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Hi all,
I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza |
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Bazza wrote:
Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza A BB gun with plastic pellets, shoot em up the arse a few times. -- MSN WebCam http://nitromax.ww.com Location Telford, Shropshire |
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Nitro® wrote:
Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza A BB gun with plastic pellets, shoot em up the arse a few times. I do have a Musket and shot but don't want to jepordise my licence, Want to take a softly softly approach first |
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All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. Bazza There have been quite a few threads on this recently. The best one I read involved getting a trap (cat clamp). It doesn't harm the cats but they don't like being caged up for an hour or three. Apparently you can optionally take the caged cats along to somewhere (forgot where but I'm sure someone else will fill in the missing details) and they will release the cat for a release fee! A bit like car clamping but for cats! It certainly makes owners take more responsibility for their animals! David. |
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from "David \(Normandy\)" contains these words: All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. Bazza There have been quite a few threads on this recently. The best one I read involved getting a trap (cat clamp). It doesn't harm the cats but they don't like being caged up for an hour or three. Apparently you can optionally take the caged cats along to somewhere (forgot where but I'm sure someone else will fill in the missing details) and they will release the cat for a release fee! A bit like car clamping but for cats! It certainly makes owners take more responsibility for their animals! But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Occasionally I find a pile of stray feathers in my garden so I guess one of the local feline population [thankfully small] has had an extra meal courtesy of my bird table. Beryl |
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"David (Normandy)" writes
All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. Bazza There have been quite a few threads on this recently. The best one I read involved getting a trap (cat clamp). It doesn't harm the cats but they don't like being caged up for an hour or three. Apparently you can optionally take the caged cats along to somewhere (forgot where but I'm sure someone else will fill in the missing details) and they will release the cat for a release fee! A bit like car clamping but for cats! It certainly makes owners take more responsibility for their animals! Since there is no law saying that the owner must confine a cat to his own land, or stop it going on to someone else's land, trapping a cat and refusing to release it except for payment would seem to be a bit problematical. -- Kay |
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Feed them.
Try Chicken and wallpaper stripper but my favourite was beef and warfarin (100mg), The cats ceased to be a problem! -- Baal I smile and go off waving (Amiably) - for that's my way "Bazza" wrote in message ... Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"David (Normandy)" wrote in message ... All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. Bazza There have been quite a few threads on this recently. The best one I read involved getting a trap (cat clamp). It doesn't harm the cats but they don't like being caged up for an hour or three. Give it a good soak with the garden hose. Apparently, that helps. Graham |
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In message , Beryl Harwood
wrote But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! This is typical response from the irresponsible members of our society who don't bother to control their pets. I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Then don't keep cats. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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"graham" wrote in message news:NgEci.29720$NV3.17028@pd7urf2no... "David (Normandy)" wrote in message ... All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. Bazza There have been quite a few threads on this recently. The best one I read involved getting a trap (cat clamp). It doesn't harm the cats but they don't like being caged up for an hour or three. Give it a good soak with the garden hose. Apparently, that helps. Graham I would go with this, or a water pistol so long as it is not too high pressured. I have three cats and try to control them. Most times I fail, with two of them. The third prefers to go in our front garden. I have mentioned to neighbours that a water pistol aimed just right will do the trick. Just not too high pressure!! |
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"Beryl Harwood" wrote in message ... The message from "David \(Normandy\)" contains these words: But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Occasionally I find a pile of stray feathers in my garden so I guess one of the local feline population [thankfully small] has had an extra meal courtesy of my bird table. Beryl One responsible cat owner I know keeps hers on a leash when she lets it out. That way, it can roam over most of her front lawn but nobody else's. So simple! Graham |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Beryl Harwood wrote But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! This is typical response from the irresponsible members of our society who don't bother to control their pets. I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Then don't keep cats. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com you do know where cats originated..................no, you know nothing about them. |
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"Baal" wrote in message .. . Feed them. Try Chicken and wallpaper stripper but my favourite was beef and warfarin (100mg), The cats ceased to be a problem! -- Baal I smile and go off waving (Amiably) - for that's my way "Bazza" wrote in message ... Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I bet you a little fat chap with a bald head and plenty tattoos and your wear those short sleeve T shirts.....................right. |
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"graham" wrote in message news:X5Fci.29823$NV3.6771@pd7urf2no... "Beryl Harwood" wrote in message ... The message from "David \(Normandy\)" contains these words: But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Occasionally I find a pile of stray feathers in my garden so I guess one of the local feline population [thankfully small] has had an extra meal courtesy of my bird table. Beryl One responsible cat owner I know keeps hers on a leash when she lets it out. That way, it can roam over most of her front lawn but nobody else's. So simple! Graham Just 4 words stand out there and speak a thousand words .......... .. ""One responsible cat owner"" such a rare thing these days. Mike -- The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy Reunion Bournemouth August/September 2007 www.rneba.org.uk |
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Yes Baby wrote:
"Baal" wrote in message .. . Feed them. Try Chicken and wallpaper stripper but my favourite was beef and warfarin (100mg), The cats ceased to be a problem! -- Baal I smile and go off waving (Amiably) - for that's my way "Bazza" wrote in message ... Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I bet you a little fat chap with a bald head and plenty tattoos and your wear those short sleeve T shirts.....................right. Is that aimed at me Yes Baby?? I am 5'11", slim, head of hair, no tattoos and hate short sleeve shirts. I also abhor unnecessary suffering to any creatures and do not even kill flies out of hand. I am a committed meat eater but do not use insecticide in the garden,my plants are designed to encourage insect life, if greenfly are a pest in the greenhouse I introduce natural predators, everything goes in a circle. Whilst I am at it I also detest any form of killing for fun, as a kid I used to hunt rabbits with dogs and ferrets but they always ended up on the table. Deterrent is better than cure that is why I am interested in the item from the web link. Bazza |
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Bazza wrote:
Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) -- ßōyžėtė London, UK |
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In message , Yes Baby
wrote you do know where cats originated..................no, you know nothing about them. But what's this got to do with irresponsible cat owners? If the owners were aware or the origins and habits then they wouldn't be antisocial and keep them in an urban environment. Most owners seem to think that if the cat doesn't shit in their own back yard then they are a responsible owner. I bet these people would be the first to complain if the local yob climbed into their garden every day and dug up their flower beds to have a shit. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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In message , BoyPete
wrote Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Why is it always the victim of the vandalism that has to pay when the problem is the owner of the cat? Perhaps the solution is an ASBO? -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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BoyPete wrote:
Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...ategory=PEST-G Bazza |
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Bazza wrote:
BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. |
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Peter James wrote:
Bazza wrote: BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. For £19.99 I will give it a go, as I said I don't want to deter the Foxes which could happen if it was a permanent setup but with this I can target the cats from the house when I put out the left overs in the evenings(they do run away as soon as they see me, probably from the time I managed to soak them with the hosepipe) . The cats are always there waiting for me to walk back to the house and help themselves, can't blame them as it is a free meal to them but they often eat it all before the foxes appear. Sometimes the foxes do appear at the same time as the cats and it is quite amusing to watch them both circling the dish, dive in in turn to grab something and eat it at a safe distance, on one occasion a badger turned up at the same time, it just barged in, you couldn't see the fox and cat for dust. Maybe that is the answer, get a pet Badger, more interesting than a dog or a cat Bazza |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , Beryl Harwood wrote But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! This is typical response from the irresponsible members of our society who don't bother to control their pets. You, clearly, have never had a cat, or you would discover what has been said, you cannot keep them shut away like you can a dog, cats are, by nature, animals which roam. I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Then don't keep cats. Why? Cats are friendly animals, and are a joy to have around. |
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"Alan" wrote in message ... In message , BoyPete wrote Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Why is it always the victim of the vandalism that has to pay when the problem is the owner of the cat? Perhaps the solution is an ASBO? So, how would you control foxes and squirrels, the first one is a pain in the backside, the second is vermin. |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "Alan" wrote in message ... In message , BoyPete wrote Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Why is it always the victim of the vandalism that has to pay when the problem is the owner of the cat? Perhaps the solution is an ASBO? So, how would you control foxes and squirrels, the first one is a pain in the backside, the second is vermin. So are stray cats - on both counts! Graham |
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Bazza wrote:
Peter James wrote: Bazza wrote: BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. For £19.99 I will give it a go, as I said I don't want to deter the Foxes which could happen if it was a permanent setup but with this I can target the cats from the house when I put out the left overs in the evenings(they do run away as soon as they see me, probably from the time I managed to soak them with the hosepipe) . The cats are always there waiting for me to walk back to the house and help themselves, can't blame them as it is a free meal to them but they often eat it all before the foxes appear. Sometimes the foxes do appear at the same time as the cats and it is quite amusing to watch them both circling the dish, dive in in turn to grab something and eat it at a safe distance, on one occasion a badger turned up at the same time, it just barged in, you couldn't see the fox and cat for dust. Maybe that is the answer, get a pet Badger, more interesting than a dog or a cat Bazza Sigh, why is mine ignored by cats, are Manchester cats deaf? |
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Broadback wrote:
Bazza wrote: Peter James wrote: Bazza wrote: BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. For £19.99 I will give it a go, as I said I don't want to deter the Foxes which could happen if it was a permanent setup but with this I can target the cats from the house when I put out the left overs in the evenings(they do run away as soon as they see me, probably from the time I managed to soak them with the hosepipe) . The cats are always there waiting for me to walk back to the house and help themselves, can't blame them as it is a free meal to them but they often eat it all before the foxes appear. Sometimes the foxes do appear at the same time as the cats and it is quite amusing to watch them both circling the dish, dive in in turn to grab something and eat it at a safe distance, on one occasion a badger turned up at the same time, it just barged in, you couldn't see the fox and cat for dust. Maybe that is the answer, get a pet Badger, more interesting than a dog or a cat Bazza Sigh, why is mine ignored by cats, are Manchester cats deaf? Anarchistic cats? |
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:13:05 GMT, Alan Holmes wrote:
snip Cats are friendly animals, and are a joy to have around. Feed rats and they are friendly as well. -- Regards From Wane Smooth Help feed the Hungry,goto http://www.thehungersite.com It's Free! |
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In message , Alan Holmes
wrote You, clearly, have never had a cat, You don't have to keep a cat to be on the receiving of their habits or be a victim of the damage they do to a garden. or you would discover what has been said, you cannot keep them shut away like you can a dog, The owner has to take responsibility to provide an adequate home so they don't need to go into other peoples gardens to have a shit. With pet ownership there is a responsibly that property should be large enough for the animal being kept. If owners cannot provide for the needs of their own cat on their own property they are an unfit person to keep this kind of pet. cats are, by nature, animals which roam. A responsible person would not keep an animal that they cannot control. If the owner then attempts to excuse his own behaviour by saying that their pet needs to roam uncontrolled then I have to ask what should be classed as the vermin - the uncontrolled cat or the irresponsible and antisocial owner of the beast? I find it strange that some seemly intelligent people understand that their cat needs a large territory and then object to drastic measures by others to control the animal solely because of the cat owners negligence in not providing an adequate environment for their choice of animal to keep. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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In message , Alan Holmes
wrote So, how would you control foxes and squirrels, the first one is a pain in the backside, the second is vermin. Good point - welcome to the chicken and wallpaper stripper or the beef and warfarin camp. In my garden cats are NO different to animals you class as vermin and therefore should be treated in exactly the same way as you treat vermin. I suppose there is a more humane way. Around my area, once a month urban foxes are humanely trapped and taken to the countryside for release. Next release Little Totton, Essex. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
Cats in garden
Broadback wrote:
Bazza wrote: Peter James wrote: Bazza wrote: BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. For £19.99 I will give it a go, as I said I don't want to deter the Foxes which could happen if it was a permanent setup but with this I can target the cats from the house when I put out the left overs in the evenings(they do run away as soon as they see me, probably from the time I managed to soak them with the hosepipe) . The cats are always there waiting for me to walk back to the house and help themselves, can't blame them as it is a free meal to them but they often eat it all before the foxes appear. Sometimes the foxes do appear at the same time as the cats and it is quite amusing to watch them both circling the dish, dive in in turn to grab something and eat it at a safe distance, on one occasion a badger turned up at the same time, it just barged in, you couldn't see the fox and cat for dust. Maybe that is the answer, get a pet Badger, more interesting than a dog or a cat Bazza Sigh, why is mine ignored by cats, are Manchester cats deaf? I think that where you site them is critically important. You also need to move them around a little every 6 or 8 weeks. My rear garden has a fence on three sides and the house on the fourth, thus making an enclosed box. The sound from the cat scarer is nicely contained, and not everyone has the same garden configuration. Depending on the make of scarer you might have a 2 stage transmitter in there. One is audible and at that setting would keep anything out of the garden, including me. I set mine to in-audible, and as I say it works well. It is worth perservering with it. Good luck. |
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from Broadback contains these words: Bazza wrote: Peter James wrote: Bazza wrote: BoyPete wrote: Bazza wrote: Hi all, I encourage wildlife into my garden which is visited and nested by Birds, squirrels, Fox's,badgers,frogs,toads, newts and the occasional sloworm and grassnake, I also have an aviary with Cockatiels. All nice and cosy apart from 2 large black cats, these have collars and look well fed so I assume they are from some where down the street. They crap in the garden, have caught collared doves and the other birds and eat the food I put out for the Badgers and Fox's not to mention trying to terrorise my cockatiels. I have been looking for ways to discourage them without harming the rest of the wildlife. I don't want a dog or a cat, don't spend enough time at home to do them justice. I have looked at sensor watering systems etc.. but have come across this one: http://tinyurl.com/2evhnr. Anybody any experience of this or similar? I am a pretty good shot and lots of patience so quite fancy it Bazza Can't get your link to work Bazza. However, look at this........ http://www.bradshawsdirect.co.uk/Bra...uct/DVSCAR.htm :) Yes seen that type, don't want to deter the foxes though. This is the one I am looking at: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/...=ST05942&super category=G&branch=&wcategory=PEST-G Bazza I've got two sonic cat scarers. One in the front garden and one in the rear garden. They do work OK. Not identical to yours, but they work, and we haven't had a cat in the back garden for two years now. Worth every penny. For £19.99 I will give it a go, as I said I don't want to deter the Foxes which could happen if it was a permanent setup but with this I can target the cats from the house when I put out the left overs in the evenings(they do run away as soon as they see me, probably from the time I managed to soak them with the hosepipe) . The cats are always there waiting for me to walk back to the house and help themselves, can't blame them as it is a free meal to them but they often eat it all before the foxes appear. Sometimes the foxes do appear at the same time as the cats and it is quite amusing to watch them both circling the dish, dive in in turn to grab something and eat it at a safe distance, on one occasion a badger turned up at the same time, it just barged in, you couldn't see the fox and cat for dust. Maybe that is the answer, get a pet Badger, more interesting than a dog or a cat Bazza Sigh, why is mine ignored by cats, are Manchester cats deaf? Are there too many other noises so they learn to ignore it, along with all the traffic etc? Beryl |
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from Alan contains these words: In message , Beryl Harwood wrote But you don't 'own' a cat - it owns you!! This is typical response from the irresponsible members of our society who don't bother to control their pets. I have never been able to control where a cat 'performs' nor to stop them catching birds :( Then don't keep cats. I don't!!! I like to feed the birds that visit my garden! I am sure pleny here would have a much longer list than I can create but l love to see them, even in my tiny garden. Blackbird Blue Tit Chaffinch Coal Tit Collared Dove Dunnock Robin Greenfinch Wren House Sparrow Song Thrush Starling Jay Wood Pigeon Magpie Goldfinch Pied wagtail Lesser Spotted Woodpecker Nuthatch Great Tit Crow Beryl |
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Hello
I know this is an emotive subject and indeed I have already had my fingers burned when I added a link to an official government petition. However as this thread already exists I don't see that it would do harm to add it here! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ This is a much more level headed one from some of the extreme ones to be found and as such may get more attention. If you agree please vote. If you don't then you need do nothing. For the record I don't hate cats, I dislike the owners who buy/get cats for the kids and then leave the cats to roam free. I do indeed hate it when well fed cats kill the wildlife in my garden that I strive so hard to promote. I also do hate getting cats mess on me and finding my plats uprooted. I have raised the concern, lets see if those in charge of our destiny can come up with an answer. Thanks for your time. |
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Mikesndbs writes
Hello I know this is an emotive subject and indeed I have already had my fingers burned when I added a link to an official government petition. However as this thread already exists I don't see that it would do harm to add it here! Perhaps. But if we all follow your lead and post links to petitions about issues that we are concerned about, then the gardening content of the group will get swamped. -- Kay |
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Anne Jackson writes
The message from K contains these words: Mikesndbs writes Hello I know this is an emotive subject and indeed I have already had my fingers burned when I added a link to an official government petition. However as this thread already exists I don't see that it would do harm to add it here! Perhaps. But if we all follow your lead and post links to petitions about issues that we are concerned about, then the gardening content of the group will get swamped. Cats _are_ of concern to gardeners, though...as evidenced by the multitudes of threads in the past. Yes, but that petition isn't going to do anything about their defecating in the garden, which is what the multitudes of threads are about. I could start posting links to the Cats Protection League using the same logic. -- Kay |
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:26:50 -0700, Mikesndbs
wrote: Hello I know this is an emotive subject and indeed I have already had my fingers burned when I added a link to an official government petition. However as this thread already exists I don't see that it would do harm to add it here! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/control-pet-cats/ It's a pity you haven't something more worthwhile to worry about ffs. Why don't you start a new petition for all cats to wear a nappy? |
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Well at least I am trying!
And without suggesting any harm to the cats! Cats are as someone said here a concern to gardeners hence posting to a garden forum. Also, if some controls were brought in then it would stop the issue of cats messing in other people gardens, or at least make it the cat owner who has to got the time and expense of keeping their animals out of your garden. To those who have supported this thanks very much. To those who persistently moan and make witless comments go get a life! I will not come back to this thread or read any more replies. Oh! one last thing, another petition is for cats to attract a child benefit! this shows the level of some of the owners and why we need the government to make a ruling on the matter. |
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On Jul 7, 4:28 pm, K wrote:
Yes, but that petition isn't going to do anything about their defecating in the garden, which is what the multitudes of threads are about. I could start posting links to the Cats Protection League using the same logic. I usually have a couple of feral cats in my garden and I have learned to live with them even though I don't like them. Just recently there has only been one, my neighbour told me that a fox killed it and it will often kill cats, I have never heard of that before. We do get foxes in the garden and also deer, badger, ducks, pheasants. Our lawn sometimes resembles an animal lavatory but we have learned to live with that too, I just wish I could identify the poo so that I know who is doing what. Judith |
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Anne Jackson was thinking very hard :
The message from K contains these words: Mikesndbs writes Hello I know this is an emotive subject and indeed I have already had my fingers burned when I added a link to an official government petition. However as this thread already exists I don't see that it would do harm to add it here! Perhaps. But if we all follow your lead and post links to petitions about issues that we are concerned about, then the gardening content of the group will get swamped. Cats _are_ of concern to gardeners, though...as evidenced by the multitudes of threads in the past. Cats are wild animals that are just doing what is natural to them. -- Count Baldoni |
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