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'Salcombe rosemary'
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
'Salcombe rosemary'
Sacha wrote:
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! And the green-eyed monster rears his head again! Just lovely. At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the owner said had been there for a number of years. They're predicting mid-60sF today, so hopefully I'll start sticking garlic cloves in the freshly rototilled bed. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think? Judith |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On 31/10/07 13:33, in article ,
"Gary Woods" wrote: Sacha wrote: As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! And the green-eyed monster rears his head again! Just lovely. It really is amazing! I just wish it would get through winters here. I'm thinking we're going to have to build a wall inside a greenhouse just to grow that. ;-) At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the owner said had been there for a number of years. Yes, many others will survive here. We're growing one in our garden called R. 'Marenca' and it's another lovely one - prostrate but with bits that sort of go off in their own direction! It's nothing like as long as the Salcombe rosemary, though. They're predicting mid-60sF today, so hopefully I'll start sticking garlic cloves in the freshly rototilled bed. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G According to the weather widget on my Mac it's 48F in Plymouth (30 mins from here) and we have patches of blue sky with some ominous clouds but I don't feel cold, though this morning was a little brisk. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
'Salcombe rosemary'
In article , Gary Woods writes: | Sacha wrote: | | As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also | trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! | | And the green-eyed monster rears his head again! | Just lovely. It is rather nice, and is something that you are quite happy to brush against as you walk past. Not all trailers are like that .... | At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings | to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a | large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the | owner said had been there for a number of years. That was true even for me before the last decade or so. My garden is a wind trap, and the combination of -10 to -15 and a steady wind is too much for such things. But, recently, no problem - though I couldn't grow that. My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up, and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more). Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On Oct 31, 1:44 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 31/10/07 13:39, in article . com, "judith.lea" wrote: On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think? Judith Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as it grows, though! I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very much wants some cuttings! -- Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.'- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Shame it won't be any good here, it looks spectacular. It would be great if it were identified exactly, surely there must be someone who knows it? Judith |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:35:58 +0000, Sacha
wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg Beautiful. It's on my wish list Sacha! Pam in Bristol |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On 31/10/07 15:09, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:35:58 +0000, Sacha wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg Beautiful. It's on my wish list Sacha! Pam in Bristol When are you moving to Salcombe, Pam? ;-)) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
'Salcombe rosemary'
"Nick Maclaren" wrote .. My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up, and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more). Try growing it in a biggish pot (with decent holes in the bottom) of free draining (John Innes + gravel) and let it root through the pot into the ground. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On 31/10/07 14:22, in article
, "judith.lea" wrote: snip Shame it won't be any good here, it looks spectacular. It would be great if it were identified exactly, surely there must be someone who knows it? Judith The best guess is that it's a sport of 'something else' but nobody can get closer than that. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
'Salcombe rosemary'
"Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea" wrote: On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think? Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as it grows, though! I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very much wants some cuttings! Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters. I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here but their winters go much lower than here but are dry. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
'Salcombe rosemary'
On 31/10/07 16:30, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea" wrote: On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think? Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as it grows, though! I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very much wants some cuttings! Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters. I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here but their winters go much lower than here but are dry. Our guess is the wet has an awful lot to do with it here. Some things just don't like having wet *and* cold feet for months on end. But in this case, because we can grow other rosemaries, I'd imagine the cold and the frosts we do get, must put the kybosh on some things. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
'Salcombe rosemary'
In article , "Bob Hobden" writes: | . | My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may | be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up, | and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more). | | Try growing it in a biggish pot (with decent holes in the bottom) of free | draining (John Innes + gravel) and let it root through the pot into the | ground. That's one technique, and is fine for warm, wet winters. Mine is to layer them regularly, and to regard them as short-lived. That works better in cold winters. I find that they die only when getting established, and when they get old, and layering resolves the latter problem. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
'Salcombe rosemary'
In article ,
says... On 31/10/07 16:30, in article , "Bob Hobden" wrote: "Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea" wrote: On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote: This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it. I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here. As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here. I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if he'd like some cuttings! http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think? Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as it grows, though! I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very much wants some cuttings! Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters. I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here but their winters go much lower than here but are dry. Our guess is the wet has an awful lot to do with it here. Some things just don't like having wet *and* cold feet for months on end. But in this case, because we can grow other rosemaries, I'd imagine the cold and the frosts we do get, must put the kybosh on some things. I don't think cold summers (relative I know!) help as the plants do not ripen wood properly letting rots in. -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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