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Rat problem
I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get
the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. |
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from "Amateur Gardener" contains these words: I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! Not big enough. You need: some lengths of plastic drainpipe - say, of two feet. Starting with a longer length, cut them out like this: __________________________________________________ ________ |/ \/ \/ \/| ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ _ __ _ |/ Discard \/ Keep - turn ( ) _______ ________ ^ / -- \ L_ cut ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ __ Cut the bottoms of the \/ wedge-shaped bits of tube you have left over, so you can slip them over the pipes. Cut holes in the middle of pipes, so you can put at least a wineglass of poison in - or a tomato purée tin full. Slip cut ring over hole. Place pipes beside vertical surfaces - rats (and mice) tend to run along the bases of walls, etc. Yhey like tubes like drainpipe to run through... "Ohhh! Dinner!" Don't forget to check them and to keep them topped-up - rat poison isn't immediate, and it may well take a week or more to have a permanent effect. Remember too, that hedgehogs and animals you might not want to annihilate will eat rat poison, hence the pipes. TAAAW, it is illegal to leave open trays of ratpoison about willy-nilly. The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) Bait them with chocolate. How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. More poison. If they continue to turn up, -- Tony http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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"Amateur Gardener" wrote in message ... I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. If you don't want to buy one of these, a large tin lid usually does the same job. However, if pigeons feed at the table, their messy eating habits will scatter food on the ground anyway, which will still attract the rats. The only remaining options are to a) stop putting out bread for the birds :~( or b) to call in the council rat operative, who will probably tell you to stop putting out bread anyway :~( Also, there is a kind of pepper which you can buy to dust on bird food. Squirrels can't stand it, but birds are still able to eat the food. Only guessing, but since a squirrel is essentially a rat, it may deter rats too. Alas, I can't remember the name .. it may be cayenne or paprika .. or something else. Hopefully, someone else here will know ... or you could google for the RSPB site. Spider |
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[quote] If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a
squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. [quote] I have watched a rat let itself down onto a plastic dome, curl the end of its tail around the support and then it was able to reach the food. They are very intelligent beasties. Poisoned bait in a tube was the only effective deterrent [apart from a good active terrier!]. |
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"Spider" wrote after... "Amateur Gardener" wrote in message I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. If you don't want to buy one of these, a large tin lid usually does the same job. However, if pigeons feed at the table, their messy eating habits will scatter food on the ground anyway, which will still attract the rats. The only remaining options are to a) stop putting out bread for the birds :~( or b) to call in the council rat operative, who will probably tell you to stop putting out bread anyway :~( Also, there is a kind of pepper which you can buy to dust on bird food. Squirrels can't stand it, but birds are still able to eat the food. Only guessing, but since a squirrel is essentially a rat, it may deter rats too. Alas, I can't remember the name .. it may be cayenne or paprika .. or something else. Hopefully, someone else here will know ... or you could google for the RSPB site. IME not all Local Councils have Pest Controllers nowadays, ours hasn't. We had to pay Rentakil to rid us of our rats in our garden at home, they were even swimming out onto our pond to take the Koi food! We also found that the rodent poisons sold by GCs didn't work on the ones on our allotment that were eating stuff so we got hold of some professional poison in sachets which works well but I think some of the small rodents that are causing problems don't like the peanut butter smell. Oh for a few good hunting cats locally. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Spider" wrote after... "Amateur Gardener" wrote in message I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. If you don't want to buy one of these, a large tin lid usually does the same job. However, if pigeons feed at the table, their messy eating habits will scatter food on the ground anyway, which will still attract the rats. The only remaining options are to a) stop putting out bread for the birds :~( or b) to call in the council rat operative, who will probably tell you to stop putting out bread anyway :~( Also, there is a kind of pepper which you can buy to dust on bird food. Squirrels can't stand it, but birds are still able to eat the food. Only guessing, but since a squirrel is essentially a rat, it may deter rats too. Alas, I can't remember the name .. it may be cayenne or paprika .. or something else. Hopefully, someone else here will know ... or you could google for the RSPB site. IME not all Local Councils have Pest Controllers nowadays, ours hasn't. We had to pay Rentakil to rid us of our rats in our garden at home, they were even swimming out onto our pond to take the Koi food! We also found that the rodent poisons sold by GCs didn't work on the ones on our allotment that were eating stuff so we got hold of some professional poison in sachets which works well but I think some of the small rodents that are causing problems don't like the peanut butter smell. Oh for a few good hunting cats locally. -- Regards Bob Hobden Well, I confess that I have cats, and I certainly don't have a rat problem. However, suggesting a cat solution on a gardening ng is likely to get one linched. Further, suggesting it to someone who feeds birds is tantamount to a death wish! I decided not to go there. How brave does that make you!? Spider |
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"Spider" wrote in message ... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Spider" wrote after... "Amateur Gardener" wrote in message I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. If you don't want to buy one of these, a large tin lid usually does the same job. However, if pigeons feed at the table, their messy eating habits will scatter food on the ground anyway, which will still attract the rats. The only remaining options are to a) stop putting out bread for the birds :~( or b) to call in the council rat operative, who will probably tell you to stop putting out bread anyway :~( Also, there is a kind of pepper which you can buy to dust on bird food. Squirrels can't stand it, but birds are still able to eat the food. Only guessing, but since a squirrel is essentially a rat, it may deter rats too. Alas, I can't remember the name .. it may be cayenne or paprika .. or something else. Hopefully, someone else here will know ... or you could google for the RSPB site. IME not all Local Councils have Pest Controllers nowadays, ours hasn't. We had to pay Rentakil to rid us of our rats in our garden at home, they were even swimming out onto our pond to take the Koi food! We also found that the rodent poisons sold by GCs didn't work on the ones on our allotment that were eating stuff so we got hold of some professional poison in sachets which works well but I think some of the small rodents that are causing problems don't like the peanut butter smell. Oh for a few good hunting cats locally. -- Regards Bob Hobden Well, I confess that I have cats, and I certainly don't have a rat problem. However, suggesting a cat solution on a gardening ng is likely to get one linched. Further, suggesting it to someone who feeds birds is tantamount to a death wish! I decided not to go there. How brave does that make you!? Spider I would contact your local council and see what services they provide for pest control . It is free where is live . Keith |
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In message , Spider
wrote Well, I confess that I have cats, and I certainly don't have a rat problem. However, suggesting a cat solution on a gardening ng is likely to get one linched. Further, suggesting it to someone who feeds birds is tantamount to a death wish! I decided not to go there. How brave does that make you!? Get a cat and get rid of the bird problem at the same time. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: IME not all Local Councils have Pest Controllers nowadays, ours hasn't. We had to pay Rentakil to rid us of our rats in our garden at home, they were even swimming out onto our pond to take the Koi food! We also found that the rodent poisons sold by GCs didn't work on the ones on our allotment that were eating stuff so we got hold of some professional poison in sachets which works well but I think some of the small rodents that are causing problems don't like the peanut butter smell. Oh for a few good hunting cats locally. When there are rats about I take a pump-up air pistol around with me. Also have a pre-charged air rifle with a big 'scope, and loads of other things that go *BANG!*. However, with the layout of the locality, I have to be extremely careful where and when I use the airguns. Smokepoles are a no-no... -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Rusty_Hinge wrote: When there are rats about I take a pump-up air pistol around with me. Also have a pre-charged air rifle with a big 'scope, and loads of other things that go *BANG!