On Mar 8, 5:59 pm, "Dave Hill" wrote:
Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile , I find that a
lot of the things I could do in the past you can't do with Google
David Hill

I have that problem Dave, on Google. I have a second private server,
Demon and it works fine on Turnpike. I also have a hospital computer
but all newsgroups are unaccessible on there as are commercial sites
so I don't need to set up a killfile as I can't access newsgroups,
either to read or reply and that applies to all NHS staff throughout
the UK.

I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.

Judith

wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.

The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive --
that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you want to
be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based newsreader, which
will allow actions in your own computer.

The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's no way M$ is
going to make the effort to fix it.

So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.

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Mike.



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Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.

The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive
-- that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you
want to be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based
newsreader, which will allow actions in your own computer.

The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better
reader also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole
crossposted groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's
no way M$ is going to make the effort to fix it.

So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.

PS. There are security "issues" with Outlook Express: a good reason to
use something better if you feel up to the installation, but as long as
you use it only for Usenet you won't come to harm.

Also, note that Outlook Express and Outlook are completely different.
Outlook is OK for email, but doesn't read news.

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Mike.



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On Mar 9, 9:56 pm, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.

The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive
-- that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you
want to be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based
newsreader, which will allow actions in your own computer.

The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better
reader also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole
crossposted groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's
no way M$ is going to make the effort to fix it.

So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.

PS. There are security "issues" with Outlook Express: a good reason to
use something better if you feel up to the installation, but as long as
you use it only for Usenet you won't come to harm.

Also, note that Outlook Express and Outlook are completely different.
Outlook is OK for email, but doesn't read news.

--
Mike.

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Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me. A
great result so hopefully the trolling on this group by that person
will now stop, the insults to others, the lies and the foul language
Unfortunately it won't stop the bad gardening advice, but I can live
with that.

Judith

On 10 Mar, 12:03, "
wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.

On 10/3/07 12:21, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 12:03, "
wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

On 10 Mar, 12:37, Sacha wrote:
I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.

I've seen your letter, the publicly funded bit, the worst
advertisement, the professionals and journalists posting here, you
being the longest poster on urg blablahbla... What a lot of rubbish. I
cannot remember having a row with Charlie, nor Trevor, both quite more
professional than you. You're a liar and a silly woman but I will
grant you the last word because I pity you. So there, have it Sacha
Hubbard, have it all.

..
"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...

Just GO AWAY, as you SAID you were doing, or take it to e-mail, or talk
through your bloody lawyers, but for crying out bloody loud GIVE US PEACE!

--
AnneJ



Not to email please.

Mike

"Anne Jackson" wrote in message
...
The message from Sacha contains these
words:
On 10/3/07 12:21, "La Puce" wrote:

On 10 Mar, 12:03, "
wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior
director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me
indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.

For crying out ****ing loud, Sacha! Do you EVER say something and MEAN
IT?
Are we NEVER to have any peace and quiet in here, until you finally prove
that you are a totally unreliable LIAR!! I will admit that I breathed
a HUGE sigh of relief when I read, last Monday, that you were leaving!

This behaviour is causing people, good people, helpful people, to abandon
this group in droves...do you think for one minute that we can't survive
without YOUR input? We managed fine before you arrived, we'll manage
fine when you leave...

Just GO AWAY, as you SAID you were doing, or take it to e-mail, or talk
through your bloody lawyers, but for crying out bloody loud GIVE US PEACE!

I think you are putting your ire to the wrong person, you should be
addressing Puke!

If everyone put Puke into their killfile we would not ahve to read all this.

Alan


--
AnneJ

"Better To Die On Your Feet Than Live Forever On Your Knees"
Dolores Ibaruri (La Passionaria)

On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "

wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.

I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.

Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.

You are now a figure of fun.


Judith

In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "

wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.

I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.

Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.

You are now a figure of fun.

Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes

Mike Lyle writes

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups:

Turnpike has built in rules to kill article (can't see the point), whole
threads, particular subjects or particular posters, and you can create
customised rules, for example to kill posts that are crossposted to more
than a certain number of groups, or which are more than a particular
length (eg 200 lines)
--
Kay

On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:27:14 +0000, K wrote
(in article ):

Mike Lyle writes

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups:

Turnpike has built in rules to kill article (can't see the point), whole
threads, particular subjects or particular posters, and you can create
customised rules, for example to kill posts that are crossposted to more
than a certain number of groups, or which are more than a particular
length (eg 200 lines)


The one I use, Hogwasher (Mac only) has a similar arrangement. It is
particularly useful to killfile the trolls that crosspost to umpteen groups,
and you can also killfile the ones that are crossposted to a particular
group. It also has a rule to keep the filter permanently, or delete it if
unused for (n) days - particularly useful against the morons that continually
change their identity, and saves the killfile from growing enormously. I
occasionally use Google Groups to look up something in a group which I don't
subscribe to, nor wish to subscribe to, but I personally find the whole
usenet experience so much better through a proper newsreader.





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Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk