In article ,
"Mary Fisher" writes:
|
| I am getting too old. My memory of "where" is not what it was.
| If I recall, it was in some 19th century childrens' books and others
| that had references to empty houses.
|
| I doubt that wax would have been left in empty houses.

Yes, it was. The aristocracy often lived in different houses during
different times of year, and such durable consumables were not moved
with the inhabitants. The same would have happened with the people
(e.g. some shepherds) who had fixed accomodation but lived away from
it for extended periods.

| Beeswax was the standard hard
| wax in the UK before the industrial revolution.
|
| You think I don't know that? :-)

Of course you do - others may not.

| I have seen that - but am not prepared to swear that the mice regarded
| them as MUCH more edible than PVC. The damage was the amount that is
| typical for potatoes or PVC.
|
| So that - and your C19th children's books, are your evidence?

Sigh. It is not all. As I said, I have had several people tell me
the same, and I have seen references in other books, too.

| I asked for evidence. I doubt that you'd accept that :-)

I would accept it as evidence. If you can provide evidence that you
know the difference between mouse damage and other damage, I would
regard it as proof that mice sometimes eat such candles. I did NOT
claim that beeswax was a significant item of a mouses diet, or that
they favoured it as food.

Please do distinguish (a) evidence from proof and (b) evidence of
occurrence from evidence of prevalence.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

|
| I doubt that wax would have been left in empty houses.

Yes, it was. The aristocracy often lived in different houses during
different times of year, and such durable consumables were not moved
with the inhabitants. The same would have happened with the people
(e.g. some shepherds) who had fixed accomodation but lived away from
it for extended periods.

Shepherds would not have used beeswax candles.

I think I know more about this subject than you do.

I'm sure there are many things you know more about than I do :-)

Mary

In article ,
"Mary Fisher" writes:
|
| | I doubt that wax would have been left in empty houses.
|
| Yes, it was. The aristocracy often lived in different houses during
| different times of year, and such durable consumables were not moved
| with the inhabitants. The same would have happened with the people
| (e.g. some shepherds) who had fixed accomodation but lived away from
| it for extended periods.
|
| Shepherds would not have used beeswax candles.

Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"Mary Fisher" writes:
|
| | I doubt that wax would have been left in empty houses.
|
| Yes, it was. The aristocracy often lived in different houses during
| different times of year, and such durable consumables were not moved
| with the inhabitants. The same would have happened with the people
| (e.g. some shepherds) who had fixed accomodation but lived away from
| it for extended periods.
|
| Shepherds would not have used beeswax candles.

Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Very big sigh


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , Mary Fisher
says...


Very big sigh



Even bigger sigh!
While you can both wax lyrical on the subject I'm tempted to knock your
heads together.
The snarling is getting on my wick :-)
Snuff it!
--
David in Normandy.
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"David in Normandy" wrote in message
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In article , Mary Fisher
says...


Very big sigh



Even bigger sigh!
While you can both wax lyrical on the subject I'm tempted to knock your
heads together.
The snarling is getting on my wick :-)
Snuff it!

:-)

If a candle is snuffed it burns more brightly ...

My big sigh was the last of my contributions but, although I'm flattered,
you didn't have to read it :-)

Mary

In article , Mary Fisher
says...
My big sigh was the last of my contributions but, although I'm flattered,
you didn't have to read it :-)

Mary


I have a passing interest in candles, so followed the debate. I make my
own occasionally from left over wax of commercial candles. The likes of
Ikea sell church candles with a too-small wick, so they burn and leave
wide walls of wax which have to be cut off periodically. So rather than
wasting the wax I make new ones, moulding them with kitchen foil
cardboard inners with a piece of string fixed between both ends. Works
well, provided the hot wax doesn't melt the selotape holding the ends in
and leak.
--
David in Normandy.
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On 10 Oct, 12:11, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?

wrote in message
ups.com...
On 10 Oct, 12:11, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?


No. BMW stands for Berlin Motor Works :-))

Kindest regards

Mike


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On Oct 10, 5:22 pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
wrote in message

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On 10 Oct, 12:11, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?

No. BMW stands for Berlin Motor Works :-))


This is completetley tangential and not relevant to anything important
but it is
Bayerische Motoren Werke which is German for Bavarian Motor Works.

Des


Kindest regards

Mike

--www.rneba.org.ukfor the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navywww.rneba.org.ukto find your ex-Greenie mess mateswww.iowtours.comfor all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand

On Oct 10, 4:50 pm, wrote:
On 10 Oct, 12:11, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:

Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?

Blessed.

Cat(h)

On 10 Oct, 17:40, "Cat(h)" wrote:
Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?

Blessed.

Off course! While you're there ... saturday greniad crossword, stuck
on: across 1 Liniment - cabinet room (anag) (11) - I've already got 2
down for Cut Grass (3) which is Mow, 3 down Full (7) which is replete,
giving me for 1 across -M-R-----O-. The O is from 6 down Banish from
group (9) which I think is ostricise. I haven't found 5 down One of
elder gods defeated by Zeus (5) which should be the 8th letter.
Anyone?

In reply to ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 10 Oct, 17:40, "Cat(h)" wrote:
Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the
B stands for Blue?

Blessed.

Off course! While you're there ... saturday greniad crossword, stuck
on: across 1 Liniment - cabinet room (anag) (11) - I've already got 2
down for Cut Grass (3) which is Mow, 3 down Full (7) which is replete,
giving me for 1 across -M-R-----O-. The O is from 6 down Banish from
group (9) which I think is ostricise. I haven't found 5 down One of
elder gods defeated by Zeus (5) which should be the 8th letter.
Anyone?

embrocation

In article . com,
says...
On 10 Oct, 12:11, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
Sigh. Votive candles were beeswax. I was given one as part of my
confirmation, as a symbol, to keep. Roman catholics also burnt candles
in front of images of the BVM, if they could afford them. A shepherd
would clearly not have used beeswax candles for light, but might well
have had one or two, small, votive candles.

Read that as : Catholics burnt candles in front of images of the BMW
if they could afford them. Now, VM stands for Virgin Mary. Does the B
stands for Blue?


Blessed I think?
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