*. A 4-bore loaded with SSG? Suitable for rats of any size :-) Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Spider" wrote after... "Amateur Gardener" wrote in message I've just become aware of rats running up the bird table to get the bread. The rats seem to live under the shed. I've put down poison bait on tobacco tin lids under the shed, and this gets taken, but so do the tin lids! The rats ignore the spring traps and the squirrel trap (big square wire frame) How do I get rid of them and also know that I've got rid of them? They're only 10 foot from the kitchen door which I now keep resolutely closed. If you only put bread on the bird table and not the ground, try using a squirrel baffle (large plastic dome used umbrella-like on the leg of the bird table) to stop the rats reaching the table surface. If you don't want to buy one of these, a large tin lid usually does the same job. However, if pigeons feed at the table, their messy eating habits will scatter food on the ground anyway, which will still attract the rats. The only remaining options are to a) stop putting out bread for the birds :~( or b) to call in the council rat operative, who will probably tell you to stop putting out bread anyway :~( Also, there is a kind of pepper which you can buy to dust on bird food. Squirrels can't stand it, but birds are still able to eat the food. Only guessing, but since a squirrel is essentially a rat, it may deter rats too. Alas, I can't remember the name .. it may be cayenne or paprika .. or something else. Hopefully, someone else here will know ... or you could google for the RSPB site. IME not all Local Councils have Pest Controllers nowadays, ours hasn't. We had to pay Rentakil to rid us of our rats in our garden at home, they were even swimming out onto our pond to take the Koi food! We also found that the rodent poisons sold by GCs didn't work on the ones on our allotment that were eating stuff so we got hold of some professional poison in sachets which works well but I think some of the small rodents that are causing problems don't like the peanut butter smell. Oh for a few good hunting cats locally. My cat kills young rats happily which is good as they don't grow up to be big ones. He does not try to tackle the large grandfather ones with the huge teeth. He pretends he does not see them and washes himself if he spots one. I don't blame him. Some are almost too much for the terriers. Big uns that cling on their nose and make them bleed, antiseptic needed afterwards. It just seems to make the terriers more determined. No rat has lived no matter how it makes the dogs yelp. |
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from "Christina Websell" contains these words: My cat kills young rats happily which is good as they don't grow up to be big ones. He does not try to tackle the large grandfather ones with the huge teeth. He pretends he does not see them and washes himself if he spots one. I don't blame him. I had a cat which had a proportion of Highland wildcat in her genes. The first rat she saw was a big one - her eyes grew like saucers, and she went and sat by the hole (under next-door's summerhouse - the girls kept guinea pigs...) I called her for her meal. She ignored me. The next morning she was still sitting there, her meal untouched. When I came home in the evening she was still sitting there, her meal still untouched. In the morning her meal was untouched, but had grown by the addition of the hind legs and tail of a rather large rat. Guess where she was sitting? Some are almost too much for the terriers. Big uns that cling on their nose and make them bleed, antiseptic needed afterwards. It just seems to make the terriers more determined. No rat has lived no matter how it makes the dogs yelp. Generally, the terriers only get bitten once... -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Christina Websell" contains these words: My cat kills young rats happily which is good as they don't grow up to be big ones. He does not try to tackle the large grandfather ones with the huge teeth. He pretends he does not see them and washes himself if he spots one. I don't blame him. I had a cat which had a proportion of Highland wildcat in her genes. The first rat she saw was a big one - her eyes grew like saucers, and she went and sat by the hole (under next-door's summerhouse - the girls kept guinea pigs...) I called her for her meal. She ignored me. The next morning she was still sitting there, her meal untouched. When I came home in the evening she was still sitting there, her meal still untouched. In the morning her meal was untouched, but had grown by the addition of the hind legs and tail of a rather large rat. Guess where she was sitting? Some are almost too much for the terriers. Big uns that cling on their nose and make them bleed, antiseptic needed afterwards. It just seems to make the terriers more determined. No rat has lived no matter how it makes the dogs yelp. Generally, the terriers only get bitten once... Yes. I've stopped using poison, I don't like what it does. I will always have rats here because I have poultry and they come for the food. Every few weeks I invite the terriers and the rats get smoked out into their jaws. Sometimes we get a huge grandfather rat that bites the terriers faces to bits but they still hang on and lets say that the terriers win. It's not something I like to do. |
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