical stuff never appeals.


:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas but am
not fond of orange roses. And I don't like tropical looking plants in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.

I find my taste changes with season. In spring, fresh yellows. Cool
pinks and mauves in summer, then warm oranges and reds in autumn, to
tone in with the autumn leaves and ripening fruit. So an orange rose is
garish and out of place, whereas orange calendulas are good ;-)


--
Kay

Janet Tweedy 25-10-2006 10:36 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
In article .com,
"Cat(h)" writes

JennyC wrote:
Just to make sure we are all talking about the same thing;
http://www.joycreek.com/104-001D4.htm

jenny


Oh! I was under the impression that the Himalayan Honeysuckle




Did you mean Himalayan balsam? A quite attractive plant until you
realise its implications in your garden!


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Janet Tweedy 25-10-2006 11:53 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
In article , K
writes

So an orange rose is garish and out of place, whereas orange
calendulas are good ;-)


I can cope with moorheim beauty because it's got that degree of bronze
in it to take it away from the yellow part of the spectrum, I think it's
the warmer tones towards red that saves it.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Janet Tweedy 25-10-2006 11:57 AM

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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes
the deciduous
Berberis rarely take from cuttings,


Coo not half! I've almost decimated one of my thunbergii plants to get
two to strike! It became a 'me or the plant' tussle in the end but I
managed it. Strange roots too, sort of yellowish in colour.

janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

Sue[_3_] 25-10-2006 02:36 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote
In article , Nick Maclaren
writes
the deciduous Berberis rarely take from cuttings,


Coo not half! I've almost decimated one of my thunbergii plants to get
two to strike! It became a 'me or the plant' tussle in the end but I
managed it. Strange roots too, sort of yellowish in colour.


I must have been unusually (un)lucky to get atropurpurea to root, as all
I did was stick a shoot from my mother's shrub in the ground. An action
I lived to regret when it grew up to be an enormous and viciously spined
thug too big for where I'd put it. She did warn me, but did I listen? ;)

The purple-green foliage was handsome and it coloured up well in autumn,
but trying to control it and prune out old wood was a painful nightmare
so eventually it got the final chop and I dug it out. I remember those
yellow roots well!

--
Sue





Cat(h) 25-10-2006 02:51 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article .com,
"Cat(h)" writes

JennyC wrote:
Just to make sure we are all talking about the same thing;
http://www.joycreek.com/104-001D4.htm

jenny


Oh! I was under the impression that the Himalayan Honeysuckle




Did you mean Himalayan balsam? A quite attractive plant until you
realise its implications in your garden!


I have just googled that, and no, it's the plant in the photo above
that I am referring to.
The himalayan balsam is lovely to look at, I remember it used to grow
in abundance in one grove near my childhood home. We used to make bit
bunches of them, and as they seem to be made 99.9% of water, they would
wilt within minutes!

And yes, I know that too is a terrible thug.

Cat(h)


Farm1 26-10-2006 07:25 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
"JennyC" wrote in message
"Janet Tweedy" wrote

I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which

plants/types of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own

personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey

plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy


LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it for

me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!


I hate tidy gardens too but I can't quite see the connection to
tropical plants in not liking tidy gardens.



Farm1 26-10-2006 07:30 AM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
"JennyC" wrote in message
Farm1 wrote in message


:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas

but am
not fond of orange roses.


OH !!
They can be OK :
http://rho0ofa.jeeran.com/orange%20rose.jpeg


Yuck!

http://www.art-ppp.com/Orange%20Rose.jpg


Wouldn't load.

And I don't like tropical looking plants in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.


Are not all tropical gardens tropical purely by being where they are

?

No. I've seen pics of "tropical" gardens in London and all sorts of
other places. Lots of tropical style palms, musa etc and I hate the
look of them in temperate climates. It's sort of like building a
Hacienda in the middle of a bunch of Eucalypts. Just looks wrong,
wrong,wrong.



Farm1 26-10-2006 07:31 AM

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"K" wrote in message
Farm1 writes


:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas but

am
not fond of orange roses. And I don't like tropical looking plants

in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.

I find my taste changes with season. In spring, fresh yellows. Cool
pinks and mauves in summer, then warm oranges and reds in autumn, to
tone in with the autumn leaves and ripening fruit. So an orange rose

is
garish and out of place, whereas orange calendulas are good ;-)


Yes. You've captured it well. For the same reason I hate 'blue'
roses.



Janet Tweedy 26-10-2006 11:14 AM

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In article
, Farm1
writes
No. I've seen pics of "tropical" gardens in London and all sorts of
other places. Lots of tropical style palms, musa etc and I hate the
look of them in temperate climates. It's sort of like building a
Hacienda in the middle of a bunch of Eucalypts. Just looks wrong,
wrong,wrong.


Sounds like a gross generalisation but I'm afraid I do to. I would
even consider moving somewhere oop North or West if it came to the point
that climate change stopped me growing what I consider to be temperate
climes plants! I would not enjoy a gravel garden in place of a lawn, nor
spiky hard architectural plants rather than the gossamery(?) Salvia
uliginosa or Verbena bonariensis. I think there might be a place for hot
and tropical in say a formal front garden so people don't hang about
out there :) but in the back garden temperate plants makes one want to
linger and relax etc.

Can't see many of the tropical plants being that beneficial to our
wildlife either.

However it takes all sorts and I'm accidentally growing a tray of what
appears to be, cactii from a packet of seeds that some told me were
hardy plants so I need to off load them!
--
Janet Tweedy
Amersham Gardening Association
http://www.amersham-gardening.net

K 26-10-2006 12:49 PM

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Janet Tweedy writes
However it takes all sorts and I'm accidentally growing a tray of what
appears to be, cactii from a packet of seeds that some told me were
hardy plants so I need to off load them!


Depending on what they were (ie globular rather than columnar), I might
conceivably be interested ...

btw - the singular of cactii would be cactius ;-)
--
Kay

Janet Tweedy 26-10-2006 01:30 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
In article , K
writes

Depending on what they were (ie globular rather than columnar), I
might conceivably be interested ...

btw - the singular of cactii would be cactius ;-)



If I sort of trimmed them to a round shape would you notice?

They have a sort of cross shape. so if looking from the top they would
have four sort of arms (iyswim)
They are very tiny at the moment, about 2 inches but you are very
welcome to them Kay.

Not sure they'd be good at The Old Dog. Not native enough:)

janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

JennyC 26-10-2006 03:36 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , K
writes

Depending on what they were (ie globular rather than columnar), I might
conceivably be interested ...

btw - the singular of cactii would be cactius ;-)



If I sort of trimmed them to a round shape would you notice?

They have a sort of cross shape. so if looking from the top they would
have four sort of arms (iyswim)


http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/Xen...700390_691.jpg ???
If so they are 'Living stones'. They have really pretty flowers :~)
Jenny

They are very tiny at the moment, about 2 inches but you are very welcome
to them Kay.

Not sure they'd be good at The Old Dog. Not native enough:)

janet
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk




JennyC 26-10-2006 03:39 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"K" wrote in message
Farm1 writes


:-)) I think it was Hardy Amies (Queen's dressmaker) who said that
orange in roses was vulgar. I love orangey coloured Calendulas but

am
not fond of orange roses. And I don't like tropical looking plants

in
temperate gardens but would if I lived in the tropics.

I find my taste changes with season. In spring, fresh yellows. Cool
pinks and mauves in summer, then warm oranges and reds in autumn, to
tone in with the autumn leaves and ripening fruit. So an orange rose

is
garish and out of place, whereas orange calendulas are good ;-)


Yes. You've captured it well. For the same reason I hate 'blue'
roses.


I have a love of all 'weird' plants, so I have to admit to owning a 'blue'
rose :~)
Jenny



JennyC 26-10-2006 03:40 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...
"JennyC" wrote in message
"Janet Tweedy" wrote

I wonder if there's ever been a psychoanalysis of which

plants/types of
garden you like and whether this reveals a lot about your own

personality?

I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey

plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy


LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it for

me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!


I hate tidy gardens too but I can't quite see the connection to
tropical plants in not liking tidy gardens.


Tropicaltidy ?
Jenny



K 26-10-2006 08:46 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
Janet Tweedy writes
In article , K
writes

Depending on what they were (ie globular rather than columnar), I
might conceivably be interested ...

btw - the singular of cactii would be cactius ;-)



If I sort of trimmed them to a round shape would you notice?

They have a sort of cross shape. so if looking from the top they would
have four sort of arms (iyswim)
They are very tiny at the moment, about 2 inches but you are very
welcome to them Kay.


If you mean 2 inches high and only about 0.5 cm across, then sorry, no
thanks, Unless they might be Euphorbias and not cacti at all.

Not sure they'd be good at The Old Dog. Not native enough:)

janet


--
Kay

Farm1 26-10-2006 10:00 PM

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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
Farm1 writes
No. I've seen pics of "tropical" gardens in London and all sorts

of
other places. Lots of tropical style palms, musa etc and I hate

the
look of them in temperate climates. It's sort of like building a
Hacienda in the middle of a bunch of Eucalypts. Just looks wrong,
wrong,wrong.


Sounds like a gross generalisation but I'm afraid I do to.


It could be a gross generalisation but the problem is that the
architecture needs to match the locale and the plants. A terrace
house with a small narrow alley type back yard and tropical just
doesn't match. Tropical needs decks and wide windows and lots of air
movement between the house and the outside and then one could do
tropical (or tropical look alike)

I would
even consider moving somewhere oop North or West if it came to the

point
that climate change stopped me growing what I consider to be

temperate
climes plants! I would not enjoy a gravel garden in place of a lawn,

nor
spiky hard architectural plants rather than the gossamery(?) Salvia
uliginosa or Verbena bonariensis. I think there might be a place for

hot
and tropical in say a formal front garden so people don't hang

about
out there :) but in the back garden temperate plants makes one want

to
linger and relax etc.


But the real beauty of a real tropical garden is that they are very
much lingering places as they are shady and lush and cool in
comparison to the house and full of birdlife. They aren't as you say
worth lingering in when planted in a temperate climate. Too cool, too
little birdlife and just not right somehow.

But back to your mention of Verbena bonariensis: this is one plant
that does very well in gravel gardens as well as temperate cooler.
You might be interested in the following cite as it is about a very
pretty and successful dry (but frosty) garden with lots of gravel - a
bit like the Oz version of a Beth Chatto gravel garden (and I've
learned heaps from her books):
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s1063711.htm

Can't see many of the tropical plants being that beneficial to our
wildlife either.


No :-))

However it takes all sorts


Yes it does, but I see so many houses where I think could be improved
with a better and more suitable garden for the location. Improving
our house and environement is still probably the best investment that
the majority of people can make.

and I'm accidentally growing a tray of what
appears to be, cactii from a packet of seeds that some told me were
hardy plants so I need to off load them!


I like cacti but don't have many and in pots only. I have a British
born friend who has lots in his garden but he's put then in hot, hard,
hungry places and they do look good.




Farm1 26-10-2006 10:09 PM

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"JennyC" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message


Yes. You've captured it well. For the same reason I hate 'blue'
roses.


I have a love of all 'weird' plants, so I have to admit to owning a

'blue'
rose :~)


But it's in your garden not mine, so I can live with that. :-))

I'm a traditionalist with roses so I won't have any that don't have
scent and I've now also decided that I won't have any more that don't
repeat. Fantin Latour can stay but I'll get no more non repeaters.
The only odd coloured rose I'd like to be able to grow and which I
think has "Blue Moon" as a parent is "Julia's Rose" but she is just
too weak and non hardy to survive in my garden. I've tried twice and
I may as well have just have thrown my money on the street.



Farm1 26-10-2006 10:11 PM

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"JennyC" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
"JennyC" wrote in message


I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey

plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy

LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it

for
me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!


I hate tidy gardens too but I can't quite see the connection to
tropical plants in not liking tidy gardens.


Tropicaltidy ?


Not sure what the symbols mean but there are some tropical gardens
that are as tidy and as neat as the trimmed box hedges style in
temperate gardening.



K 26-10-2006 10:53 PM

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Farm1 writes
"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
Farm1 writes
No. I've seen pics of "tropical" gardens in London and all sorts

of
other places. Lots of tropical style palms, musa etc and I hate

the
look of them in temperate climates. It's sort of like building a
Hacienda in the middle of a bunch of Eucalypts. Just looks wrong,
wrong,wrong.


Sounds like a gross generalisation but I'm afraid I do to.


It could be a gross generalisation but the problem is that the
architecture needs to match the locale and the plants. A terrace
house with a small narrow alley type back yard and tropical just
doesn't match. Tropical needs decks and wide windows and lots of air
movement between the house and the outside and then one could do
tropical (or tropical look alike)


I don't know if we have the same picture of tropical, but I reckon that
if you're going to be penned in by walls, you might as well be penned in
by plants instead, therefore in that situation I'd go for the lush
overgrown look. Maybe more temperate-overgrown-with-ferns look.


But the real beauty of a real tropical garden is that they are very
much lingering places as they are shady and lush and cool in
comparison to the house and full of birdlife. They aren't as you say
worth lingering in when planted in a temperate climate. Too cool, too
little birdlife and just not right somehow.


Shady, lush and cool is still nice in a temperate climate, especially
when the weather's like last July. And you've got more chance of it
being green rather than bare in winter.


--
Kay

Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 26-10-2006 11:11 PM

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I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey
plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy

LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it

for
me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!

I hate tidy gardens too but I can't quite see the connection to
tropical plants in not liking tidy gardens.


Tropicaltidy ?


Not sure what the symbols mean but there are some tropical gardens
that are as tidy and as neat as the trimmed box hedges style in
temperate gardening.


I think it boils down to what people mean by tropical gardens. There are
many styles and in general terms folk tend to assume anything from a warmer
climate is a tropical plant. The jungle effect from lush tropicals and the
Mediterranean effect from the arid bunch such as Yuccas are the opposite
ends of the exotic spectrum.It's the arid theme that tends to start to look
tidy with the obligatory gravel and a natural look of no ground cover.
Chances are that Bananas and Tree ferns may be as common as Laurel and
Rhododendron at a future date.



Farm1 27-10-2006 12:20 AM

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"K" wrote in message
Farm1 writes


It could be a gross generalisation but the problem is that the
architecture needs to match the locale and the plants. A terrace
house with a small narrow alley type back yard and tropical just
doesn't match. Tropical needs decks and wide windows and lots of

air
movement between the house and the outside and then one could do
tropical (or tropical look alike)


I don't know if we have the same picture of tropical, but I reckon

that
if you're going to be penned in by walls, you might as well be

penned in
by plants instead, therefore in that situation I'd go for the lush
overgrown look. Maybe more temperate-overgrown-with-ferns look.


Yes I think I'd do the same. It's just as easy to get the overgrown
look with temperate plants as it is with plants that don't suit the
locale or architecture..




JennyC 27-10-2006 03:40 PM

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Yes. You've captured it well. For the same reason I hate 'blue'
roses.


