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We got back from Jersey this evening and have yet to do a tour of our own
garden - it is dark, wet and windy and the flight was horrid! However, we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a *lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom, Correa and Rosmarinus
are in full flower and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.
However, when we arrived in Jersey the temp was 2 degrees lower than Exeter
and during our 5 day stay the two have been pretty much the same. I can
only imagine that Jersey is *consistently* warmer while we have more peaks
and troughs in temp terms.
Ray took three Holboellia fruits from the plant we gave my son a couple of
years ago and they're a mass of seeds. Those, along with the acorns from
the holm oaks at my mother's Guernsey house which we took in November and
which are sprouting already, will give the nursery a good stock of these
plants! He also took some seeds from Magnolia grandiflora in the Jersey
garden but I wonder how long *those* will take to become viable trees!
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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We got back from Jersey this evening and have yet to do a tour of our own
garden - it is dark, wet and windy and the flight was horrid! However, we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a

*lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom, Correa and Rosmarinus
are in full flower and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.
However, when we arrived in Jersey the temp was 2 degrees lower than

Exeter
and during our 5 day stay the two have been pretty much the same. I can
only imagine that Jersey is *consistently* warmer while we have more peaks
and troughs in temp terms.
Ray took three Holboellia fruits from the plant we gave my son a couple of
years ago and they're a mass of seeds. Those, along with the acorns from
the holm oaks at my mother's Guernsey house which we took in November and
which are sprouting already, will give the nursery a good stock of these
plants! He also took some seeds from Magnolia grandiflora in the Jersey
garden but I wonder how long *those* will take to become viable trees!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

I have never seen fruit on my Holboellias here and have always blamed lack
of warmth at the right time. No sign of daffs but my Correa's and Acacia
bailiana are in full flower, yet many of the things other posters have
remarked are still going strong in their gardens went at the first wiff of
cold back in early November
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Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea


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On 4/1/07 09:03, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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We got back from Jersey this evening and have yet to do a tour of our own
garden - it is dark, wet and windy and the flight was horrid! However, we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a

*lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom, Correa and Rosmarinus
are in full flower and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.
However, when we arrived in Jersey the temp was 2 degrees lower than

Exeter
and during our 5 day stay the two have been pretty much the same. I can
only imagine that Jersey is *consistently* warmer while we have more peaks
and troughs in temp terms.
Ray took three Holboellia fruits from the plant we gave my son a couple of
years ago and they're a mass of seeds. Those, along with the acorns from
the holm oaks at my mother's Guernsey house which we took in November and
which are sprouting already, will give the nursery a good stock of these
plants! He also took some seeds from Magnolia grandiflora in the Jersey
garden but I wonder how long *those* will take to become viable trees!
--


I have never seen fruit on my Holboellias here and have always blamed lack
of warmth at the right time. No sign of daffs but my Correa's and Acacia
bailiana are in full flower, yet many of the things other posters have
remarked are still going strong in their gardens went at the first wiff of
cold back in early November


The Holboellia fruits are slightly obscene purple fat sausage things,
crammed with seeds. We're especially delighted to have these as there's a
family connection! We used to raise most of our own but also sometimes
bought some in from a wholesale nursery which has recently gone to the wall,
very sadly. The new owners only had it about two years. ;-(

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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On 4/1/07 09:03, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We got back from Jersey this evening and have yet to do a tour of our

own
garden - it is dark, wet and windy and the flight was horrid! However,

we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a

*lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom, Correa and

Rosmarinus
are in full flower and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.
However, when we arrived in Jersey the temp was 2 degrees lower than

Exeter
and during our 5 day stay the two have been pretty much the same. I

can
only imagine that Jersey is *consistently* warmer while we have more

peaks
and troughs in temp terms.
Ray took three Holboellia fruits from the plant we gave my son a couple

of
years ago and they're a mass of seeds. Those, along with the acorns

from
the holm oaks at my mother's Guernsey house which we took in November

and
which are sprouting already, will give the nursery a good stock of

these
plants! He also took some seeds from Magnolia grandiflora in the

Jersey
garden but I wonder how long *those* will take to become viable trees!
--


I have never seen fruit on my Holboellias here and have always blamed

lack
of warmth at the right time. No sign of daffs but my Correa's and Acacia
bailiana are in full flower, yet many of the things other posters have
remarked are still going strong in their gardens went at the first wiff

of
cold back in early November


The Holboellia fruits are slightly obscene purple fat sausage things,
crammed with seeds. We're especially delighted to have these as there's a
family connection! We used to raise most of our own but also sometimes
bought some in from a wholesale nursery which has recently gone to the

wall,
very sadly. The new owners only had it about two years. ;-(

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/


I think I know who you mean, we knew Roger the previous owner but as we grow
all our own plants now I don't use them anymore and had not realised - sad.
I got quite a few Holboellia to root last year and have experimented with
some winter hard wood cuttings in late October, which are looking realy good
I will let Ray know how they go and may try Akebia like that next year :~)
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea


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Sacha wrote:

............ However, we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a *lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom,


All of the big 'mimosas' (Acacia dealbata) here are just starting to
flower. Some daffs are open and looking very cheery in parts of
Torbay, along with early snowdrops and a few very precocious clumps of
Dutch Crocus. I don't 'do' spring bulbs in my garden, save a few pale
lemon, tulips out front. These never show much before the middle of
January, but this year they are already 6" high. There are some
painfully neglected Zantedsechias in the same spot (neglected because
they are allowed to dry out in summer and become fully dormant from
July until October rains) and these are showing the tips of their first
flowers in their leaf axils.

... and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.


Yes, same here too. At first I thought it was just a few large
Magnolia stellata, but several soulangeana types are also as advanced.
The average minimum temperature here in December was a nearly
sub-tropical 10C and with the trend seeming to continue, we might get a
very early spring. However, I'm all too aware that there is a painful
tendency for February to provide a bitter week or so and that usually
brings things to a juddering halt.



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On 5/1/07 08:08, in article
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Sacha wrote:

............ However, we
noticed that, in Jersey, mimosa is coming into flower, daffodils are a *lot*
further advanced than here, though not yet in bloom,


All of the big 'mimosas' (Acacia dealbata) here are just starting to
flower. Some daffs are open and looking very cheery in parts of
Torbay, along with early snowdrops and a few very precocious clumps of
Dutch Crocus. I don't 'do' spring bulbs in my garden, save a few pale
lemon, tulips out front. These never show much before the middle of
January, but this year they are already 6" high. There are some
painfully neglected Zantedsechias in the same spot (neglected because
they are allowed to dry out in summer and become fully dormant from
July until October rains) and these are showing the tips of their first
flowers in their leaf axils.

... and the buds on the Magnolias are fat and promising.


Yes, same here too. At first I thought it was just a few large
Magnolia stellata, but several soulangeana types are also as advanced.
The average minimum temperature here in December was a nearly
sub-tropical 10C and with the trend seeming to continue, we might get a
very early spring. However, I'm all too aware that there is a painful
tendency for February to provide a bitter week or so and that usually
brings things to a juddering halt.


On two years in succession we've lost the buds of M. campbellii to frost but
last year it was wonderful. Our Acacia dealbata is just starting to flower
and I've just picked a couple of sprigs for the house. The Sarcococca
oppositifolia is just flowering and there are a few snowdrops up.
While I was in the garden, I saw two male blackbirds fighting, so perhaps
they know something about an early spring!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

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