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Default Are "conservationists" wiping out the red squirrel?

Could more of the same wipe out red squirrels?

For years conservationists have told us that grey squirrels are the
"cause" of the red squirrel decline through the transmission of
squirrel-pox virus (SQPV) and by competition for food resources. We
were also told that the creation of buffer zones around known red
squirrel locations, where greys would be trapped and killed, would
allow reds to make a significant comeback.

Not so it seems!

In one such place, the Sefton and Ainsdale districts of Merseyside, a
buffer zone has been in place for a number of years but coincided with
increased human exploitation of red squirrels for tourism, tree
felling for conservation purposes, and the frequent intrusion by
conservationists for monitoring population levels. All this is likely
to lead to stress and loss of condition of the shy and reclusive red
squirrel resulting in an increased susceptibility to disease.

SQPV can be spread through contact with infected lesions or
contaminated crusts. Most viruses of this type are very resistant to
drying and have the capacity to live for a considerable time outside
the host cells, thus providing the potential for spreading the disease
throughout the forest environment by any number of mammals or birds
that comes in to contact with it. If any animal comes into contact
with infected material there must be a distinct probability of the
virus being transferred to another location.

To exclusively blame the grey squirrel is as unfair as it is bordering
on racism when conservationists fail to reveal all other possible
routes of infection including transmission between red squirrels
themselves and by visitors and their dogs - both of which seem to be
deliberately suppressed.

With regard to competition for food resources: If conservationists
want to assist the reds to survive, they should be improving their
habitat by planting trees in which they thrive, instead of the
political fad of wallpapering the countryside with native broadleaves
that favours the greys' expansion and the reds' demise. .

In short, fewer grey squirrels at Sefton and Ainsdale together with
more conservation activity and tourist intrusion has resulted in a
massive decline in the red squirrel population - definitely not the
predicted outcome.

The conservationists' catastrophic policy for the survival of red
squirrels in Merseyside has gone badly wrong and incredibly they are
advocating more of the same hate campaign against grey squirrels as
the solution and the gravy train that goes with it.


Please read the website
www.grey-squirrel.org.uk
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

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First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
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On Feb 10, 9:29*pm, wrote:

Q: How many conservationists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Any number you like but it will never get changed because they are
all so busy telling everybody else that they are the only people who
know how to do it.

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"moghouse" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 9:29 pm, wrote:

Q: How many conservationists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Any number you like but it will never get changed because they are
all so busy telling everybody else that they are the only people who
know how to do it.


"To exclusively blame the grey squirrel is as unfair as it is bordering
on racism when conservationists fail to reveal all other possible
routes of infection including transmission between red squirrels
themselves and by visitors and their dogs - both of which seem to be
deliberately suppressed. "

As a shooter of many years I can assure you dogs do not climb trees nor do
they carry
Parapox Virus fatal to Red Squirrel which Grey Squirrels spread but rarely
die from. The guys argument is flawed on just about every level but hey
thats the nature of conservation a haven for muppets with time on their
hands
Derek


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"Derek" wrote in message
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"moghouse" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 9:29 pm, wrote:

Q: How many conservationists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: Any number you like but it will never get changed because they are
all so busy telling everybody else that they are the only people who
know how to do it.


"To exclusively blame the grey squirrel is as unfair as it is bordering
on racism when conservationists fail to reveal all other possible
routes of infection including transmission between red squirrels
themselves and by visitors and their dogs - both of which seem to be
deliberately suppressed. "

As a shooter of many years I can assure you dogs do not climb trees nor do
they carry
Parapox Virus fatal to Red Squirrel which Grey Squirrels spread but rarely
die from. The guys argument is flawed on just about every level but hey
thats the nature of conservation a haven for muppets with time on their
hands


Angus (the OP) will have been very pleased to read your view of conservation
and conservationists, since he loathes and detests it and them, with a
vengeance :-)


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On Feb 10, 9:29 pm, wrote:


Q: How many conservationists does it take to change a light bulb?


A: Any number you like but it will never get changed because they are
all so busy telling everybody else that they are the only people who
know how to do it.



"To exclusively blame the grey squirrel is as unfair as it is bordering
on racism when conservationists fail to reveal all other possible
routes of infection including transmission between red squirrels
themselves and by visitors and their dogs - both of which seem to be
deliberately suppressed. "


As a shooter of many years I can assure you dogs do not climb trees nor do
they carry
Parapox Virus fatal to Red Squirrel which Grey Squirrels spread but rarely
die from. The guys argument is flawed on just about every level but hey
thats the nature of conservation a haven for muppets with time on their
hands


Well-known troll is yer McPillock.

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