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Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie"
is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. Burkie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner" wrote: Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone. However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and the British authorities. In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine. (Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.) Quote 6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection. Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass condemnation is likely. I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to explaining the surge in illness. Go veggie. Unquote http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html Special Reports You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 05/01/2007 12:00:00 FWi NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK. NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead. NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary surgeon. NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 Whole Carcass Condemnation Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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On 6 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0800, "Burk" wrote:
Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. You're an arse! My advice was free, my suggestions open. Take it or leave it. No need for your short, fat legs, to try and get on a high horse! I imagine the majority of farmers are hardworking decent folks, trying to earn a buck. Unlike the bullies here, who earn a living off state benefits, whether they work or not. A hard days work would kill the likes of webster and co, maybe that's why they have such a chip on their shoulders. Get over yourself Burkie, stop living up to your name! Burkie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner" wrote: Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone. However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and the British authorities. In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine. (Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.) Quote 6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection. Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass condemnation is likely. I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to explaining the surge in illness. Go veggie. Unquote http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html Special Reports You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 05/01/2007 12:00:00 FWi NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK. NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead. NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary surgeon. NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 Whole Carcass Condemnation Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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"Burkie" wrote in message ups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a veggie Jim Webster |
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message oups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a veggie Go veggie. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
PMWS pork entering food chain
Burkie wrote: Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. Burkie Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is lucky the latter does not exist. |
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Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or
is that your fetal attempt to do so? There is nothing honest about the meat industry trying to keep from the public the cruel conditions of factory farming and rendering of animals that suffer greatly because of desire to make more profit while denying helpless animals their God given right to natural life. They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. |
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"Ronald 'More-More' Moshki" wrote in message
ps.com... Burkie wrote: Burkie is going to neither hevean nor hell; he is lucky the latter does not exist. Can you please give proof that the former does exist please? Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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wrote in message
ups.com... .. They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Thank you Mike 70 and going strong :-)) -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Thank you Mike 70 and going strong :-)) hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look at their evidence and it doesn't stand up Jim Webster |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early. Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc. Just because you're alright Jack, doesnt mean it's alright. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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'Mike' wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Have you seen some of the videos? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? People live longer not because but in spite of meat they consume. We see more and more frequent bans of meat imports due to health risks. Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals. |
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wrote in message
oups.com... 'Mike' wrote: Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals. "SOME" I am so glad you put that in. And how many, or what % of the population would that be? 2%? 5%? even 10%? (which I doubt) which still leaves a huge majority not on your wavelength :-)) Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:25:48 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote:
wrote in message roups.com... 'Mike' wrote: Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals. "SOME" I am so glad you put that in. And how many, or what % of the population would that be? 2%? 5%? even 10%? (which I doubt) which still leaves a huge majority not on your wavelength :-)) I hope you don't think the silent majority support animal abuse? As the pro hunt loons found out, the silent majority counts for a lot. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 08:35:23 +0000, Geoff wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message roups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon so he isn't that much of a veggie Go veggie. · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: Tires, Paper, Upholstery, Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer, Antifreeze, Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic, Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin, Solvents, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Gelatin Capsules, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products, Plywood, Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane Wrap and Tape, Abrasives, Steel Ball Bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. · |
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:
"Burkie" wrote in message oups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? so he isn't that much of a veggie Jim Webster |
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"Geoff" wrote in message
... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:25:48 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... 'Mike' wrote: Some people stopped eating meat to protect their health while others out of concern for the cruel treatment of animals. "SOME" I am so glad you put that in. And how many, or what % of the population would that be? 2%? 5%? even 10%? (which I doubt) which still leaves a huge majority not on your wavelength :-)) I hope you don't think the silent majority support animal abuse? As the pro hunt loons found out, the silent majority counts for a lot. -- :-) Very clever way to get out of what I was saying about the % of the population who are not meat eaters. Very difficult for you to stick to an argument, which by your own observation, must be that more people eat meat than do not :-))) Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message roups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster |
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wrote in message oups.com... 'Mike' wrote: wrote in message ups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Have you seen some of the videos? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? People live longer not because but in spite of meat they consume. We see more and more frequent bans of meat imports due to health risks. actually we see a lot of bans on vegetable products for the same reason, Jim Webster |
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Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these
people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very necessities of life? Burkie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Webster wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Thank you Mike 70 and going strong :-)) hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look at their evidence and it doesn't stand up Jim Webster |
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Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate
that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my grandfather. So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country means, means nothing to me. By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I reserve the right to disagree with you. However, due to your persistent nature to try and intimidate me, playing the innuendo game of name-calling, go right ahead. You won't score any points doing that, certainly not read as a positive to those who particpate on this group......actually makes you look a little bit foolish, if not childish. Burkie (and damn proud of my nick-name.....well-known and well-respected.) Geoff wrote: On 6 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0800, "Burk" wrote: Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. You're an arse! My advice was free, my suggestions open. Take it or leave it. No need for your short, fat legs, to try and get on a high horse! I imagine the majority of farmers are hardworking decent folks, trying to earn a buck. Unlike the bullies here, who earn a living off state benefits, whether they work or not. A hard days work would kill the likes of webster and co, maybe that's why they have such a chip on their shoulders. Get over yourself Burkie, stop living up to your name! Burkie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner" wrote: Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone. However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and the British authorities. In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine. (Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.) Quote 6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection. Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass condemnation is likely. I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to explaining the surge in illness. Go veggie. Unquote http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html Special Reports You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 05/01/2007 12:00:00 FWi NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK. NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead. NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary surgeon. NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 Whole Carcass Condemnation Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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"Burkie" wrote in message oups.com... Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very necessities of life? Burkie waste of time, as pete is either a troll, who just says it to wind you up, or a crank in which case he doesn't care anyway more sense to look at the figures, more and more people in the world are consuming more meat every year but with the way that grain is going in bioethanol, and the way that oil prices are going up, a lot of people in the apparently prosperous west are suddenly going to discover that the vegetarian protein sources and more interesting vegetables they are used to are going to become awfully expensive. I wonder how many will be keen on being vegetarian when their only vegetables are those that grow seasonally in England the petes of this world are going to discover that they can ignore reality for as long as they like, but reality will not ignore them The coarse fisherman could well eat better than they do in the next few years ;-) Jim Webster |
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"Burkie" wrote in message ps.com... Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my grandfather. So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country means, means nothing to me. By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I reserve the right to disagree with you. not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny Jim Webster |
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If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly,
Jim. Jim Webster wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message ps.com... Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my grandfather. So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country means, means nothing to me. By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I reserve the right to disagree with you. not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny Jim Webster |
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On 7 Jan 2007 22:49:07 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:
Dear Jim: I certainly agree with your statement. Let's ask these people like Geoff, just who and what they are, what gives them the right to tear apart whole industries to satisfy their own predilections to destroy the livelihoods of those who provide them the very necessities of life? Burkie The right to protect myself, my family, friends and the planet is written in my conscience. Just as it's your choice to do the opposite. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Webster wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... wrote in message ups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Thank you Mike 70 and going strong :-)) hate to say it Mike but you are asking them to justify a deeply held religious belief, and they find it difficult to do, especially when you look at their evidence and it doesn't stand up Jim Webster -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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On 7 Jan 2007 22:58:37 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:
Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my grandfather. So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country means, means nothing to me. You said it! By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. It's free advice. I reserve the right to disagree with you. You are perfectly entitled to. However, due to your persistent nature to try and intimidate me, playing the innuendo game of name-calling, go right ahead. You won't score any points doing that, certainly not read as a positive to those who particpate on this group......actually makes you look a little bit foolish, if not childish. Don't be a silly Billy Burkie. Burkie (and damn proud of my nick-name.....well-known and well-respected.) Nothing special here! Geoff wrote: On 6 Jan 2007 13:20:32 -0800, "Burk" wrote: Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. I'll die and go to heaven having whatever meat I want to eat. That's not to say, I don't disagree with your position of choice....it's your choice. So don't make me feel threatened by your comments, because I am not. Granted, you have your choice, I have mine, but you try to thrust your opinions and comments on a group of people , here, that are trying to make a living producing food for the Public. Companies like Perdigao, Sadia, Smithfield and your retailers must think good of you, because your insistence upon a veg diet still requires you to patronize some of them as your source. Why attempt to discredit honest, hard-working livestock producers? Or is that your fetal attempt to do so? Must make you feel good. Must make veggie's taste better to you, knowing you are trying to destroy other people's livings. But that's easy for you to come off on those that have made significant investments in facilities and equipment, who try to comply with the non-sensical EU rules in your country, then buy produce imported from who-knows-where. I have an attitude, but it doesn't agree with yours. You're an arse! My advice was free, my suggestions open. Take it or leave it. No need for your short, fat legs, to try and get on a high horse! I imagine the majority of farmers are hardworking decent folks, trying to earn a buck. Unlike the bullies here, who earn a living off state benefits, whether they work or not. A hard days work would kill the likes of webster and co, maybe that's why they have such a chip on their shoulders. Get over yourself Burkie, stop living up to your name! Burkie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:39:13 -0000, "Pat Gardiner" wrote: Pat's Note: This report published in FWi yesterday will not surprise anyone. However, it is effective confirmation that PMWS sick pigs are entering the food chain in the UK with seemingly the full approval of veterinarians and the British authorities. In fairness it is hard to see how they could keep them out, and the openness is to be commended, even if it does send a shiver down the spine. (Actually, I do wonder if some recent veterinary reports are deliberately designed to make quite sure that Maff-Defra can't just blame the RCVS and pig industry and walk away from the gathering crisis.) Quote 6) Septic pleurisy. Since the arrival of PMWS on most UK farms there has been a rise in severe pleurisy lesions, which in the most severe form can set up abscessation within the musculature of the rib cage. If restricted to this area, trimming may be possible with only partial carcass rejection. Where infection has spread beyond the thorax (chest) whole carcass condemnation is likely. I have no doubt, given the filthy conditions in farming today, that infected food is reaching our tables. It would go some way to explaining the surge in illness. Go veggie. Unquote http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...mber-2006.html Special Reports You are in: Home Special Reports Animal Health NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 05/01/2007 12:00:00 FWi NADIS is a network of 40 veterinary practices and six veterinary colleges monitoring diseases of cattle, sheep and pigs in the UK. NADIS data can highlight potential livestock disease and parasite incidences before they peak, providing a valuable early warning for the month ahead. NADIS disease bulletins are written specifically for farmers, to increase awareness of prevalent conditions and promote disease prevention and control, in order to benefit animal health and welfare. Farmers are advised to discuss their individual farm circumstances with their veterinary surgeon. NADIS Pig Disease Focus - December 2006 Whole Carcass Condemnation Mark White BVSc DPM MRCVS -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid's brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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On 8 Jan 2007 00:05:52 -0800, "Burkie" wrote:
If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly, Jim. Stop groveling you snotty nosed twerp. It's embarrassing. Jim Webster wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message ps.com... Hey there....now you are calling me names. I don't really appreciate that, but then you did and stated it. I have been Burkie forever....ever since I was born. My father was, too. So was my grandfather. So ...fly your kite somewhere else. Whatever a Burk in your country means, means nothing to me. By the way, your insistence about "Go Veggie" is yours, not mine. I reserve the right to disagree with you. not with pete you don't. You are dealing with someone who is either just a troll and loves to play at winding you up, or else he is a bona fida member of the corpse reburial society and if you disagree with his views he reserves the right to come round and dig up your granny Jim Webster -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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"Burkie" wrote in message ups.com... If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly, Jim. that is the sort of idiot you are dealing with when you talk to UK animal rights activists Jim Webster |
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote:
dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message groups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? |
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On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early. Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc. Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans? Just because you're alright Jack, doesnt mean it's alright. |
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dh@. wrote in message ... Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early. Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc. Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans? no they die of boring diets :-(( Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:18 -0500, dh@. wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message egroups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? Webster an idiot, bully, child porn hoarder, and convicted pro hunt loon. Take what he says with a large pinch of salt! spit. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:16:58 -0500, dh@. wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:34:25 +0000, Geoff wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0000, "'Mike'" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... . They are also poisoning the public because of unhealthy conditions inherent to factory farming. ??????????????????? Considering that there are more meat eaters in this country that veggies, can you please explain to me, why, if the meat industry is 'poisoning the public', the public in general are living a lot longer and as proof, the pensionable age is to be raised because of the shortfall in pension funds? Some are living longer, some arent. Many are dying far too early. Cancers, CJD, Dementia etc. Doesn't stuff like that kill vegans? Only if they turned vegan too late. -- *************************** "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer Check out Animal Aid’s brand new one-minute video. This powerful film, containing shocking images, just begs to be seen by as many people as possible. Help raise awareness by sending it to your friends and family. http://tinyurl.com/yjmxo2 The logic some people use for not attending church, is used to avoid washing 1.I was forced to as a child. 2.People who make soap are only after your money. 3.I wash on special occasions like Christmas and Easter. 4.People who wash are hypocrites-they think they are cleaner than everyone else. 5.There are so many different kinds of soap,I can't decide which one is best. 6.I used to wash, but it got boring so I stopped. 7.None of my friends wash. 8.The bathroom is never warm enough in the winter or cool enough in the summer. 9.I'll start washing when I get older and dirtier. 10.I can't spare the time . |
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dh@. wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message egroups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe in what he writes if he things it might wind people up Jim Webster |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:31:58 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:03:20 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message legroups.com... Dear Geoff: We have never met, but the tacit reaction to "go veggie" is yours, not mine. pete is the one who told us to buy tesco salmon Why? because he is a troll? Jim Webster Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe in what he writes if he things it might wind people up Pete who? |
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:47:21 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote: "Burkie" wrote in message oups.com... If this idiot digs up my granny, you will see WW3. happen very quickly, Jim. that is the sort of idiot you are dealing with when you talk to UK animal rights activists Jim Webster You don't talk. You shout, bully, scream, jump up and down, and drink to excess. |
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URL:mailto:(o)(o)@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:31:58 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe in what he writes if he things it might wind people up Pete who? Pete you. Is that four different ID's you're using at the moment? Cheerio, -- http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/ |
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:27:23 +0000, Derek Moody
wrote: In article , URL:mailto:(o)(o)@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:31:58 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: dh@. wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:16:25 -0000, "Jim Webster" Well in a way we all are, but why would someone who wants to be thought of as promoting veg*nism suggest that anyone should buy salmon? And from a particular company? such is life, don't expect pete to be consistant or even to actually believe in what he writes if he things it might wind people up Pete who? Pete you. Gone Fishing |
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looks like pete has changed his sock puppet again
hey ho and another for the kilfile |
PMWS pork entering food chain
"Derek Moody" wrote in message ... Pete you. Is that four different ID's you're using at the moment? He's probably got more than four. Still, that's schizophrenia for you. |
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