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The plastic bag free town
Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags.
The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
The plastic bag free town
On 12/11/07 17:13, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. Lovely little town and well done them for this initiative. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
The plastic bag free town
"Martin" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. The site says that the local Co-op gave every household in the town a re-usable cotton bag, further re-usable bags are available at a small charge, even the take-always use biodegradable containers made of corn starch .....this must be the way to go. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK |
The plastic bag free town
On 12/11/07 17:17, in article ,
"Martin" wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:13:21 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. You're still paying for your supermarket plastic bag, you just don't know how much! People value what they pay for, so they'll use those bags elsewhere, too. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
The plastic bag free town
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK Featured on TV some 6 months or more back. Made us buy the reusable bags and used them since :-)) Mike -- www.rnshipmates.co.uk for ALL Royal Navy Association matters www.rneba.org.uk. The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association. 'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates. www.iowtours.com for all ex-Service Reunions. More being added regularly "Navy Days" Portsmouth 25th - 27th July 2008. RN Shipmates will be there. |
The plastic bag free town
On Nov 12, 9:13 am, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent.http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK does it mention how many of them own stock or shares in the timber companies and paper-bag suppliers? (ducking and running) |
The plastic bag free town
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Martin" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. The site says that the local Co-op gave every household in the town a re-usable cotton bag, further re-usable bags are available at a small charge, even the take-always use biodegradable containers made of corn starch .....this must be the way to go. Agreed. How parsimonious, to want a free bag! Mary |
The plastic bag free town
On Nov 12, 5:30 pm, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Martin" wrote after "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. The site says that the local Co-op gave every household in the town a re-usable cotton bag, further re-usable bags are available at a small charge, even the take-always use biodegradable containers made of corn starch .....this must be the way to go. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK It has been illegal to give free plastic bags in Irish shops for a few years now. You can get them but have to ask and have to pay. Ireland used to have an appalling litter problem; overnight we went from that to merely having a bad litter problem. It needed a simple act of government. Since then, people have gotten used to bringing their own bags when going shopping. One barrier at the time was the amount of economic activity that went onto making and distributing the disposable bags; it is a big business. It worked almost immediately and the supermarkets surived quite happily despite all the bleating they did before hand, moaning about how civilisation would end etc. Des |
The plastic bag free town
On 12/11/07 18:50, in article
, "Don H3" wrote: On Nov 12, 9:13 am, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent.http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK does it mention how many of them own stock or shares in the timber companies and paper-bag suppliers? (ducking and running) I don't see what the problem would be if that were the case. Without investment, companies can't continue to exist. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
The plastic bag free town
"Sacha" wrote in message . uk... On 12/11/07 18:50, in article , "Don H3" wrote: On Nov 12, 9:13 am, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent.http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK does it mention how many of them own stock or shares in the timber companies and paper-bag suppliers? (ducking and running) I don't see what the problem would be if that were the case. Without investment, companies can't continue to exist. ..... burning up the resources .........we borrow .. from our children.' Nah, no problem there. ned |
The plastic bag free town
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says... On 12/11/07 17:17, in article , "Martin" wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:13:21 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. You're still paying for your supermarket plastic bag, you just don't know how much! People value what they pay for, so they'll use those bags elsewhere, too. So does anyone have first hand experiance of plastic free bags which can be used for wet plants? (we would gladly change but have never found any) -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
The plastic bag free town
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:00:58 +0000, Sacha wrote
(in article ) : On 12/11/07 17:51, in article , "Martin" wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:39:01 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 12/11/07 17:17, in article , "Martin" wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:13:21 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. You're still paying for your supermarket plastic bag, you just don't know how much! I'm not. I bought recyclable bags years ago. I don't recall the supermarket that made them available for a token amount getting any publicity. Probably because they go on handing out plastic bags for which we all still pay - even you. There *has* been publicity recently over Tesco's decision to start charging 5p for plastic bags to 'force' people to re-use them. Huh! Then why is it, I ask myself, when I (rarely) shop at Tesco's, and stand there waving my own canvas bags and saying "I've got my own bags", do they just automatically spread out the plastic ones in my way. I have been known to have to say this three times before they take any notice. And why, then, when I say, patiently, "you will re-use those, won't you?" when the bags are then shoved under the counter, do they look at me blankly as though I come from Mars? It's all right, you don't need to answer that - just my morning rant for the day :-) -- Sally in Shropshire, UK Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church with conservation churchyard: http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk |
The plastic bag free town
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. -- Regards Bob Hobden 17mls W. of London.UK There is an awful load of rubbish being spread about - about rubbish. First the website spends a long time wailing about all the plastic in the world. Straw man. It's only the plastic bags that are this issue. I wonder if there are any facts available on the effectiveness of projects like this. My suspicion is that they are ways some people try to assuage their guilt about their useage of resources. Take Christmas for example. How many of the people involved in that project will buy more plastic in one set of Christmas presents than a whole years useage of plastic bags? How many of them take their kids to school in a car when 15 minutes less sleep would give them time to walk them to school? How many have 4 by 4 vehicles, never used for what they are designed, but to provide a fearful owner the false sense of protection from collision? How many have a place in Europe, and are frequent fliers? When all this is answered, it will still be a useless effort to leave well meaning people to be careful about their carbon footprint and prudence when using materials. Only governments have the power to force selfish people to behave sensibly. |
The plastic bag free town
On 13/11/07 08:47, in article
, "Charlie Pridham" wrote: In article , says... On 12/11/07 17:17, in article , "Martin" wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:13:21 -0000, "Bob Hobden" wrote: Interesting site about Modbury, the town that has banned plastic bags. The video of a speech by Ray Anderson on the "Why and How to" page is excellent. http://www.plasticbagfree.com/index.php and if anyone thinks this is OT for this ng check out the site. I'd be more impressed if they were giving away reuseable bags. You're still paying for your supermarket plastic bag, you just don't know how much! People value what they pay for, so they'll use those bags elsewhere, too. So does anyone have first hand experiance of plastic free bags which can be used for wet plants? (we would gladly change but have never found any) We use some plastic bags but our main 'carriers' are shallow cardboard trays. They arrive flat and we make them up as needed. On busy days we could almost have one person doing that job. I think they cost us about 15p each but at least we feel they're fairly eco-friendly. One woman asked us if we would give her 'some', as her cat likes to play with them! We said we would gladly do so but would have to charge her for them. She seemed genuinely shocked to learn that this was because we have to pay for them. ;-) -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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