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Sacha 31-10-2007 12:35 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Gary Woods 31-10-2007 01:33 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
Sacha wrote:

As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back!


And the green-eyed monster rears his head again!
Just lovely.
At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings
to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a
large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the
owner said had been there for a number of years.
They're predicting mid-60sF today, so hopefully I'll start sticking garlic
cloves in the freshly rototilled bed.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

judith.lea 31-10-2007 01:39 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?

Judith


Sacha 31-10-2007 01:44 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 13:39, in article
, "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?

Judith

Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 31-10-2007 01:49 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 13:33, in article ,
"Gary Woods" wrote:

Sacha wrote:

As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back!


And the green-eyed monster rears his head again!
Just lovely.


It really is amazing! I just wish it would get through winters here. I'm
thinking we're going to have to build a wall inside a greenhouse just to
grow that. ;-)

At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings
to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a
large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the
owner said had been there for a number of years.


Yes, many others will survive here. We're growing one in our garden called
R. 'Marenca' and it's another lovely one - prostrate but with bits that sort
of go off in their own direction! It's nothing like as long as the Salcombe
rosemary, though.

They're predicting mid-60sF today, so hopefully I'll start sticking garlic
cloves in the freshly rototilled bed.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


According to the weather widget on my Mac it's 48F in Plymouth (30 mins from
here) and we have patches of blue sky with some ominous clouds but I don't
feel cold, though this morning was a little brisk.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Nick Maclaren 31-10-2007 02:12 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

In article ,
Gary Woods writes:
| Sacha wrote:
|
| As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
| trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back!
|
| And the green-eyed monster rears his head again!
| Just lovely.

It is rather nice, and is something that you are quite happy to brush
against as you walk past. Not all trailers are like that ....

| At my location, NO rosemary is winter hardy. I started a few from cuttings
| to winter and cook with indoors. I remember down in Virginia seeing a
| large rosemary plant in a sheltered spot in front of a book ship, which the
| owner said had been there for a number of years.

That was true even for me before the last decade or so. My garden is
a wind trap, and the combination of -10 to -15 and a steady wind is
too much for such things. But, recently, no problem - though I couldn't
grow that.

My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may
be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up,
and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

judith.lea 31-10-2007 02:22 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On Oct 31, 1:44 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 31/10/07 13:39, in article
. com, "judith.lea"





wrote:
On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?


Judith


Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Shame it won't be any good here, it looks spectacular. It would be
great if it were identified exactly, surely there must be someone who
knows it?

Judith


Pam Moore 31-10-2007 03:09 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:35:58 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


Beautiful.
It's on my wish list Sacha!

Pam in Bristol

Sacha 31-10-2007 04:22 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 15:09, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:35:58 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

Beautiful.
It's on my wish list Sacha!

Pam in Bristol


When are you moving to Salcombe, Pam? ;-))
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Bob Hobden 31-10-2007 04:26 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"Nick Maclaren" wrote
..
My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may
be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up,
and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more).

Try growing it in a biggish pot (with decent holes in the bottom) of free
draining (John Innes + gravel) and let it root through the pot into the
ground.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK



Sacha 31-10-2007 04:27 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 14:22, in article
, "judith.lea"
wrote:
snip Shame it won't be any good here, it looks spectacular. It would be
great if it were identified exactly, surely there must be someone who
knows it?

Judith


The best guess is that it's a sport of 'something else' but nobody can get
closer than that.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Bob Hobden 31-10-2007 04:30 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?


Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore
as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is
why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters.
I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here
but their winters go much lower than here but are dry.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK



Sacha 31-10-2007 04:35 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 16:30, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?


Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore
as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is
why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters.
I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here
but their winters go much lower than here but are dry.


Our guess is the wet has an awful lot to do with it here. Some things just
don't like having wet *and* cold feet for months on end. But in this case,
because we can grow other rosemaries, I'd imagine the cold and the frosts we
do get, must put the kybosh on some things.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Nick Maclaren 31-10-2007 04:46 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

In article ,
"Bob Hobden" writes:
| .
| My current rosemary and thyme problems are root rot. The soil may
| be free-draining, but that doesn't help if the wet doesn't let up,
| and is combined with occasional moderate frosts (-5 or more).
|
| Try growing it in a biggish pot (with decent holes in the bottom) of free
| draining (John Innes + gravel) and let it root through the pot into the
| ground.

That's one technique, and is fine for warm, wet winters. Mine is to
layer them regularly, and to regard them as short-lived. That works
better in cold winters.

I find that they die only when getting established, and when they get
old, and layering resolves the latter problem.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Charlie Pridham[_2_] 31-10-2007 05:05 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
In article ,
says...
On 31/10/07 16:30, in article
, "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?


Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore
as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is
why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters.
I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here
but their winters go much lower than here but are dry.


Our guess is the wet has an awful lot to do with it here. Some things just
don't like having wet *and* cold feet for months on end. But in this case,
because we can grow other rosemaries, I'd imagine the cold and the frosts we
do get, must put the kybosh on some things.

I don't think cold summers (relative I know!) help as the plants do not
ripen wood properly letting rots in.
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Sacha 31-10-2007 05:13 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 17:05, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 31/10/07 16:30, in article
, "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote after "judith.lea"
wrote:

On Oct 31, 12:35 pm, Sacha wrote:
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg


Sacha, it is huge, would it survive here do you think?


Not a prayer, Judith. It doesn't survive with us and we rarely get frost
below -5C. All you could try is having it in a pot on top of a high wall
and then bring it in for the winter. Might become a bit of a heavy chore
as
it grows, though!
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!

Do you think it's just the cold or a combination of cold and wet which is
why most Mediterranean plants can't cope with our winters.
I've seen plants around where a friend lives in SW France that won't do here
but their winters go much lower than here but are dry.


Our guess is the wet has an awful lot to do with it here. Some things just
don't like having wet *and* cold feet for months on end. But in this case,
because we can grow other rosemaries, I'd imagine the cold and the frosts we
do get, must put the kybosh on some things.

I don't think cold summers (relative I know!) help as the plants do not
ripen wood properly letting rots in.


Yes, I think you're correct - in fact I'm sure you are. I know that
recently I wanted to send something to someone in Gateshead as a 'thank you'
present. Ray told me not to do it until next spring because of just what
you say.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



[email protected] 31-10-2007 07:05 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31 Oct, 13:44, Sacha wrote:
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!


According to this link you've not only given them cuttings 9 months
ago but also had asked them, Filippi, about the variety. You've also
asked Burncoose nursery. Had you forgotten?

http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...=154277&page=3


'Mike' 31-10-2007 07:23 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 


wrote in message
ps.com...
On 31 Oct, 13:44, Sacha wrote:
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but
very
much wants some cuttings!


According to this link you've not only given them cuttings 9 months
ago but also had asked them, Filippi, about the variety. You've also
asked Burncoose nursery. Had you forgotten?

http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...=154277&page=3


But it didn't have a picture of the Jeep ;-)

Can I post a picture of my BMW? or my Son on Law's Rolls Royce?

Mike
ps
How do you address a Sheikh in a letter of thanks? I was guest at the
weekend in my position of President of an RAF Association and I wish/need to
write a 'Thank You' letter. Dear Sir doesn't ring correct.

Any ideas? Google doesn't help :-((

Mike



--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Sacha 31-10-2007 10:50 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 19:05, in article
, "
wrote:

On 31 Oct, 13:44, Sacha wrote:
I've heard back from Olivier Filippi who doesn't know which it is but very
much wants some cuttings!


According to this link you've not only given them cuttings 9 months
ago but also had asked them, Filippi, about the variety. You've also
asked Burncoose nursery. Had you forgotten?

http://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/showth...=154277&page=3


Oh petty little woman! Yes, Olivier would like some more cuttings. No he
does not know what the variety it is and no, he had not seen a photo before,
so he didn't know what the cuttings were that he had or what the plant can
do. Yes, I have asked nurseries and gardeners *since* you made such a fuss
about this last time. No, I will not discuss this with you again. You've
stifled one discussion I was trying to have with people here and you're not
going to do it again.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Nick Maclaren 31-10-2007 10:53 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

In article ,
"'Mike'" writes:
|
| But it didn't have a picture of the Jeep ;-)
|
| Can I post a picture of my BMW? or my Son on Law's Rolls Royce?

Or my Deputy Vice-Mistress's Sherman?

Provided that it is in front of an interesting plant, which is to
the foreground, I can't see why not.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

'Mike' 31-10-2007 11:03 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"'Mike'" writes:
|
| But it didn't have a picture of the Jeep ;-)
|
| Can I post a picture of my BMW? or my Son on Law's Rolls Royce?

Or my Deputy Vice-Mistress's Sherman?

Provided that it is in front of an interesting plant, which is to
the foreground, I can't see why not.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Gee thanks Nick :-))

Perhaps I should have taken a photo of Eastbourne Mayor's Car on Saturday.
Guest of Honour at our Gala Dinner. Would have had to be in front of a bit
of Seaweed :-)

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




Sacha 31-10-2007 11:05 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 31/10/07 22:53, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
"'Mike'" writes:
|
| But it didn't have a picture of the Jeep ;-)
|
| Can I post a picture of my BMW? or my Son on Law's Rolls Royce?

Or my Deputy Vice-Mistress's Sherman?

Provided that it is in front of an interesting plant, which is to
the foreground, I can't see why not.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


The idea, of course, was to give a sense of scale. Only the resident moron
would make an issue of it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Bob Hobden 01-11-2007 12:00 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"'Mike'" wrote
I was guest at the
weekend in my position of President of an RAF Association and I wish/need
to write a 'Thank You' letter. Dear Sir doesn't ring correct.

Any ideas? Google doesn't help :-((


Can't see your name on here Mike....thought you had to have served with the
RAF....when were you elected?
http://www.rafa.org.uk/history-centralcouncil.asp


--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK



Dave Poole 01-11-2007 02:45 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
That's a nice pic. There used to be a similar plant growing down the
wall in front of a house in the Warberries here in Torquay. What a
stunning form for a steep bank or to cascade down over a wall.
Goodness knows what it is - it's certainly not one of the prostrate
forms in general cultivation. I wish I had a high retaining wall.


Dave Poole 01-11-2007 02:56 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
Puke, why have you deliberately tried to twist this thread? You
really are an utterly tiresome little sniper. If you've got nothing
to add apart from making feeble attempts at points scoring, just keep
out. Anyone with less than an ounce of common sense will see that
Sacha's follow-up is entirely consistent with previous postings.


'Mike' 01-11-2007 07:30 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 


"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"'Mike'" wrote
I was guest at the
weekend in my position of President of an RAF Association and I wish/need
to write a 'Thank You' letter. Dear Sir doesn't ring correct.

Any ideas? Google doesn't help :-((


Can't see your name on here Mike....thought you had to have served with
the RAF....when were you elected?
http://www.rafa.org.uk/history-centralcouncil.asp


--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK


No Bob I served in the Senior Service for five minutes.

By the way, I am nothing to do with the web site you looked at. When the
site is back up in November sometime, (it was hit by gremlins) you will need
to look at www.nsrafa.org.uk An RAF Association which is growing like mad
:-) and which incidentally RAFA have asked time and time again to be linked
with. Our Association is growing, RAFA is shrinking. You might be interested
to know that our Association has been invited to parade at the Cenotaph this
year and we attended the Battle of Britain Memorial Service at Westminster
Abbey again.

Only the troublemakers on this site stir up the RAFA Website :-)) They have
been told, time and time again but choose to ignore it :-)

Best wishes

Mike ex RN


--
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Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
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'Mike' 01-11-2007 07:36 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 



You might be interested to know that our Association has been invited to
parade at the Cenotaph this year and we attended the Battle of Britain
Memorial Service at Westminster Abbey again.


http://www.iowtours.com/gallerydetail.asp?photoID=13


One of 'The Few' still remaining.

Kind regards

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand



Sacha 01-11-2007 09:00 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1/11/07 02:45, in article
, "Dave Poole"
wrote:

That's a nice pic. There used to be a similar plant growing down the
wall in front of a house in the Warberries here in Torquay. What a
stunning form for a steep bank or to cascade down over a wall.
Goodness knows what it is - it's certainly not one of the prostrate
forms in general cultivation. I wish I had a high retaining wall.

That's the interesting thing about it. It seems to be known only in local
seaside areas though I'd love people from Suffolk or Sussex to tell us if
they've ever seen it there. I showed it to a very knowledgeable customer of
ours and she was quite nonchalant about it just saying "oh yes, that's the
Salcombe rosemary - it's been around for years" but even she didn't know its
proper name.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



'Mike' 01-11-2007 09:12 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 


"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 00:00:01 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote:


"'Mike'" wrote
I was guest at the
weekend in my position of President of an RAF Association and I
wish/need
to write a 'Thank You' letter. Dear Sir doesn't ring correct.

Any ideas? Google doesn't help :-((


Can't see your name on here Mike....thought you had to have served with
the
RAF....when were you elected?
http://www.rafa.org.uk/history-centralcouncil.asp


and
http://rafa.org.uk/nationevents.asp
AIR MARSHAL PHILIP STURLEY CB, MBE, BSc, PRESIDENT OF RAF Association
(RAFA) is
president of President of *the* RAF Association.

Maybe he refers to an alternative RAFA.
--

Martin


Martin, see my other posting and don't get drawn into the pockets of the
trouble makers.

Kindest regards

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand




'Mike' 01-11-2007 09:13 AM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 00:00:01 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote:


"'Mike'" wrote
I was guest at the
weekend in my position of President of an RAF Association and I
wish/need
to write a 'Thank You' letter. Dear Sir doesn't ring correct.

Any ideas? Google doesn't help :-((


Can't see your name on here Mike....thought you had to have served with
the
RAF....when were you elected?
http://www.rafa.org.uk/history-centralcouncil.asp


We've had this before. He isn't.
--

Martin


Yes we have had this before Martin. It is the trouble stirrers again. Ignore
them. Let them make fools of themselves again and again and again :-)

Kindest regards

Mike


--
www.rneba.org.uk for the latest pictures of the very first reunion and
Inaugural General Meeting. Nothing less than a fantastic success.
The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association.
'THE' Association if you served in the Electrical Branch of the Royal Navy
www.rneba.org.uk to find your ex-Greenie mess mates
www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly
"Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will have a Stand





[email protected] 01-11-2007 12:22 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1 Nov, 02:56, Dave Poole wrote:
Puke, why have you deliberately tried to twist this thread? You
really are an utterly tiresome little sniper. If you've got nothing
to add apart from making feeble attempts at points scoring, just keep
out. Anyone with less than an ounce of common sense will see that
Sacha's follow-up is entirely consistent with previous postings.


Why have you deliberately called me by this name? I have posted this
link not to 'twist' but to show Sacha's inconsistencies, indeed. She
had said in February that Olivier couldn't identified the rosemary.
She also said she had approached many local nurseries, including
Burncoose, and now said that Olivier can't identify it again, two days
ago, including other local nurseries. Are the owners of the property
still not in after 9 months?!

Whatever answer you come up with, I'll ask you nicely not to abuse me,
nor threaten me. I do not write to you in this way.


graham 01-11-2007 02:05 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--

I am VERY jealous!!!! I would love to be able to grow this variety but it
wouldn't survive our winters (nor much of Spring & Fall). Here's a pic of
the ~20year old specimen that I have to keep in the kitchen bay window for
most of the year{:-(
http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
BTW it's still dark at 8am. We don't put back the clocks until this coming
w/e. It's a fuel saving measure forced on all of N.America by "The Shrub".

Graham



Sacha 01-11-2007 04:18 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1/11/07 12:22, in article
, "
wrote:

On 1 Nov, 02:56, Dave Poole wrote:
Puke, why have you deliberately tried to twist this thread? You
really are an utterly tiresome little sniper. If you've got nothing
to add apart from making feeble attempts at points scoring, just keep
out. Anyone with less than an ounce of common sense will see that
Sacha's follow-up is entirely consistent with previous postings.


Why have you deliberately called me by this name? I have posted this
link not to 'twist' but to show Sacha's inconsistencies, indeed. She
had said in February that Olivier couldn't identified the rosemary.
She also said she had approached many local nurseries, including
Burncoose, and now said that Olivier can't identify it again, two days
ago, including other local nurseries. Are the owners of the property
still not in after 9 months?!

Whatever answer you come up with, I'll ask you nicely not to abuse me,
nor threaten me. I do not write to you in this way.


Does the word 'photograph' mean anything to you?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-11-2007 04:20 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1/11/07 14:05, in article 03lWi.165049$Da.15360@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--

I am VERY jealous!!!! I would love to be able to grow this variety but it
wouldn't survive our winters (nor much of Spring & Fall). Here's a pic of
the ~20year old specimen that I have to keep in the kitchen bay window for
most of the year{:-(
http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
BTW it's still dark at 8am. We don't put back the clocks until this coming
w/e. It's a fuel saving measure forced on all of N.America by "The Shrub".

Graham


Ours went back last w/e and I've still got jetlag! ;-) Nice, healthy
plants, Graham. Is the one on the right a citrus of some sort?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Sacha 01-11-2007 04:34 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1/11/07 16:25, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:20:19 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 1/11/07 14:05, in article 03lWi.165049$Da.15360@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--
I am VERY jealous!!!! I would love to be able to grow this variety but it
wouldn't survive our winters (nor much of Spring & Fall). Here's a pic of
the ~20year old specimen that I have to keep in the kitchen bay window for
most of the year{:-(
http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
BTW it's still dark at 8am. We don't put back the clocks until this coming
w/e. It's a fuel saving measure forced on all of N.America by "The Shrub".

Graham


Ours went back last w/e and I've still got jetlag! ;-)


Except at Gatwick Airport where somebody screwed up the time.


That was extraordinary. You'd think someone might have noticed all the
clocks were wrong!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Ageless 01-11-2007 04:35 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
On 1 Nov, 02:56, Dave Poole wrote:
Puke, why have you deliberately tried to twist this thread? You
really are an utterly tiresome little sniper. If you've got nothing
to add apart from making feeble attempts at points scoring, just keep
out. Anyone with less than an ounce of common sense will see that
Sacha's follow-up is entirely consistent with previous postings.


Why have you deliberately called me by this name? I have posted this
link not to 'twist' but to show Sacha's inconsistencies, indeed. She
had said in February that Olivier couldn't identified the rosemary.
She also said she had approached many local nurseries, including
Burncoose, and now said that Olivier can't identify it again, two days
ago, including other local nurseries. Are the owners of the property
still not in after 9 months?!

Whatever answer you come up with, I'll ask you nicely not to abuse me,
nor threaten me. I do not write to you in this way.



threats ???

abuse ????

overactive imagination !!!!



graham 01-11-2007 05:34 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 1/11/07 14:05, in article 03lWi.165049$Da.15360@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--

I am VERY jealous!!!! I would love to be able to grow this variety but
it
wouldn't survive our winters (nor much of Spring & Fall). Here's a pic
of
the ~20year old specimen that I have to keep in the kitchen bay window
for
most of the year{:-(
http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
BTW it's still dark at 8am. We don't put back the clocks until this
coming
w/e. It's a fuel saving measure forced on all of N.America by "The
Shrub".

Graham


Ours went back last w/e and I've still got jetlag! ;-) Nice, healthy
plants, Graham. Is the one on the right a citrus of some sort?

Yes, a grapefruit grown from a sprouting seed that one often finds in the
fruit. I planted two but the other plant started to exude a resinous
substance from parts of the stem. I asked this forum about it but it seems
no-one knew what could cause it so, to be on the safe side, I chucked it.
The one on the left is a bay laurel. I understand there is some dispute as
to whether this is the European or the Californian variety. Either way,
the leaves have a very pleasant smell.
Graham



Nick Maclaren 01-11-2007 05:49 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

In article e6oWi.165223$Da.160727@pd7urf1no,
"graham" writes:
|
| Yes, a grapefruit grown from a sprouting seed that one often finds in the
| fruit. I planted two but the other plant started to exude a resinous
| substance from parts of the stem. I asked this forum about it but it seems
| no-one knew what could cause it so, to be on the safe side, I chucked it.
| The one on the left is a bay laurel. I understand there is some dispute as
| to whether this is the European or the Californian variety. Either way,
| the leaves have a very pleasant smell.

Look at the leaf margins. It's not California Bay Laurel.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


Sacha 01-11-2007 06:05 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 
On 1/11/07 17:34, in article e6oWi.165223$Da.160727@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 1/11/07 14:05, in article 03lWi.165049$Da.15360@pd7urf1no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
This is the (somewhat contentious) rosemary I was trying to ID some time
ago. Having had some computer problems sorted, I've found the pic of
it.
I've checked with several gardeners and with a few nurseries and it's
only
ever known as the 'Salcombe rosemary' round here.
As you see, using my car as a scale, it's immensely long and was also
trailing across the tarmac of the drive and has to be cut back! It's
very
tender and seems to survive only in the mildest sea side gardens round
here.
I've emailed a pic to Olivier Filippi both to see if he can ID it and if
he'd like some cuttings!
http://i1.tinypic.com/6c6mufk.jpg

--
I am VERY jealous!!!! I would love to be able to grow this variety but
it
wouldn't survive our winters (nor much of Spring & Fall). Here's a pic
of
the ~20year old specimen that I have to keep in the kitchen bay window
for
most of the year{:-(
http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
BTW it's still dark at 8am. We don't put back the clocks until this
coming
w/e. It's a fuel saving measure forced on all of N.America by "The
Shrub".

Graham


Ours went back last w/e and I've still got jetlag! ;-) Nice, healthy
plants, Graham. Is the one on the right a citrus of some sort?

Yes, a grapefruit grown from a sprouting seed that one often finds in the
fruit. I planted two but the other plant started to exude a resinous
substance from parts of the stem. I asked this forum about it but it seems
no-one knew what could cause it so, to be on the safe side, I chucked it.
The one on the left is a bay laurel. I understand there is some dispute as
to whether this is the European or the Californian variety. Either way,
the leaves have a very pleasant smell.
Graham



To me, it just looks like bay but is there a danger in confusing the two?!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'



Nick Maclaren 01-11-2007 06:49 PM

'Salcombe rosemary'
 

In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 1/11/07 17:34, in article e6oWi.165223$Da.160727@pd7urf1no, "graham"
| wrote:
|
| http://i12.tinypic.com/5ylxwnn.jpg
|
| .... I understand there is some dispute as
| to whether this is the European or the Californian variety. Either way,
| the leaves have a very pleasant smell.
|
| To me, it just looks like bay but is there a danger in confusing the two?!

Not really. If the information off the Web is reliable, the Californian
plant never has crinkly leaf edges. True bay always always does, and
that one does.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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