I have a love of all 'weird' plants, so I have to admit to owning a

'blue'
rose :~)


But it's in your garden not mine, so I can live with that. :-))


It's actually a sort of washed out purple .....
http://www.ljconline.nl/garden/fotos...20Blue%203.JPG
Jenny

I'm a traditionalist with roses so I won't have any that don't have
scent and I've now also decided that I won't have any more that don't
repeat. Fantin Latour can stay but I'll get no more non repeaters.
The only odd coloured rose I'd like to be able to grow and which I
think has "Blue Moon" as a parent is "Julia's Rose" but she is just
too weak and non hardy to survive in my garden. I've tried twice and
I may as well have just have thrown my money on the street.






JennyC 27-10-2006 03:41 PM

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"JennyC" wrote in message
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"JennyC" wrote in message


I find yellow and orange plants disconcerting, love cottagey
plants but
tropical stuff never appeals.
Janet Tweedy

LOL :~)
I love all colours except pale ones, and tropical really does it

for
me !!
I hate tidy, regimented gardens, topiary, box hedging and lawns!

I hate tidy gardens too but I can't quite see the connection to
tropical plants in not liking tidy gardens.


Tropicaltidy ?


Not sure what the symbols mean but there are some tropical gardens
that are as tidy and as neat as the trimmed box hedges style in
temperate gardening.


Oh sorry!
different from each other .......
Jenny



Farm1 28-10-2006 02:04 AM

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"JennyC" wrote in message
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"JennyC" wrote in message


I have a love of all 'weird' plants, so I have to admit to owning

a
'blue'
rose :~)


But it's in your garden not mine, so I can live with that. :-))


It's actually a sort of washed out purple .....
http://www.ljconline.nl/garden/fotos...20Blue%203.JPG


Thanks for that link. It's an interesting colour and doesn't look at
all blue (and I would consider it if it was that colour here). The
quality of light is very differnet in the UK to my garden and plants
that can look good in the UK can look ghastly under our stronger more
glaring light.



Charlie Pridham 28-10-2006 09:40 AM

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"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
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"JennyC" wrote in message
"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
"JennyC" wrote in message


I have a love of all 'weird' plants, so I have to admit to owning

a
'blue'
rose :~)

But it's in your garden not mine, so I can live with that. :-))


It's actually a sort of washed out purple .....
http://www.ljconline.nl/garden/fotos...20Blue%203.JPG


Thanks for that link. It's an interesting colour and doesn't look at
all blue (and I would consider it if it was that colour here). The
quality of light is very differnet in the UK to my garden and plants
that can look good in the UK can look ghastly under our stronger more
glaring light.

Don't rub it in, we are all about to go into hibernation!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea



K 28-10-2006 10:23 AM

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Charlie Pridham writes

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...

Thanks for that link. It's an interesting colour and doesn't look at
all blue (and I would consider it if it was that colour here). The
quality of light is very differnet in the UK to my garden and plants
that can look good in the UK can look ghastly under our stronger more
glaring light.

Don't rub it in, we are all about to go into hibernation!

We're in the best time of year! Apples dripping from the trees, berries
everywhere, beautiful fungi in the woods, all those gorgeous red and
orange colours. And yet already you can see the bulbs emerging and buds
appearing ready for spring
--
Kay

June Hughes 28-10-2006 12:31 PM

What plants would you take with you if you moved house.....
 
In message , K
writes
Charlie Pridham writes

"Farm1" please@askifyouwannaknow wrote in message
...

Thanks for that link. It's an interesting colour and doesn't look at
all blue (and I would consider it if it was that colour here). The
quality of light is very differnet in the UK to my garden and plants
that can look good in the UK can look ghastly under our stronger more
glaring light.

Don't rub it in, we are all about to go into hibernation!

We're in the best time of year! Apples dripping from the trees, berries
everywhere, beautiful fungi in the woods, all those gorgeous red and
orange colours. And yet already you can see the bulbs emerging and buds
appearing ready for spring

I shall be glad when the apples are all done. Gave my dog
pancreatitis:(
--
June Hughes


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