I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

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from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

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The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...


The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.
I think the farmer's mistake is because he will be used to dealing
with other sorts of phosphates as fertilisers.

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from Fuschia contains these words:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.

It will be the same: if it doesn't form a (triangular) bond with the
actual concrete, as soon as it is washed into the soil, it will bond
with that and become harmless.

I think the farmer's mistake is because he will be used to dealing
with other sorts of phosphates as fertilisers.

I'm sure. But you'd think he might have heard others refer to it
correctly, and wondered, innit.

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am
wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to
completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be
carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a
farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.

It will be the same: if it doesn't form a (triangular) bond with the
actual concrete, as soon as it is washed into the soil, it will bond
with that and become harmless.

What about the grass with which it comes into contact before it reaches
the soil. Would you kindly confine your remarks to Glyphosate which has
dried on concrete, has subsequently been wetted by rain, then trodden on
by shoes which in turn have then trodden on grass?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.

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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am
wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to
completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be
carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a
farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.

It will be the same: if it doesn't form a (triangular) bond with the
actual concrete, as soon as it is washed into the soil, it will bond
with that and become harmless.

What about the grass with which it comes into contact before it reaches
the soil. Would you kindly confine your remarks to Glyphosate which has
dried on concrete, has subsequently been wetted by rain, then trodden on
by shoes which in turn have then trodden on grass?

plonk Emrys Davies.


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Chris
Ignoti nulla cupido

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from Fuschia contains these words:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2
wrote:
The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am
wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to
completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be
carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a
farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.

It will be the same: if it doesn't form a (triangular) bond with the
actual concrete, as soon as it is washed into the soil, it will bond
with that and become harmless.

What about the grass with which it comes into contact before it reaches
the soil. Would you kindly confine your remarks to Glyphosate which has
dried on concrete, has subsequently been wetted by rain, then trodden on
by shoes which in turn have then trodden on grass?

Regards,
Emrys Davies.



Whether or not it is technically possible for the weedkiller to
reactivate it does not do so, and when used as you discribe it will not
damage your grass
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
says...

Would you kindly confine your remarks to Glyphosate which has
dried on concrete, has subsequently been wetted by rain, then trodden on
by shoes which in turn have then trodden on grass?

Yeah - it'll destroy every green thing in sight!

When the Romans destroyed Carthage, they poured glyphosate on the ruins.
They then walked on the ruins with their caligae and tramped all round
North Africa and Sahara. Look what it's like there now!

Jim

On Jul 8, 5:17*pm, Fuschia wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:04:56 +0100, Rusty Hinge 2

wrote:
The message
from "Emrys Davies" contains these words:

I know how glyphosate works on a plant and the soil but I am wondering
if it is safe in the following circumstances:

If it is applied to weeds on concrete paths, allowed to completely dry
and then it rains is there a danger that the residue can then be carried
on shoes onto grassed areas and thus cause damage?

No. Once in the soil it becomes locked-in and harmless.

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

The OP did say it was on concrete paths rather than on soil, but I
think the answer will be the same because having dried out and then
been further diluted by rain it will be very much weakened.
I think the farmer's mistake is because he will be used to dealing
with other sorts of phosphates as fertilisers.

It's probably a bit of a brain-collision between related terms - a bit
like that which leads some other farmers to refer to "hectacres" of
land.

Cat(h)

"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

Probably just a mistake.

An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. :-)

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Bob Hobden

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

Probably just a mistake.

An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. :-)

Freudian slip?

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"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote:

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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words:
"Rusty Hinge 2" wrote

Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

Probably just a mistake.

An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. :-)

Freudian slip?

Perhaps he had a Jezebel for the Gazebo. Lovely story!
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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On Jul 9, 6:43*pm, Rusty Hinge 2
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words:

"Rusty Hinge 2" *wrote
Incidentally, on the Farming Programme recently (IIRC) I heard a farmer
refer to it repeatedly as 'glyphosphate'...

Probably just a mistake.
An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. *:-)

Freudian slip?

A Freudian malaprop ;-)

Cat(h) (a bit like the "we're doomed" tea lady in a company I used to
work for ages ago, who used to always say think the place was on the
edge of bankruptcy, and that soon, the "liquidiser" would be sent in)

On 9 Jul, 17:32, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. *:-)

I was describing, in French, a way of fencing the garden of a friend
in Bordeaux and said that I would in my opinion use some 'brandade'.
The looks I got were serious and questioning, until they all laughed
loudly. I had meant of course 'brande' which is a type of fence made
of differerent wood, and not 'brandade' which is a fish and potato
dish )

On Jul 11, 6:40 pm, wrote:
On 9 Jul, 17:32, "Bob Hobden" wrote:

An old chap was saying to a friend of ours he had finally bought himself
what he'd wanted for years, a Jezebel. Keeping a straight face our friend
asked a few questions and he had actually bought a Gazebo. :-)

I was describing, in French, a way of fencing the garden of a friend
in Bordeaux and said that I would in my opinion use some 'brandade'.
The looks I got were serious and questioning, until they all laughed
loudly. I had meant of course 'brande' which is a type of fence made
of differerent wood, and not 'brandade' which is a fish and potato
dish )

You had me there for a minute as I bought Brandade for our lunch
tommorow, I love it.

Judith