Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

In article ,
says...
Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.



Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

Judith

In article . com,
says...
On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

Judith


I don't think so, the two toughest are Cirrhosa and armandii, on a wall I
am not sure what you would get away with but from previous threads your
place sounds rather cold in winter!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
Charlie Pridham writes:
| In article . com,
| says...
|
| Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
| east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
| March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
| conditions?
|
| I don't think so, the two toughest are Cirrhosa and armandii, on a wall I
| am not sure what you would get away with but from previous threads your
| place sounds rather cold in winter!

Yes. Both are worth a go, but neither is truly hardy. C. armandii
doesn't like strong winds or heavy snow much, either.

As far as I know, the ONLY evergreen climber that will take serious
cold is Hedera helix, followed by H. colchica. But there are plenty
that will take current UK winters in all but the worst places; if
we revert to those of 25 years back, that will no longer hold.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Oct 27, 5:35 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article . com,
says...



On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

Judith

I don't think so, the two toughest are Cirrhosa and armandii, on a wall I
am not sure what you would get away with but from previous threads your
place sounds rather cold in winter!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea- Hide quoted text -

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It is Charlie, any suggestions at all for something, anything
evergreeen, that may survive?

Judith

In article .com,
says...
On Oct 27, 5:35 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article . com,
says...



On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

Judith

I don't think so, the two toughest are Cirrhosa and armandii, on a wall I
am not sure what you would get away with but from previous threads your
place sounds rather cold in winter!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It is Charlie, any suggestions at all for something, anything
evergreeen, that may survive?

Judith


For reliability I would consider wall training a hardy everygreen shrub,
I am just not familar with the climate in that part of france, but even
ivy can look awful in exposed cold places! If you could give some idea of
the sorts of plants that appear to be doing well around you that may
help.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On Oct 27, 3:59 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:56:53 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:





On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

RHShttp://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/hydehall/archive/hydehallpom05j...
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

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You Darling, thank you. Now I have to see if I can find it in France
otherwise Charlie will be sending me one next Spring.

Judith

In article ,
lid says...
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:27:19 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 27, 3:59 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:56:53 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:





On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

RHShttp://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/hydehall/archive/hydehallpom05j...

You Darling, thank you. Now I have to see if I can find it in France
otherwise Charlie will be sending me one next Spring.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

I'm waiting for somebody to tell me just how hardy it is.

I couldn't get the page to open, what is it about?
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
lid says...
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:38:22 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:27:19 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 27, 3:59 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:56:53 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:





On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

RHShttp://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/hydehall/archive/hydehallpom05j...

You Darling, thank you. Now I have to see if I can find it in France
otherwise Charlie will be sending me one next Spring.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

I'm waiting for somebody to tell me just how hardy it is.

I couldn't get the page to open, what is it about?

Googlegroups has mangled the URL.
It was about Clematis cirrhosa var. purpurascens 'Freckles'

http://tinyurl.com/2fsolf
or
http://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/garden...llpom05jan.asp

In case you still can't access it is here is the text

Gardens

RHS Garden Hyde Hall
Harlow Carr | Hyde Hall | Rosemoor | Wisley |

Thanks for that (my news reader seems to have snipped it from the reply
but its there in your post)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On Oct 27, 4:47 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:27:19 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:





On Oct 27, 3:59 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:56:53 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

, RHShttp://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/hydehall/archive/hydehallpom05j...
You Darling, thank you. Now I have to see if I can find it in France
otherwise Charlie will be sending me one next Spring.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

I'm waiting for somebody to tell me just how hardy it is.
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks Martin, hopefully it is hardy, if anyone knows Charlie will.

Judith

In article . com,
says...
On Oct 27, 4:47 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:27:19 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:





On Oct 27, 3:59 pm, Martin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:56:53 -0000, "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 27, 3:44 pm, Charlie Pridham
wrote:
In article ,
says... Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to cover
the side wall of a brick garage. The plants are to go into 2 wooden
planters which are each about 2 feet wide by 4 feet long and about 2 feet in
depth, so the plants shouldn't be too invasive or vigorous. Ivy is an
obvious choice, but it might be too invasive? Is there anything else that
would do the job better?

Many thanks in advance.

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwallwww.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Charlie, can I tag on here, I want a clematis, hardy, evergreen, south
east facing, the Auvergne, France, snow in December and Jan Feb and
March pretty vicious. Is there anything I could plant in these
conditions?

, RHShttp://www.rhs.org.uk/WhatsOn/gardens/hydehall/archive/hydehallpom05j...
You Darling, thank you. Now I have to see if I can find it in France
otherwise Charlie will be sending me one next Spring.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

I'm waiting for somebody to tell me just how hardy it is.
--

Martin- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks Martin, hopefully it is hardy, if anyone knows Charlie will.

All I can say is its all right at -9c but did not flower well for nearly
a year after, as a plant I find it very untidy and it flowers all summer
as well as November to april, but unles you get under the flowers they
are a bit shabby, best grown on an arch in my opinion so you are able to
look up into the flowers. but of course in a cold place you have no
choice but to put it onto a wall!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article , Martin
writes

I'm waiting for somebody to tell me just how hardy it is.


I didn't find it liked being in a pot, even a large one, it does a lot
better in the ground.
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

"Charlie Pridham" wrote

Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.

Yes, sorry. The garden is on the south of the house, and the planter box
itself faces west, so it should be reasonably bright and fairly sheltered.
We're in Bolton, so it's generally a bit damp and chilly.

Many thanks.

In article ,
says...

"Charlie Pridham" wrote

Hello, All. I'm looking for recommendations for evergreen climbers to

Which way is it facing and where are you? it makes a big difference.

Yes, sorry. The garden is on the south of the house, and the planter box
itself faces west, so it should be reasonably bright and fairly sheltered.
We're in Bolton, so it's generally a bit damp and chilly.

Many thanks.




A west facing wall with some shelter, you ought to be able to grow
Clematis armandii, Clematis cirrhosa balearica, Holboellia latifolia,
Passiflora caerulea. Lonicera japonica (I prefer the form Acumen for
leaves) If we had a stinker of a winter all would be damaged or killed.
As soon as I send this I will probably think of more!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea