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George.com 16-11-2006 10:54 AM

new boy, no understand?
 

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of

attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.

Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?

Mike


I came several months ago Mike as an outsider and have picked up some good
ideas and encouragement. I guess you learn to pick and choose the threads
that interest you buts its worth staying on. As for other sites rec.gardens,
rec.gardens.edible, aus.gardens I also find useful.

rob



Muddymike 17-11-2006 10:00 AM

new boy, no understand?
 
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.

Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?

Mike



La Puce 17-11-2006 10:06 AM

new boy, no understand?
 

Muddymike wrote:
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.
Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?


Please don't go. It will eventually stop when they go away. Try not to
get involved and keep to the good posts. I'm certainly trying to do so
.... and I apologise if I felt I needed to back myself. I won't fall for
it again.


Oxymel of Squill 17-11-2006 10:25 AM

new boy, no understand?
 
you've not been in enough ngs. I find it's pretty standard stuff, if a
thread gets beyond about 6 postings chances are everything beyond that level
will be "you're a ****", "no I'm not, you are"

part of life's rich tapestry



"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of
attack from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have
been reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever
reading elsewhere.

Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?

Mike




JennyC 17-11-2006 11:25 AM

new boy, no understand?
 

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden.


Whereabouts Mike??

am now wondering whether to stay for fear of attack from some members of
this group. In a few days of membership I have been reading more bitching
and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading elsewhere.

Is it always like this?


No - it comes and goes. This is a slow time of year in the garden :~)

Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?


Yes

Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?


Let me know if you find somewhere that has no flame wars ;~)

Will I attract the abuse now?


Probably not :~)

Jenny



JennyC 17-11-2006 11:27 AM

new boy, no understand?
 

"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my
knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of

attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.

Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?

Mike


I came several months ago Mike as an outsider and have picked up some good
ideas and encouragement. I guess you learn to pick and choose the threads
that interest you buts its worth staying on. As for other sites
rec.gardens,
rec.gardens.edible, aus.gardens I also find useful.
rob


But being American based groups, they do tend to go on about racoons in the
corn...........:~))
Jenny



La Puce 17-11-2006 01:12 PM

new boy, no understand?
 

JennyC wrote:
But being American based groups, they do tend to go on about racoons in the
corn...........:~))


But you know I like this :o) I like when Madgardener post one of her
huuuuge post, describing everything around her from her remote garden
on the hills. It's wonderful. I had started to print her post to give
to a couple of americain friends, to make them feel less homesick. I
like when Farm1 gives her opinions from Oz - who knows where we will be
in the future? I keep in touch on a French forum too and just love
reading stuff from abroad. I think you pick up on what interest you and
it needs to be varied, especially in backgrounds, cultures and ages.
The latter is very much what has caused problems here I think.

Also it's important to not unjustifiably poke at people. We just don't
know who the other posters are, what they do etc. and poking at
people's lives is a sure way to start flames. I am probably guilty in
answering back if you try to hurt me, but that's my nature and on the
whole it is human nature. I don't like lies and I don't like people
assuming things about others. I am not a professional gardener, I am a
keen grower of anything which wants to grow, preferably edible, I work
with urban designers and landscapers and spend most of my free time on
my plot, on other's plots, in local groups building from yurts to
geodesic domes for local school to grow stuff under, care for other
people's garden and get involve with anything permaculture. I'm out
there and that's where I like to be :o)


bigjon[_1_] 17-11-2006 01:13 PM

new boy, no understand?
 
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:25:46 +0100, JennyC wrote:


Will I attract the abuse now?


Probably not :~)


yet...

Muddymike 17-11-2006 01:43 PM

new boy, no understand?
 

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

JennyC wrote:
But being American based groups, they do tend to go on about racoons in
the
corn...........:~))


But you know I like this :o) I like when Madgardener post one of her
huuuuge post, describing everything around her from her remote garden


I don't have a problem with that either, so long as its worth reading.
This is my first forray into a Newsgroup, but I have for many years
subscribed to a couple of email lists centred around another hobby of mine.
One is UK based but has several international members, the other is
international by name yet most members are US based. Both and particularly
the UK list wander off topic all the time which again is not a problem to me
as I enjoy reading the other interests of a group of like minded people
joined by a common interest. I enjoy sharing my knowledge with others who
may be new to the topic, and even now after 10 years membership I still
learn new things from old and new members alike.

My first reading of this NG gave me some very usefull information on pruning
yew trees, I look forward to picking up more usefull tips to help me look
after this big old garden I have taken on. I will admit to being a bit of a
petrol head and look forward to contributing to any debates on power garden
equipment. Right, must go start the Billy Goat and clear all these fallen
leaves so that they don't clog the grass pickup on the ride on or jam the
snow blower :-) (you do allow the odd smiley??)

Mike




La Puce 17-11-2006 01:59 PM

new boy, no understand?
 

Muddymike wrote:
But you know I like this :o) I like when Madgardener post one of her
huuuuge post, describing everything around her from her remote garden


I don't have a problem with that either, so long as its worth reading.


(prune)

I enjoy sharing my knowledge with others who
may be new to the topic, and even now after 10 years membership I still
learn new things from old and new members alike.


I don't think we stop learning and with everything, time moves on,
things change, people come and go ...

My first reading of this NG gave me some very usefull information on pruning
yew trees, I look forward to picking up more usefull tips to help me look
after this big old garden I have taken on. I will admit to being a bit of a
petrol head and look forward to contributing to any debates on power garden
equipment. Right, must go start the Billy Goat and clear all these fallen
leaves so that they don't clog the grass pickup on the ride on or jam the
snow blower :-) (you do allow the odd smiley??)


I'm not a petrol head but I always enjoy the ride, any rides. If I had
one acre, I would feel that justifies getting a lil' cough Dynamow DS
Hydrostatic. Bet someone in this house would happilly try to race it,
after off course converting it to run on compressed gaz or biodiesel,
naturally...

A smiley a day keeps the doctor away ;o)


Kate Morgan 17-11-2006 02:04 PM

new boy, no understand?
 

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:25:46 +0100, JennyC wrote:


Will I attract the abuse now?


Probably not :~)


yet...

LOL thats always possible :-)
Dont go, stay with us, its a good n/g and you will learn heaps and I am
sure that you will be able to help others. Nearly every n/g/ goes thro
this sort of squabbling and you will get used to it and learn to ignore.

kate

p.s. it can be very amusing says she ducking and running :-)

Jim Jackson 17-11-2006 02:10 PM

new boy, no understand?
 
Muddymike wrote:
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.


Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?


I've been here for a while now, and just ignore the ego and
agro stuff.

To be honest I've no idea what it is all about. As with spam, the best
filter is what lies between the ears, and applying that you can easily
ignore everything but the real gardening stuff - well not quite, I
responded here :-)

Happy gardening
Jim
Wakefield
main interests fruit




Broadback 17-11-2006 02:32 PM

new boy, no understand?
 
Jim Jackson wrote:
Muddymike wrote:
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of attack
from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have been
reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever reading
elsewhere.


Is it always like this?
Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?
Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?
Will I attract the abuse now?


I've been here for a while now, and just ignore the ego and
agro stuff.

To be honest I've no idea what it is all about. As with spam, the best
filter is what lies between the ears, and applying that you can easily
ignore everything but the real gardening stuff - well not quite, I
responded here :-)

Happy gardening
Jim
Wakefield
main interests fruit



Hey MuddyMike, if you love power tools, with a garden that size go and
get a shredder. I only have 1/2acre, and the shredder is my most used
and favourite tool.

bigjon[_1_] 17-11-2006 04:05 PM

new boy, no understand?
 
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:04:20 -0000, Kate Morgan wrote:

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:25:46 +0100, JennyC wrote:


Will I attract the abuse now?

Probably not :~)


yet...

LOL thats always possible :-)
Dont go, stay with us, its a good n/g and you will learn heaps and I am
sure that you will be able to help others. Nearly every n/g/ goes thro
this sort of squabbling and you will get used to it and learn to ignore.

kate

p.s. it can be very amusing says she ducking and running :-)


agreed...

Alan Holmes 17-11-2006 04:40 PM

new boy, no understand?
 

"Muddymike" wrote in message
om...
What gives here? I joined this group in the hope of expanding my knowledge
of gardening having taken on a large (about an acre) once grand, now
overgrown town garden. I am now wondering whether to stay for fear of
attack from some members of this group. In a few days of membership I have
been reading more bitching and hate on this NG than I can recall ever
reading elsewhere.


There is some bitchuing in most of the newsgroups, it is not worse here than
in others.

Is it always like this?


No, ask a question and you will/should get a number of sensible answers, but
as in all newsgroups there are a few who like to stir people up. Just
ignore then and add them to your killfile then you do not have to read their
comments, ever. The only problem comes when some silly asses respond, then
you do get to read the rubbish.

Is it worth hanging around for the garden talk to start?


Yes!

Is there a real gardening NG somewhere?


No!

Will I attract the abuse now?


Perhaps, but stand up like a man and ignore it!(:-)

Alan


Mike





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