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OT: New web site - finally....
"Judith in France" wrote in message ... On Jul 24, 10:41 pm, "gavin" wrote: "Judith in France" wrote in ... On Jul 24, 10:20 pm, "gavin" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message . .. On 24/7/08 16:49, in article , "gavin" wrote: "Ed" ex@directory wrote in message snet... On 21/07/08 19:40, Sacha wrote: It's taken longer to build than Rome but it's out the www.hillhousenursery.com Your site needs some serious work to make it generally usable. I've marked this thread OT so now we can discuss this here! There are errors on the site and I certainly find the construction a wee bit baffling - I think the end result could have been done with far simpler code/CSS. However, to say it is unusable is overstating the case somewhat. Please give details. I'm not trying to catch you out, I'm seriously interested in the details of your argument. There's a chance I may learn something - I will concede that there are any number of people out there who are better web developers than I am. What really makes me mad is the kind of money that can be charged for building/maintaining a website - I know as I've seen this in practice. Great websites can be built from the ground up very cost effectively if you know where to go (which I do!). And it is actually pretty easy to learn basic HTML/CSS in order to more than adequately maintain a site(as I do). I would like to make it crystal clear that I put this site's address here for potential customers to comment upon. It is not and never has been intended as a training example for other designers and I think it extremely unfair and wrong for it to be suggested now that it should be used as such. While I accept this is where your interest lies, Gavin, you do NOT have our permission to use our site or its builders in this way and you are making incorrect assumptions, to which we object strongly, about what we are being charged. You have absolutely no information or knowledge about that. Having just re-read your post I am even more annoyed at what you have written! At no time will I "use" for your site for any purpose at all. What use could I possibly put it to? Please explain. "A training example for other designers"? Please also explain that sentence. I have also made no assumptions about what you are being charged for your site. Please show me where I have. I couldn't care what you have paid. I made a GENERAL statement about SOME web developers and the exorbitant charges that they make. I work in web development and I am qualified to talk on this subject. Again, I couldn't care less who built your site or what they charge you. You really should learn to read what is posted before you get on your high horse and sound off. Whoa! mixed messages Gavin, Sacha is one of the nicest posters here, it could be that , moi, in a position of neutral, I assure you, that she read something inti your post that was not intended? Isn't it awful that sometimes the written word comes over with undertones that we don't mean? I have known Sacha for a huge number of years, she is knowledgeable, her husband is more knowledge and more than that, he is an "expert" on all matters gardening and well respected. I suspect that there has been a little misunderstanding. When you know Sacally dedicated to gardening and very protective of what she sees, as sound knowledge. Pax???? Yes? Then maybe Sacha should learn not to read into words intentions that are not there. I have no doubt that Sacha is an expert gardener whereas I'm a novice therefore I would not assume to question her on her area of expertise. As I work in web development I thought Sacha might be interested in my "professional" comments on her site. I don't hold grudges - but I do speak my mind. Listen sweetheart, I know she will be very interested in your views on her website, but it did come over as critical rather than helpful? I am sure she would appreciate hearing fro you, personally, when you can talk, one to one? Email works, sometimes. Again, I am interested in your garden, will you tell us what you do and maybe a few pics? I am going to put a few of mine on group tonight, if I can get the hang of i. /Are you any good with teaching morons, me, how to use a computer effectively? Where was my criticism? As I said I was defending the site - against the overly harsh words from Ed. He was implying that the site was unusable. I replied that it wasn't - although there are errors on it. I asked him for details of where the site is unusable knowing that he couldn't give them. The I made a general comment about something that really annoys me - how much some "developers" (often very poor ones) charge for their services. It's scandalous. I would never cite individual cases - that would be unprofessional of me. As for my garden, oh dear! I have a lawn which isn't too bad - I keep meaning to try and get rid of some of the dandelions! I have one flower bed which has a lot of greenery in it - but not many flowers so far. I live in East Lancashire where we get plenty of rain but far less sunshine than some areas of the country - that coupled with the lower temperatures means we are behind, I think? I am trying tomatoes (outside) and (dwarf) runner beans this year - I really don't have much of a clue! I started my runner beans indoors - they thrived. But when I transplanted outdoors they went downhill rapidly. They are perking up a little bit I don't have great hopes - shame, I LOVE runner beans! They haven't produced many flowers :-( What do you want to know about computers? I'll gladly help if I can. |
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