In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and to
take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 29/11/07 14:46, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and
to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Duly noted and passed on! Thanks everyone.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

could it be the Quince-Israel in this pickie looks sort of similar without the defined ridges.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nce-israel.jpg

On 29/11/07 21:05, in article , "Granity"
wrote:


Sacha;762691 Wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article ,
"Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door,
though and
to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking
as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Duly noted and passed on! Thanks everyone.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

could it be the Quince-Israel in this pickie looks sort of similar
without the defined ridges.

http://tinyurl.com/2fwzzg


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I'm afraid not. It looks much too big and it's not ridged in any uniform
way.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In message , Sacha
writes
On 29/11/07 14:46, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and
to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Duly noted and passed on! Thanks everyone.

Also whether there are the remains of the calyx at the distal end (the
end opposite the stalk) of the fruit.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

On 29/11/07 16:05, in article lid, "Stewart
Robert Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 29/11/07 14:46, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and
to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Duly noted and passed on! Thanks everyone.

Also whether there are the remains of the calyx at the distal end (the
end opposite the stalk) of the fruit.

Will do. Thanks, Stewart. I must say there weren't on the two she gave us.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In message , Sacha
writes
On 29/11/07 16:05, in article lid, "Stewart
Robert Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
On 29/11/07 14:46, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
| On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
| Tweedy" wrote:
|
| What about posting to the RHS?
|
| Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door,
|though and
to
| take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as
|looking as if
| it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Critical aspects include whether the bush has thorns, and exactly
how the fruit are attached to it (e.g. whether via stems and on
what sort of age of wood).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Duly noted and passed on! Thanks everyone.

Also whether there are the remains of the calyx at the distal end (the
end opposite the stalk) of the fruit.

Will do. Thanks, Stewart. I must say there weren't on the two she gave us.

That supports as an identification as Chaenomeles, as opposed to Cydonia
or Docynia. (Pseudocydonia is treated as a synonym of Chaenomeles in
Flora of China.)

Of the 16 genera present in China Raphiolepis also has caducuous sepals,
and the presence or absence of the calyx in fruit is variable in Sorbus,
Pyrus and Malus.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not
pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and
to
take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Couldn't...ahem...tell us what street it's on, could you...?

someone

On 29/11/07 23:46, in article ,
"someone" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not
pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though and
to
take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as if
it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Couldn't...ahem...tell us what street it's on, could you...?

someone


Sorry, no! Even if I could, I don't think I should, if you see what I mean.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 23:46, in article ,
"someone" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not
pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though
and
to
take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as
if
it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Couldn't...ahem...tell us what street it's on, could you...?

someone


Sorry, no! Even if I could, I don't think I should, if you see what I
mean.


Why not? It takes years to grow a tree from seed, so it's not interrupting
anybody's business.

I have some small (half-metre) Dovyalis caffra trees looking for good homes
in a warm environment (maybe IoW), and also Eugenia uniflora that produces
delicious fruits. I have enough trees so that I can test test/sacrifice
some of them this winter. If some of them die, I'll know to keep the rest
indoors.

On 30/11/07 23:05, in article ,
"someone" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 23:46, in article ,
"someone" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
. uk...
On 29/11/07 10:48, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

Thanks to you Nick, Stewart and Janet but I'm afraid it's still not
pinned
down. None of the fruits you've discussed are grooved enough.

What about posting to the RHS?

Could do - good idea. I'll also ask her to knock on the door, though
and
to
take a photo of the whole thing. She describes the bush as looking as
if
it's covered in lots of little pumpkins!

Couldn't...ahem...tell us what street it's on, could you...?

someone


Sorry, no! Even if I could, I don't think I should, if you see what I
mean.


Why not? It takes years to grow a tree from seed, so it's not interrupting
anybody's business.

I have some small (half-metre) Dovyalis caffra trees looking for good homes
in a warm environment (maybe IoW), and also Eugenia uniflora that produces
delicious fruits. I have enough trees so that I can test test/sacrifice
some of them this winter. If some of them die, I'll know to keep the rest
indoors.



Er.......I don't know who you are. This seems to be an unusual shrub. If I
give you the name of the street, effectively I give the world the location
of an individual I don't even know. This plant is in a private garden.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article , Sacha
writes

Er.......I don't know who you are. This seems to be an unusual shrub. If I
give you the name of the street, effectively I give the world the location
of an individual I don't even know. This plant is in a private garden.



On the other hand Sacha, if you wrote a nice letter to the occupants on
the lines of
"The Gardening UK Internet group is enthralled by the tree in your front
garden and would love to identify it. Can you tell us more about it?.
Adding your name and address

I am sure that they wouldn't mind you asking and might give you an
answer!
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk