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stephen.hill 09-07-2008 11:20 AM

Horse Manure - Problems
 


I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)

Robert \(Plymouth\)[_216_] 09-07-2008 12:53 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 


"stephen.hill" wrote in message
...


I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


I wonder if they are referring to the problem highlighted on GQT last
Sunday, see attached link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/


--
Rowdens Reservoir Allotments Association
www.rraa.moonfruit.com
Feed the soil, save the planet


mogga 09-07-2008 01:24 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill
wrote:



I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think
http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en
--
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http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

stephen.hill 09-07-2008 02:34 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:53:16 +0100, "Robert \(Plymouth\)"
wrote:



"stephen.hill" wrote in message
.. .


I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


I wonder if they are referring to the problem highlighted on GQT last
Sunday, see attached link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/gqt/



Excellent - that is almost certainly what prompted the comment - many
thanks.

stephen.hill 09-07-2008 02:37 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:24:09 +0100, mogga
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill
wrote:



I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think
http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en



May thanks - I suspect that it was more likely the GQT item which
Robert has linked.

I must say it is interesting to see the "dangers" we expose ourselves
to!!!


Skinty 10-07-2008 12:53 AM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
Hi Guys

I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener
Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime
Regards
Skinty

"stephen.hill" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:24:09 +0100, mogga
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:20:00 +0100, stephen.hill
wrote:



I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


There was some bloke who died from inhaling spores from leaves I think
http://news.google.co.uk/news?source...21925474&hl=en



May thanks - I suspect that it was more likely the GQT item which
Robert has linked.

I must say it is interesting to see the "dangers" we expose ourselves
to!!!




Charlie Pridham[_2_] 10-07-2008 08:38 AM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
In article ,
says...
Hi Guys

I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener
Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime
Regards
Skinty


I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat?
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Broadback 10-07-2008 09:07 AM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
Charlie Pridham wrote:
In article ,
says...
Hi Guys

I Never use Horse Shit or Cow Dung As A Semi Pro Landscape Gardener
Use Mushroom or Natural Grass etc Mixed with Soil & May Be Some Lime
Regards
Skinty


I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat?

The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will
soon be a boring grey world!

Rusty Hinge 2 10-07-2008 05:28 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

I thought mushroom compost was horse manure and peat?


Often 'tis, sometimes with a little added whiting. Also, spruce needles
and whiting are used in some areas.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

[email protected] 11-07-2008 06:28 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On 10 Jul, 09:07, Broadback wrote:
The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will
soon be a boring grey world!


C'mon! This is herbicide, aminopyralid we're talking about. It's an
hormone type herbicide for weeds on pastures. Why?! Can't the horses
find the right stuff to eat? I'm no expert on horses, nor pastures,
but there's something really odd with using pesticide on pastures.

A.Lee 11-07-2008 06:36 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
stephen.hill wrote:

I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last
house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and
was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds
amongst the horse dung.
Alan.
--
To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.

Dave Hill 11-07-2008 08:44 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On 11 Jul, 18:36, (A.Lee) wrote:
stephen.hill wrote:
I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.


He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.


I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?


Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! *(He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last
house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and
was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds
amongst the horse dung.
Alan.
--
To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'.




I suspect it is as a result of reading something like this.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...edicalresearch
David Hill

Cerumen[_3_] 11-07-2008 09:34 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 

"A.Lee" wrote in message
...
stephen.hill wrote:

I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.

He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.

I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?

Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! (He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last
house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and
was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds
amongst the horse dung.

Correct composting at a high temperature should kill all the weed seeds.
I have a feeling the spores in horse manure might be an urban scare legend
or refer to a mould spore such as Aspergillus found on rotting plant
material.

--
Chris
Ignoti nulla cupido



Dave Hill 12-07-2008 12:54 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On 11 Jul, 21:34, "Cerumen" wrote:
"A.Lee" wrote in message

...



stephen.hill wrote:


I was talking to someone yesterday and he said that his allotment
society had now banned people from taking horse manure in to the
allotment area.


He said it was due to some dangerous "spores" being found in some
locally (Altrincham Cheshire) - but he had no details.


I've searched - but cannot find any reports of problems?


Anyone hazard a guess at what he is on about !! *(He does get confused
so there may be nothing in it)


Not sure if there are spores, but I had a weed free garden at my last
house, I then had a trailer of horse manure delivered one winter, and
was inundated with weeds for the next 5 years, presumably from seeds
amongst the horse dung.


Correct composting at a high temperature should kill all the weed seeds.
I have a feeling the spores in horse manure might be an urban scare legend
or refer to a mould spore such as Aspergillus found on rotting plant
material.

--
Chris
Ignoti nulla cupido- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


It's nothing to do with weed seed, it's the various fungus that grow
in compost/straw/hay when it is damp but not wet enough to rot down.
hence things like Farmers Lung etc.
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

[email protected] 12-07-2008 01:32 PM

Horse Manure - Problems
 
On Jul 11, 6:28�pm, wrote:
On 10 Jul, 09:07, Broadback wrote:

The way lots of things are being banned or declared unhealthy it will
soon be a boring grey world!


C'mon! This is herbicide, aminopyralid we're talking about. It's an
hormone type herbicide for weeds on pastures. Why?! Can't the horses
find the right stuff to eat? I'm no expert on horses, nor pastures,
but there's something really odd with using pesticide on pastures.


I know what you are saying, but It might be more a case of fields
growing hay for winter use being treated with these hormones rather
than actual grazing pastures, I could be wrong though.


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