On Oct 15, 5:27 am, "@@^" wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:07:52 +0100, Elaine Jones

wrote:
Switched on Radio 2 just now, in the middle of a discussion on the
government's proposal to move to UHT milk in order to cut down the
"carbon footprint" of the product.

The majority of comments to Jeremy Vine's show were stating that UHT
is horrible and they'd drink much less if UHT were to be the only
option.

http://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htm

Dangers Of Milk And
Dairy Products - The Facts
By Dave Rietz
Webmasterwww.notmilk.com

Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until
it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a
Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a
wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a
cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones,
scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides,
dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful
antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and
viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate...
including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ...
(the 50's strontium-90 problem).

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICAhttp://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html(1998)

Rank Total Description

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)

(2a and 7a were added for completeness)

(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal
Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law
enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the
medical system!)

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-
like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical
in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any
cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we
suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow
quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they
need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they
do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(Seehttp://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txtfor a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of
milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of
cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of
butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of
milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent
orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars
inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE
milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein
Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that
important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden
from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read
enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their
country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed
in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast
feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous
because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as
mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board athttp://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.htmlto review a DAIRY study that
confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

IGF-1 INCREASES

This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk
a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24
ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming
12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD
SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical
milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from
dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We
have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but
considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.

FAT

Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.

Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept
of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the
54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice
cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk
derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a
significant cause for their weight and health problem.

CALCIUM

Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes...
from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount
of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.

The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has
insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount
of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of
12 years?

Read more about it at:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.htmlArticle on the 78,000 nurse
studyhttp://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.htmlCALCIUM AND BONE DISEASEhttp://www.notmilk.com/badbones.htmlWHO GETS BONE DISEASE?http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txtCRIPPLING BONEHEADShttp://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.htmlConsolidated info

Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No
matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and
used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the
greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big
bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per
cup) of calcium.

Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:

Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794

The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended
three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that
only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest
it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3
magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of
calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only
98.38mg of calcium is usable.

It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one
does not lose.

PROTEIN

Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein
content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH
calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets
(meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.

THE 'WHOLESOME' PROTEIN MYTH

87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.

Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:

WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75

(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to
make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.

Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was
Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza.
For the whole Flo-Jo story:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.ht...112398.htmlfor the whole story.

BACTERIA

Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for
bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets
to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees
Fahrenheit.

To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several
minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!

Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk
DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very
quickly.

PUS

ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have
up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live
bacteria... before it is kept off the market.

That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to
750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).

1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) = 532,323,450 pus cells ~ ...

read more »



This will bring the dairy industry damage control goons out in droves.

Think I see some coming now.........

On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:07:13 -0700, "Sgt. Giggles of the Kamikaze
Gasbag Squadron" wrote:

On Oct 15, 5:27 am, "@@^" wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:07:52 +0100, Elaine Jones

wrote:
Switched on Radio 2 just now, in the middle of a discussion on the
government's proposal to move to UHT milk in order to cut down the
"carbon footprint" of the product.

The majority of comments to Jeremy Vine's show were stating that UHT
is horrible and they'd drink much less if UHT were to be the only
option.

http://www.rense.com/general26/milk.htm

Dangers Of Milk And
Dairy Products - The Facts
By Dave Rietz
Webmasterwww.notmilk.com

Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until
it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a
Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a
wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a
cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones,
scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides,
dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful
antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and
viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate...
including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ...
(the 50's strontium-90 problem).

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICAhttp://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html(1998)

Rank Total Description

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)

(2a and 7a were added for completeness)

(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal
Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law
enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the
medical system!)

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-
like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical
in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any
cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we
suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow
quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they
need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they
do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(Seehttp://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txtfor a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of
milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of
cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of
butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of
milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent
orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars
inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE
milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein
Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that
important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden
from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read
enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their
country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed
in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast
feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous
because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as
mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board athttp://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.htmlto review a DAIRY study that
confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

IGF-1 INCREASES

This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk
a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24
ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming
12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD
SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical
milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from
dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We
have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but
considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.

FAT

Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.

Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept
of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the
54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice
cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk
derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a
significant cause for their weight and health problem.

CALCIUM

Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes...
from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount
of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.

The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has
insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount
of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of
12 years?

Read more about it at:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.htmlArticle on the 78,000 nurse
studyhttp://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.htmlCALCIUM AND BONE DISEASEhttp://www.notmilk.com/badbones.htmlWHO GETS BONE DISEASE?http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txtCRIPPLING BONEHEADShttp://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.htmlConsolidated info

Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No
matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and
used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the
greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big
bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per
cup) of calcium.

Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:

Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794

The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended
three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that
only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest
it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3
magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of
calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only
98.38mg of calcium is usable.

It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one
does not lose.

PROTEIN

Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein
content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH
calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets
(meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.

THE 'WHOLESOME' PROTEIN MYTH

87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.

Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:

WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75

(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)

80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to
make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.

Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was
Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza.
For the whole Flo-Jo story:

http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.ht...112398.htmlfor the whole story.

BACTERIA

Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for
bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets
to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees
Fahrenheit.

To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several
minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!

Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk
DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very
quickly.

PUS

ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have
up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live
bacteria... before it is kept off the market.

That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to
750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).

1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) = 532,323,450 pus cells ~ ...

read more »



This will bring the dairy industry damage control goons out in droves.

Think I see some coming now.........

They're already at it!!




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Hansom 0++0




Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!


PRAYER FOR A NATION


When Pastor Joe Wright, of Central Christian Church, was asked
to open the new session of the Kansas Senate, everyone was expecting
the usual politically correct generalities.
But what they heard instead was this:

Heavenly Father, we come before You today to ask Your forgiveness
and seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says,
‘Woe on those who call evil good,’ but that’s exactly what we have done.
We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and inverted our values.

We confess that:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it pluralism;

We have, worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism;

We have endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle;

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery;

We have neglected the needy and called it self-preservation;

We have killed our unborn and called it choice;

We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem;

We have abused power and called it political savvy;

We have coveted our neighbour’s possessions and called it ambition;

We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression;

We have ridiculed the time-honoured values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, 0 God, and know our hearts today; try us and see if there be some wicked way in us;
cleanse us from every sin and set us free. Guide and bless these men and women who have
been sent here by the people of Kansas, and who have been ordained by You, to govern this great state.

Grant them Your wisdom to rule and may their decisions direct us to the centre of Your will. I ask it in the name of Your Son, the Living Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.”


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And your point is?