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Dave Hill 08-03-2007 02:59 PM

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Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.


La Puce 08-03-2007 03:18 PM

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On 8 Mar, 14:59, "Dave Hill" wrote:
Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?


I do. Why?


Dave Hill 08-03-2007 05:59 PM

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On 8 Mar, 15:18, "La Puce" wrote:
On 8 Mar, 14:59, "Dave Hill" wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?


I do. Why?


Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile , I find that a
lot of the things I could do in the past you can't do with Google
David Hill


[email protected] 08-03-2007 06:10 PM

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On Mar 8, 5:59 pm, "Dave Hill" wrote:
Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile , I find that a
lot of the things I could do in the past you can't do with Google
David Hill


I have that problem Dave, on Google. I have a second private server,
Demon and it works fine on Turnpike. I also have a hospital computer
but all newsgroups are unaccessible on there as are commercial sites
so I don't need to set up a killfile as I can't access newsgroups,
either to read or reply and that applies to all NHS staff throughout
the UK.

I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.

Judith


Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\) 08-03-2007 07:43 PM

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"Dave Hill" wrote in message
ups.com...
Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.

David -Are you accessing the newsgroup through Google because your isp
(AOL?) does not have a news sever or one that carries uk.rec.gardening or is
it a technical problem?
Just nosey:-)



La Puce 08-03-2007 07:54 PM

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On 8 Mar, 17:59, "Dave Hill" wrote:
Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile , I find that a
lot of the things I could do in the past you can't do with Google


No sadly. It's a pest. Especially at the moment when we seem to have a
terrible lot of crossposts and trolls. I think it's just a matter, as
far as you and I are concerned, to try to waddle through it all. It
usually dissipate eventually. As long as nobody respond - they'll get
bored. Starting new threads is also a good idea. It generates lots of
posts from us and the crossposts/trolls eventually fall behind.

When on Turnpike I could set killfile but not with google beta. Also
I'm on Outlook - I could use urg via it, I just don't want to have it
there all the time or I'll do no work!! ;o)


Cerumen[_3_] 09-03-2007 06:11 AM

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"Dave Hill" wrote in message
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On 8 Mar, 15:18, "La Puce" wrote:
On 8 Mar, 14:59, "Dave Hill" wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?


I do. Why?


Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile ,


It was me mentioning my kill file that set off the present attack of troll
lunacy in a few groups I frequent so beware :-)
I don't know of any way to filter messages in Google though sorry.

--
Chris, West Cork, Ireland.




Dave Hill 09-03-2007 10:35 AM

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On 8 Mar, 19:43, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message

ups.com... Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.


David -Are you accessing the newsgroup through Google because your isp
(AOL?) does not have a news sever or one that carries uk.rec.gardening or is
it a technical problem?
Just nosey:-)


Yes.
AOL doesn't allow access to news groups.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries


Janet Tweedy 09-03-2007 11:24 AM

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In article .com, Dave
Hill writes
On 8 Mar, 15:18, "La Puce" wrote:
On 8 Mar, 14:59, "Dave Hill" wrote:

Just wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?


I do. Why?


Just wondering if there is any way to set a Killfile , I find that a
lot of the things I could do in the past you can't do with Google
David Hill




This is what it says on a couple of sites David

==================================================

There are many web-based news services out there, including
Google http://groups.google.com, NewsRanger
http://www.newsranger.com, and so forth. For a complete
listing, visit http://www.newsreaders.com. These are
usually free services, and have the advantage of being complete
and timely. They are searchable, and many people prefer to use
them instead of a regular news service and separate reader,
especially if the newsfeed offered by their ISP is slow or
incomplete. The drawback is that they don't have filtering
capabilities.

From what I can see, there is no method for filtering out the
posts you do not wish to see in web-based newsreaders. You
can use the advanced search options to retrieve, say, all posts
made to a specific group, but *without* specific words in
them, such as "ninnyboy".

If you use Google groups because your news server isn't
very good, you may want to try contacting your ISP and
telling
them you're unhappy with their news service and that they
need to beef it up ... or get a different ISP ... or sign up
for a good service such as NewsGuy (relatively cheap).

Otherwise, you're stuck without filtering, and have
to do it "manually" by just skipping past the posts you don't
wish to see.

================================================== ========



Or why not get something free like Agent or another newsreader? I
wouldn't be without my killfile ability though some people tend to leave
in the whole of the message text that they are replying to, which kind
of defeats the object:)


Janet

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Sally Thompson 09-03-2007 12:02 PM

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:35:44 +0000, Dave Hill wrote
(in article .com):

On 8 Mar, 19:43, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message

ups.com... Just
wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.


David -Are you accessing the newsgroup through Google because your isp
(AOL?) does not have a news sever or one that carries uk.rec.gardening or is
it a technical problem?
Just nosey:-)


Yes.
AOL doesn't allow access to news groups.



David, is there anything to prevent you using the German news server
news.individual.net http://news.individual.net/? This is a stand-alone
package, it used to be free and is now only 10 Euros a year but well worth
while. You would then just need a newsreader - plenty out there, some free.




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bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk


Mike Lyle 09-03-2007 07:30 PM

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wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.


The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive --
that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you want to
be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based newsreader, which
will allow actions in your own computer.

The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's no way M$ is
going to make the effort to fix it.

So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.

--
Mike.



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http://www.teranews.com


Mike Lyle 09-03-2007 09:56 PM

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Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.


The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive
-- that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you
want to be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based
newsreader, which will allow actions in your own computer.

The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better
reader also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole
crossposted groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's
no way M$ is going to make the effort to fix it.

So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.


PS. There are security "issues" with Outlook Express: a good reason to
use something better if you feel up to the installation, but as long as
you use it only for Usenet you won't come to harm.

Also, note that Outlook Express and Outlook are completely different.
Outlook is OK for email, but doesn't read news.

--
Mike.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com


K 09-03-2007 11:27 PM

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Mike Lyle writes

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups:


Turnpike has built in rules to kill article (can't see the point), whole
threads, particular subjects or particular posters, and you can create
customised rules, for example to kill posts that are crossposted to more
than a certain number of groups, or which are more than a particular
length (eg 200 lines)
--
Kay

jay jay 10-03-2007 07:35 AM

[or switch to an ISP, that fits in with the rest of the world?]
Martin[/quote]

Or why not just access through Garden Banter - wots so wrong with it? I find it easy to use (you can quickly scroll through posts and replies) and if I don't want to read a particular person's reply/posting, I just ignore it. I sort of know the longer a thread generally, the 'worse' it gets so I don't read those, or skip to the last post to see how its developed. I'm just a beginner gardener so I tend to read more than respond, but I've learnt an awful lot, laughed a lot (especially when Sacha is/was on good form) and would like to think I still belong, despite accessing through Gardenbanter. I have tried accessing URG through a newsgroup twice, but each time, despite our excellent anti-virus protection, something got through leading to major repair. So I'm sticking to Garden Banter....

Charlie Pridham 10-03-2007 08:13 AM

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"Sally Thompson" wrote in message
al.net...
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:35:44 +0000, Dave Hill wrote
(in article .com):

On 8 Mar, 19:43, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)" wrote:
"Dave Hill" wrote in message

ups.com... Just
wondering if anyone else has to access this group via Google?
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.

David -Are you accessing the newsgroup through Google because your isp
(AOL?) does not have a news sever or one that carries uk.rec.gardening

or is
it a technical problem?
Just nosey:-)


Yes.
AOL doesn't allow access to news groups.



David, is there anything to prevent you using the German news server
news.individual.net http://news.individual.net/? This is a stand-alone
package, it used to be free and is now only 10 Euros a year but well worth
while. You would then just need a newsreader - plenty out there, some

free.




--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk

I switched to them after years of missing posts with tiscalli and I must say
its been very good since, not quite free but almost!

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea



Granity 10-03-2007 08:47 AM

I agree, with Jay Jay much easier to log in from your normal web browser,

you can then see the latest topics and read them or not as you wish.

Sally Thompson 10-03-2007 09:48 AM

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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:27:14 +0000, K wrote
(in article ):

Mike Lyle writes

OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better reader
also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole crossposted
groups:


Turnpike has built in rules to kill article (can't see the point), whole
threads, particular subjects or particular posters, and you can create
customised rules, for example to kill posts that are crossposted to more
than a certain number of groups, or which are more than a particular
length (eg 200 lines)


The one I use, Hogwasher (Mac only) has a similar arrangement. It is
particularly useful to killfile the trolls that crosspost to umpteen groups,
and you can also killfile the ones that are crossposted to a particular
group. It also has a rule to keep the filter permanently, or delete it if
unused for (n) days - particularly useful against the morons that continually
change their identity, and saves the killfile from growing enormously. I
occasionally use Google Groups to look up something in a group which I don't
subscribe to, nor wish to subscribe to, but I personally find the whole
usenet experience so much better through a proper newsreader.





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bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk


[email protected] 10-03-2007 12:03 PM

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On Mar 9, 9:56 pm, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
wrote:
[...]
I have emailed Google to ask them if there is a way to set up a
filter, if they say anything useful, I will email you.


The point about Google is that it's not a newsreader, it's an archive
-- that is, a website where one can read a copy of Usenet. If you
want to be able to killfile, you need a proper client-based
newsreader, which will allow actions in your own computer.


The inconvenient bit about setting up a newsreader is that you need to
find a news _server_ to feed into the reader. Teranews is a very cheap
one (a once-only payment of under four dollars); news.individual.net
costs ten euro a year, but it's rather better. You can download a news
client from the Web, or use Outlook Express, which comes free and
automatically with Windows -- it's not brilliant, but it's good enough
for most people. A small and decreasing number of ISPs run their own
news servers for their customers.


OE allows killfiling, which is pretty well essential for a group like
URG which is under constant attack from trolls and egos. A better
reader also allows you to killfile not just individuals but whole
crossposted groups: OE's mechanism for this doesn't work, and there's
no way M$ is going to make the effort to fix it.


So, in short, no: GG of its nature can't support killfiles.


PS. There are security "issues" with Outlook Express: a good reason to
use something better if you feel up to the installation, but as long as
you use it only for Usenet you won't come to harm.

Also, note that Outlook Express and Outlook are completely different.
Outlook is OK for email, but doesn't read news.

--
Mike.

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Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me. A
great result so hopefully the trolling on this group by that person
will now stop, the insults to others, the lies and the foul language
Unfortunately it won't stop the bad gardening advice, but I can live
with that.

Judith


La Puce 10-03-2007 12:21 PM

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wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.


Sacha 10-03-2007 12:37 PM

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On 10/3/07 12:21, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 12:03, "
wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


[email protected] 10-03-2007 12:45 PM

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On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "

wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.

Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.

You are now a figure of fun.


Judith


June Hughes 10-03-2007 12:54 PM

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In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "

wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.

Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.

You are now a figure of fun.

Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes

'Mike' 10-03-2007 01:32 PM

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"June Hughes" wrote in message
...

Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here. Then
maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng before
people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes




No, please don't, especially as Sacha has returned.

Mike


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Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association
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www.nsrafa.com



[email protected] 10-03-2007 01:42 PM

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On 10 Mar, 12:37, Sacha wrote:
I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.


I've seen your letter, the publicly funded bit, the worst
advertisement, the professionals and journalists posting here, you
being the longest poster on urg blablahbla... What a lot of rubbish. I
cannot remember having a row with Charlie, nor Trevor, both quite more
professional than you. You're a liar and a silly woman but I will
grant you the last word because I pity you. So there, have it Sacha
Hubbard, have it all.


La Puce 10-03-2007 01:56 PM

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On 10 Mar, 13:42, wrote:
I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.


I've seen your letter, the publicly funded bit, the worst
advertisement, the professionals and journalists posting here, you
being the longest poster on urg blablahbla... What a lot of rubbish. I
cannot remember having a row with Charlie, nor Trevor, both quite more
professional than you. You're a liar and a silly woman but I will
grant you the last word because I pity you. So there, have it Sacha
Hubbard, have it all.


David wanted to say something then changed his mind. I hadn't realised
I was still on his addy. Still, we both couldn't care less. We've
repeatedly asked you not to meniton us - but you still carry on. We
just don't understand why.


Sacha 10-03-2007 02:54 PM

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On 10/3/07 12:54, in article , "June
Hughes" wrote:

In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "

wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.

What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.

So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.

Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.

You are now a figure of fun.

Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.


I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin or
allow her to email me. Once a person with bad intentions has someone's
email headers, they can alter the content of the email to anything they want
to say. And as Helene has roundly abused her position both at work and on
this group to harass me and Judith Lea, it is right that the group should
know what she gets up to, both on and off group.
It would be rather more to the point if we heard your voice condemning her
disgusting behaviour, something that has yet to happen, rather than
appearing to want to sweep it under the mat.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Sacha 10-03-2007 02:54 PM

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On 10/3/07 13:42, in article
, "
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 12:37, Sacha wrote:
I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.


I've seen your letter, the publicly funded bit, the worst
advertisement, the professionals and journalists posting here, you
being the longest poster on urg blablahbla... What a lot of rubbish. I
cannot remember having a row with Charlie, nor Trevor, both quite more
professional than you. You're a liar and a silly woman but I will
grant you the last word because I pity you. So there, have it Sacha
Hubbard, have it all.

Pathetic.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


Sacha 10-03-2007 02:55 PM

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On 10/3/07 13:56, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 13:42, wrote:
I don't think your 'colleague' as you grandly refer to the senior director
of URBED London, considered it a laughing matter. His reply to me indicated
as much. Try it on once more with me and I'll have a lawyer onto you for
harassment so fast, it will make your eyes water.


I've seen your letter, the publicly funded bit, the worst
advertisement, the professionals and journalists posting here, you
being the longest poster on urg blablahbla... What a lot of rubbish. I
cannot remember having a row with Charlie, nor Trevor, both quite more
professional than you. You're a liar and a silly woman but I will
grant you the last word because I pity you. So there, have it Sacha
Hubbard, have it all.


David wanted to say something then changed his mind. I hadn't realised
I was still on his addy. Still, we both couldn't care less. We've
repeatedly asked you not to meniton us - but you still carry on. We
just don't understand why.

Look back over your posts of the last few days into which you continually
drag my name.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


La Puce 10-03-2007 03:09 PM

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On 10 Mar, 14:54, Sacha wrote:
I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin


But you did, last sunday at 15.46 subject title 'My Family'. I didn't
responded though. Forwarded to you June.



[email protected] 10-03-2007 04:02 PM

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On Mar 10, 12:54 pm, June Hughes
wrote:
In message m,
" writes



On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "


wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.


Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.


You are now a figure of fun.


Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes- Hide quoted text -

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Your comments may have been more accurate if you had added "used to be
a good newsgroup before La Puce joined in". I am sure you read the
comments of all the well respected gardeners putting her right about
matters?

If you feel that you must comment on this posting, then may I
respectfully request that you take it to email.

Judith


[email protected] 10-03-2007 04:07 PM

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On Mar 10, 2:54 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 10/3/07 12:54, in article , "June





Hughes" wrote:
In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "


wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.


Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.


You are now a figure of fun.


Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.


I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin or
allow her to email me. Once a person with bad intentions has someone's
email headers, they can alter the content of the email to anything they want
to say. And as Helene has roundly abused her position both at work and on
this group to harass me and Judith Lea, it is right that the group should
know what she gets up to, both on and off group.
It would be rather more to the point if we heard your voice condemning her
disgusting behaviour, something that has yet to happen, rather than
appearing to want to sweep it under the mat.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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Unfortunately this now fits in with La Puce's claims last October -
and now it seems La Puce is sending June alleged emails that you have
allegedly sent to her, why send them to June??? What a shame as I had
given June the benefit of the doubt.

Judith

Judith


Sacha 10-03-2007 04:14 PM

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On 10/3/07 15:09, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 14:54, Sacha wrote:
I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin


But you did, last sunday at 15.46 subject title 'My Family'. I didn't
responded though. Forwarded to you June.

That wasn't correspondence. That was a declaration of intent.

From:

Subject: My famiy
Date: 4 March 2007 15:36:25 GMT
To:


One more personal remark from you about me or my family and another
complaint about your vicious behaviour will go straight to URBED.**


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk

I wonder why you feel it necessary to forward emails to June? Is June Puce's
apologist or would Puce like us to think that, perhaps? And I wonder
whether what she received is what I sent. No matter, the warning stands and
my intentions are clear.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


La Puce 10-03-2007 04:25 PM

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On 10 Mar, 16:14, Sacha wrote:
That wasn't correspondence. That was a declaration of intent.


Leave it for crying out loud, JUST LEAVE IT!!! You said you wouldn't
dream of emailing me. I responded by saying you did. Now you said it
wasn't but a declaration.

Go away please leave us alone.


Sacha 10-03-2007 04:40 PM

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On 10/3/07 16:25, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 10 Mar, 16:14, Sacha wrote:
That wasn't correspondence. That was a declaration of intent.


Leave it for crying out loud, JUST LEAVE IT!!! You said you wouldn't
dream of emailing me. I responded by saying you did. Now you said it
wasn't but a declaration.

Go away please leave us alone.

Leave my family alone and I will leave you alone. Do not come near this
place again.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)


La Puce 10-03-2007 04:45 PM

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wrote:
Unfortunately this now fits in with La Puce's claims last October -
and now it seems La Puce is sending June alleged emails that you have
allegedly sent to her, why send them to June???


My god. Do you actually hold a job?! Sacha said that under no
circumstances she would email me, and she said that to June. So I
replied that she did, on Sunday and that I will forward that email to
June since it's June that asked about taking it to email. Is this
*that* difficult to understand?

Now Sacha has posted it, saying it wasn't an email but a
declaration ... But I won't even go into this. It's beyond ridiculous
now. You ladies have far too much time on your hands it seems.



June Hughes 10-03-2007 08:14 PM

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In message .com, La
Puce writes
On 10 Mar, 14:54, Sacha wrote:
I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin


But you did, last sunday at 15.46 subject title 'My Family'. I didn't
responded though. Forwarded to you June.


I don't recall seeing Sacha's post of 10 March saying anything to me.
Nor do I recall posting anything requiring such a reply from her.
However, I have been out all day, so I may have missed it. (For a
start, she would not say 'I'm sorry' to me.) Looks as though the post
may be a forgery by one of the trolls like the one pretending to be
Chris.
--
June Hughes

June Hughes 10-03-2007 08:24 PM

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In message .com,
" writes
On Mar 10, 2:54 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 10/3/07 12:54, in article , "June





Hughes" wrote:
In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "


wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.


Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.


You are now a figure of fun.


Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.


I'm sorry June but under no circumstances would I email Helene Rudlin or
allow her to email me. Once a person with bad intentions has someone's
email headers, they can alter the content of the email to anything they want
to say. And as Helene has roundly abused her position both at work and on
this group to harass me and Judith Lea, it is right that the group should
know what she gets up to, both on and off group.
It would be rather more to the point if we heard your voice condemning her
disgusting behaviour, something that has yet to happen, rather than
appearing to want to sweep it under the mat.
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devonhttp://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
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- Show quoted text -


Unfortunately this now fits in with La Puce's claims last October -
and now it seems La Puce is sending June alleged emails that you have
allegedly sent to her, why send them to June??? What a shame as I had
given June the benefit of the doubt.

