My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Judith

On 26/8/07 20:54, in article
,
" wrote:

My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Take it into a barn or outhouse that is frost free, or can be made that way,
keep it nearly dry but in as much light as you can manage. Put it outside
again once the danger of frost is past. Take cuttings. ;-)
Ask the donor what she does with hers! ;-)
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 26/08/2007 20:54:48, " wrote:
My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Wrap it up, like somebody I know.

On 26/8/07 22:38, in article , "Saxman"
wrote:

On 26/08/2007 20:54:48, " wrote:
My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Wrap it up, like somebody I know.

In a mountainous region of France, close to ski resorts, it might be risking
it. But ask the locals is usually safe.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

"judith wrote
My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13°C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

On 26 Aug, 23:06, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13°C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

Neriums are everywhere in France - and well established from Charente
to the south. There's never been problems with them, nor do we bring
them in doors for winter. Bordeaux's streets are planted with them,
even motorways. My cousins has a hedge of neriums - quite a sight in
the summer )

On Aug 26, 11:06 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"judith wrote My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13°C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

Thank you everyone who replied. I have been talking to the nursery
owner where my neighbours bought the plant. He tells me that because
of the altitude here, we are very high up and usually get the first
snows on Christmas Eve, the plant will have to come in to a light,
frost free place, it cannot survive the below zero temperatures it
would be subjected to for 3 months or so.

I walked round the village yesterday, I could not see a single one,
except in pots round swimming pools. Because the plant has huge
sentimental value to me, it was given as a welcome, I could not bear
to lose it. I will take a few cuttings. I am anxious about it only
because it means a lot to me.

Judith

On 26/8/07 23:45, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 26 Aug, 23:06, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13?C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

Neriums are everywhere in France - and well established from Charente
to the south. There's never been problems with them, nor do we bring
them in doors for winter. Bordeaux's streets are planted with them,
even motorways. My cousins has a hedge of neriums - quite a sight in
the summer )


Dangerous advice to someone who lives in Clermont Ferrand where the winter
climate does not resemble that of Bordeaux.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 27/8/07 11:06, in article
,
" wrote:

On Aug 26, 11:06 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"judith wrote My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full
time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13?C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

Thank you everyone who replied. I have been talking to the nursery
owner where my neighbours bought the plant. He tells me that because
of the altitude here, we are very high up and usually get the first
snows on Christmas Eve, the plant will have to come in to a light,
frost free place, it cannot survive the below zero temperatures it
would be subjected to for 3 months or so.

I walked round the village yesterday, I could not see a single one,
except in pots round swimming pools. Because the plant has huge
sentimental value to me, it was given as a welcome, I could not bear
to lose it. I will take a few cuttings. I am anxious about it only
because it means a lot to me.

Judith

I would think cold and wet roots are serious enemies, too. But they should
flourish in your very hot summers whereas here, they don't flower as
profusely as they do in warmer places.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On Aug 27, 11:45 am, Sacha wrote:
On 27/8/07 11:06, in article
m,





" wrote:
On Aug 26, 11:06 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"judith wrote My French neighbours have welcomed us to the village, full
time
instead of Maison Secondaire, by giving me this lovely huge urn with
an Oleander of around 1 metre in it. We have extreme temperatures
here in Winter. As Oleander is not suited to these temperatures, what
advice can you give so that it survives over Winter?

Where some friends live in France has extreme temperatures during
winter, -13?C a couple of years ago, and there are lots of Oleanders planted
around there. Some suffer damage but they soon grow back.
Take a good look around and check to see if there are any planted in gardens
near where you are.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

Thank you everyone who replied. I have been talking to the nursery
owner where my neighbours bought the plant. He tells me that because
of the altitude here, we are very high up and usually get the first
snows on Christmas Eve, the plant will have to come in to a light,
frost free place, it cannot survive the below zero temperatures it
would be subjected to for 3 months or so.

I walked round the village yesterday, I could not see a single one,
except in pots round swimming pools. Because the plant has huge
sentimental value to me, it was given as a welcome, I could not bear
to lose it. I will take a few cuttings. I am anxious about it only
because it means a lot to me.

Judith

I would think cold and wet roots are serious enemies, too. But they should
flourish in your very hot summers whereas here, they don't flower as
profusely as they do in warmer places.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I need advice on watering when I bring the pot in. It will take two
men to lift it, it is a huge beautiful urn, it will look good in the
Summer sitting room, which is unused in Winter as it is too large to
heat, it can stand in front of triple glass doors to give it plenty of
light. I will send you a picture, by email, of it when Edward shows
me how to attach it as I don't know how to do it here.

Judith

On 27/8/07 13:54, in article
,
" wrote:

On Aug 27, 11:45 am, Sacha wrote:
snip

I would think cold and wet roots are serious enemies, too. But they should
flourish in your very hot summers whereas here, they don't flower as
profusely as they do in warmer places.


- Show quoted text -

I need advice on watering when I bring the pot in. It will take two
men to lift it, it is a huge beautiful urn, it will look good in the
Summer sitting room, which is unused in Winter as it is too large to
heat, it can stand in front of triple glass doors to give it plenty of
light. I will send you a picture, by email, of it when Edward shows
me how to attach it as I don't know how to do it here.

Judith


Ray says to water it only when it's almost dry and always to allow the all
important drainage, so make sure the pot is raised above a saucer that can
catch the water. Water in the morning so that it's not left with cold water
round its roots at night. Presumably that sitting room does stay frost free
with residual warmth from the rest of the house? Draw curtains in the early
evening, so that the plant doesn't go from sunny bright warm days, to bitter
cold nights all in one fell swoop!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 27 Aug, 11:44, Sacha wrote:

Dangerous advice to someone who lives in Clermont Ferrand where the winter
climate does not resemble that of Bordeaux.

Crap dig at me again Mrs Hubbard for the average temp for auvergne is
usually 12C. I leaved there for a few years, close to the border with
the midi pyrenees. Also my father lived in Puy de Domes for some
considerable time too. The coldest year in clermont was 1956 with
minus 13C. Well ... there's snow off course, in Bordeaux too if you
must kinow, but that doesn't mean it will be antartica, innit. As for
neriums not exsisting in the auvergne beside next to swimming pools is
a lot of rubbish. I'll come back to you when I've found some proof.

On 27/8/07 14:09, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 27 Aug, 11:44, Sacha wrote:

Dangerous advice to someone who lives in Clermont Ferrand where the winter
climate does not resemble that of Bordeaux.

Crap dig at me again Mrs Hubbard for the average temp for auvergne is
usually 12C. I leaved there for a few years, close to the border with
the midi pyrenees. Also my father lived in Puy de Domes for some
considerable time too. The coldest year in clermont was 1956 with
minus 13C. Well ... there's snow off course, in Bordeaux too if you
must kinow, but that doesn't mean it will be antartica, innit. As for
neriums not exsisting in the auvergne beside next to swimming pools is
a lot of rubbish. I'll come back to you when I've found some proof.


I daresay Judith knows her own village and neighbours best, Puce.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 27 Aug, 14:11, Sacha wrote:
I daresay Judith knows her own village and neighbours best, Puce.

I know many regions of France as I've lived there and travel with my
father for many years. And, I'm French Mrs Hubbard. You have to give
me credit for something. I, like you, don't have a Ray in my back
garden.

So for you, the last time because you give me the creeps ....'tu
l'ane' is a name given by people in the auvergne to the laurier rose,
which is nerium or oleander. This name was because it used to kill
donkeys after they ate a couple of mouth full. Snow is a problem if it
stays on the neriums - you can keep neriums outside against a wall as
long as snow doesn't stay too long on them. In January I spent ages
going around our garden taking the snow off mimosa, neriums, albizias
etc. That's all what is needed. If you are *that* worried you can
cover it but it isn't necessary. Also laurier rose don't like dry
conditions and prefers wet feet and sunny head.

On Aug 27, 2:00 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 27/8/07 13:54, in article
om,







" wrote:
On Aug 27, 11:45 am, Sacha wrote:
snip

I would think cold and wet roots are serious enemies, too. But they should
flourish in your very hot summers whereas here, they don't flower as
profusely as they do in warmer places.

- Show quoted text -

I need advice on watering when I bring the pot in. It will take two
men to lift it, it is a huge beautiful urn, it will look good in the
Summer sitting room, which is unused in Winter as it is too large to
heat, it can stand in front of triple glass doors to give it plenty of
light. I will send you a picture, by email, of it when Edward shows
me how to attach it as I don't know how to do it here.

Judith

Ray says to water it only when it's almost dry and always to allow the all
important drainage, so make sure the pot is raised above a saucer that can
catch the water. Water in the morning so that it's not left with cold water
round its roots at night. Presumably that sitting room does stay frost free
with residual warmth from the rest of the house? Draw curtains in the early
evening, so that the plant doesn't go from sunny bright warm days, to bitter
cold nights all in one fell swoop!
--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for the info Sacha. We are not near the midi-Pyrenees, we are
in Auverge, in the centre, Puy de Dome. Further south of us is the
Cantal which is nearer to the midi-Pyrenees,it is warmer.

The recorded temperature in January 1st last year was minus 20C but on
the ski slopes, also in the Puy de Dome, it was zero degrees, much
warmer. Where we are, temperatures much lower than minus 20 have been
quite common, therefore it is not feasible for us to keep it outside.
Maybe other areas in the Puy de Dome may be possible but certainly not
up here in the Foret Livdrados.

Judith