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Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(

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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


Another problem is that Chinese honey is being exported under the names of
other countries. There are also some problems with adulteration,
especially as prices go up due to hive failures and fuel costs.

After running out of UK honey, make sure you buy Canadian{;-)
Did you know that the hives in the Peace River area are the most productive
in the world?
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On 13/9/08 15:46, in article ,
"Graham" wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


Another problem is that Chinese honey is being exported under the names of
other countries. There are also some problems with adulteration,
especially as prices go up due to hive failures and fuel costs.

After running out of UK honey, make sure you buy Canadian{;-)
Did you know that the hives in the Peace River area are the most productive
in the world?
Graham


Disease free?
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:56:39 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 13/9/08 15:46, in article ,
"Graham" wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


Another problem is that Chinese honey is being exported under the names of
other countries. There are also some problems with adulteration,
especially as prices go up due to hive failures and fuel costs.

After running out of UK honey, make sure you buy Canadian{;-)
Did you know that the hives in the Peace River area are the most productive
in the world?
Graham


Disease free?



I read something about it possibly being due to mobile phone masts. In
whcih case Cuba should be covered in bees as they've only just started
allowing them there.
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:56:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 13/9/08 15:46, in article ,
"Graham" wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


Another problem is that Chinese honey is being exported under the names of
other countries. There are also some problems with adulteration,
especially as prices go up due to hive failures and fuel costs.

After running out of UK honey, make sure you buy Canadian{;-)
Did you know that the hives in the Peace River area are the most productive
in the world?
Graham


Disease free?


No! Mites are becoming a serious problem everywhere. I understand that
even NZ, long the source of queens for the North American honey industry,
is compromised. My ex and I used to keep bees many moons ago but didn't
have to concern ourselves with varoan mites. My neighbour is a commercial
keeper - when I see him, I'll ask him what the current status is.
Graham


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On 13/9/08 16:20, in article ,
"Graham" wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:56:39 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 13/9/08 15:46, in article ,
"Graham" wrote:

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0100, Sacha wrote:

Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(

Another problem is that Chinese honey is being exported under the names of
other countries. There are also some problems with adulteration,
especially as prices go up due to hive failures and fuel costs.

After running out of UK honey, make sure you buy Canadian{;-)
Did you know that the hives in the Peace River area are the most productive
in the world?
Graham


Disease free?


No! Mites are becoming a serious problem everywhere. I understand that
even NZ, long the source of queens for the North American honey industry,
is compromised. My ex and I used to keep bees many moons ago but didn't
have to concern ourselves with varoan mites. My neighbour is a commercial
keeper - when I see him, I'll ask him what the current status is.
Graham


Don't know about Canada but I'm told one of the problems in USA has been the
transportation of hives over considerable distances to pollinate orchards.

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Don't know about Canada but I'm told one of the problems in USA has been
the
transportation of hives over considerable distances to pollinate orchards.


Don't know about transportation, they hitched a ride on our ship Aurora on
our Word Cruise in 2006 in the Panama Canal. A Bee Keeper came on board at
the other end of the canal and took them off.
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Sacha wrote:
Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(

Has that been my trouble I wonder?
It's been the worst year I can remember.
Maybe because of lack of pollinators.
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(

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http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon



I wouldn't believe such stories. They are either put out to boost falling
sales
or as an excuse to increase prices. Shops will lie about there being a
shortage.
I have loads of bees stopping off in the gardens here, more than ever.
Bees are not in decline, it's shops being greedy and idiots believing
everything
they hear or even see on the Internet.
You could always get the New Zealand honey which is £11.50 a jar if you
believe it gives you eternal life, cures every illness and fights global
warming.




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"'Mike'" wrote in message
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Don't know about Canada but I'm told one of the problems in USA has been
the
transportation of hives over considerable distances to pollinate
orchards.


Don't know about transportation, they hitched a ride on our ship Aurora on
our Word Cruise in 2006 in the Panama Canal. A Bee Keeper came on board at
the other end of the canal and took them off.
Picture http://www.myalbum.com/Album=YQ7UHU4B

Kind regards
Mike

I expected something serious then, not just a few hundred! They could have
easily
killed that lot with a can of RAID spray - obviously standing well back.
Bees don't mind being transported if you do it a bit at a time. If you just
take the
bee hive and move it, they will go back to where they come from. Do it
little by
little and they get used to the slight move.


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.. Do it
little by
little and they get used to the slight move.



we were moving 'slowly' through the Panama Canal ;-)))


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Ian wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


I wouldn't believe such stories. They are either put out to boost falling
sales
or as an excuse to increase prices. Shops will lie about there being a
shortage.
I have loads of bees stopping off in the gardens here, more than ever.
Bees are not in decline, it's shops being greedy and idiots believing
everything
they hear or even see on the Internet.


A local bee keeper says his production is down by over 30% this year, and
he reports other local keepers reporting similar.

I saw no honey bees this year, though there have been no shortage of other
bees.

Some idiots can be too cynical

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On 14/9/08 23:10, in article , "Jim
Jackson" wrote:

Ian wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers and
for gardeners. ;-(


I wouldn't believe such stories. They are either put out to boost falling
sales
or as an excuse to increase prices. Shops will lie about there being a
shortage.
I have loads of bees stopping off in the gardens here, more than ever.
Bees are not in decline, it's shops being greedy and idiots believing
everything
they hear or even see on the Internet.


A local bee keeper says his production is down by over 30% this year, and
he reports other local keepers reporting similar.

I saw no honey bees this year, though there have been no shortage of other
bees.

Some idiots can be too cynical

It's a widely reported problem and this is just the latest in that line.
Cynical sometimes militates against the cynics, unfortunately. ;-(

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"Jim Jackson" wrote in message
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Ian wrote:

"Sacha" wrote in message
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Apparently stores are going to run out of British honey by Christmas as
there is such a shortage of honey bees now. Bad news for honey-lovers
and
for gardeners. ;-(


I wouldn't believe such stories. They are either put out to boost
falling
sales
or as an excuse to increase prices. Shops will lie about there being a
shortage.
I have loads of bees stopping off in the gardens here, more than ever.
Bees are not in decline, it's shops being greedy and idiots believing
everything
they hear or even see on the Internet.


A local bee keeper says his production is down by over 30% this year, and
he reports other local keepers reporting similar.


Some have had good harvests and some average ones. There are geographical,
meteorological and management differences - as well as breeds.

I saw no honey bees this year, though there have been no shortage of other
bees.


I've seen very few solitary bees this year, fewer than average honey bees
and average numbers of bumble bees - but not all types.

And I know the difference.

Some idiots can be too cynical


There are differences among idiots too.



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