Oh for goodness sake. Get a grip. I received an email from Puce this
evening when I returned from a pleasant day out. I did not encourage
this email and furthermore am not interested in any of your bitchy
little squabbles. I am surprised to see Sacha posting 'I am sorry
June' to me and have already posted a reply to Puce's posting saying I
thought it may be a forgery. I was not addressing Sacha in my post - I
was addressing you. Are you really as thick as you make out?

As for your munificent 'benefit of the doubt' - I want nothing more to
do with you and had already kill-filed you in ukfd. Now kindly go and
get on with your life and try not to be as stupid as you make out. Just
leave me alone.

--
June Hughes

June Hughes 10-03-2007 08:24 PM

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In message m,
" writes
On Mar 10, 12:54 pm, June Hughes
wrote:
In message m,
" writes



On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "


wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.


Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.


You are now a figure of fun.


Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your comments may have been more accurate if you had added "used to be
a good newsgroup before La Puce joined in". I am sure you read the
comments of all the well respected gardeners putting her right about
matters?

If you feel that you must comment on this posting, then may I
respectfully request that you take it to email.

You really are as thick as you make out.
--
June Hughes

[email protected] 10-03-2007 08:33 PM

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On Mar 10, 8:24 pm, June Hughes
wrote:
In message .com,
Oh for goodness sake. Get a grip. I received an email from Puce this
evening when I returned from a pleasant day out. I did not encourage
this email and furthermore am not interested in any of your bitchy
little squabbles. I am surprised to see Sacha posting 'I am sorry
June' to me and have already posted a reply to Puce's posting saying I
thought it may be a forgery. I was not addressing Sacha in my post - I
was addressing you. Are you really as thick as you make out?

As for your munificent 'benefit of the doubt' - I want nothing more to
do with you and had already kill-filed you in ukfd. Now kindly go and
get on with your life and try not to be as stupid as you make out. Just
leave me alone.

--
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Really June, then it's a good job that I have kept all yoiur emails
isn''t it, you have played your last card and shown your hand, what a
miserable two faced person you are, as for killfiling me, good, I
wouldn't want to associate with anything like you,or your like you
have ben caught out, yet again and as for taking it to email, it's
pity you didn't take your own advice especially the whining email you
sent wheedling an invite to Sacha's meet, now sod off.


[email protected] 10-03-2007 08:35 PM

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On Mar 10, 8:24 pm, June Hughes
wrote:
In message m,
" writes



On Mar 10, 12:54 pm, June Hughes
wrote:
In message m,
" writes


On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, "La Puce" wrote:
On 10 Mar, 12:03, "


wrote:
Thanks for all the information Mike. I have received a letter this
morning which confirms that I won't have to killfile one person in urg
anymore as she has been ORDERED not to write in any way, shape or form
on a public group, anything libellious or inflammatory about me.


What? I can write what I want and when I want. You however cannot.
I've seen Sacha's letter and it's laughable. And if you mention, as
you've been told, my husband and my organisation once more, this will
then be more serious than you would have ever expected.


So let it rest once and for all.


I have no idea what you are on about, Sacha's letter??? I am talking
about the letter that Nic Falk sent to your husband, a copy of which I
have.


Mrs. Rudlin I don't have to say anymore, you know the truth of the
matter and so does everyone who matters on urg, your lying days are
done.


You are now a figure of fun.


Perhaps you would like to take this to email? It has no place here.
Then maybe we can pick up the remnants of what used to be a good ng
before people like Alan Gould left.
--
June Hughes- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Your comments may have been more accurate if you had added "used to be
a good newsgroup before La Puce joined in". I am sure you read the
comments of all the well respected gardeners putting her right about
matters?


If you feel that you must comment on this posting, then may I
respectfully request that you take it to email.


You really are as thick as you make out.
--
June Hughes- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not quite so thick that I can't see what you are, everyone has been
right about you all along.



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