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"'Mike'" wrote in message ... -- .................................................. ............. "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote... What will your garden look like in 2,000,000 (2 Million) years time? (The Earth is reputed to be 36,000,000,000 years old. That is 36 Thousand Million) Just think, how important are you really? ........ ;-) If the worlds population keeps breeding like it is then I don't see a world then. -- Regards Bob Hobden I see a World Bob but not with a Human Race in/on it as we know now. Have you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? NONE But why would we want to? It's not my intention by joining in with newsgroups that interest me to become a famous historical figure! I don't quite follow your logic. Everyone is important in their own way, certainly to their family and often in ways that they contribute to society. It's certainly not necessary in my opinion that you have to hit the history books to be *important.* |
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On Feb 20, 5:33*pm, "'Mike'" wrote:
you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? We are underwhelmed by your insignificance. You are but a grain of sand on the beach of life. Whereas the all the rest of us on this group are the real deal! |
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from Martin Brown contains these words: /snip/ Actually we do have some pretty good examples in the millisecond pulsars for instance. Shortly after the first discovery of a binary ms pulsar an error was found in the FORTRAN converter of the early VSOP computer algebra generated planetary ephemeris thanks to a systematic error in the GR predicted delay observed when the signals passed near to Jupiter. The spin down rate matches the GR predictions very nicely. Ah, early 486 chip then? or even that the red shift is due to recession, and We don't know this for certain (but it is likely to be true for the vast majority of normal light emitting stars), but for some extremely compact objects some of the redshift could come from photons having to climb out of a very deep gravitational potential well. But on a galactic scale such objects seem rather unlikely except near the central black hole. And we do see a picket fence of intervening Lyman alpha absorbtion lines in the continuum of allegedly distant sources at high redshift. there are alternative hypotheses that are mathematically consistent and compatible with known physics. Yes, they're probably wrong, but that doesn't prove the current hypotheses are right. Indeed. But the evidence for a Big Bang cosmology is pretty compelling. There are very few die hard Steady Staters remaining these days. Depending on what you mean by that. There are plenty who believe that the universe is continuously expansing and then falling in on itself in an unending cycle of big crunches ans big bangs. There are also some who posit continuous creation/generation of matter at the centre of the universe, and yet others who maintain that by means of a contorted space/time continuum what goes out of the fringes appears to be coming in through the centre... Anyway, how come the universe doesn't rank a capital letter, and Belgium does? -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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Rusty_Hinge wrote:
The message from Martin Brown contains these words: /snip/ Actually we do have some pretty good examples in the millisecond pulsars for instance. Shortly after the first discovery of a binary ms pulsar an error was found in the FORTRAN converter of the early VSOP computer algebra generated planetary ephemeris thanks to a systematic error in the GR predicted delay observed when the signals passed near to Jupiter. The spin down rate matches the GR predictions very nicely. Ah, early 486 chip then? No a long way before that. I am not sure if the 286 had been invented back then. I heard about it first hand in 1984. ISTR it had something to do with continuation cards in the FORTRAN conversion output of a symbolic algebra system. It was big iron mainframe stuff. http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...993/press.html This quirk isn't mentioned in their Nobel prize citation, but it was quite interesting at the time. Their observations were accurate enough to find fault in a solar system ephemeris model that was unchallenged in its precision and widely assumed to be good enough for all practical purposes. there are alternative hypotheses that are mathematically consistent and compatible with known physics. Yes, they're probably wrong, but that doesn't prove the current hypotheses are right. Indeed. But the evidence for a Big Bang cosmology is pretty compelling. There are very few die hard Steady Staters remaining these days. Depending on what you mean by that. There are plenty who believe that the universe is continuously expansing and then falling in on itself in an unending cycle of big crunches ans big bangs. Some of these ideas can be ruled out observationally. Unless you invoke a perverse deity to tweak things around on an ad hoc basis. One nasty world model invokes demons whose job it is to decide on surprising answers to any new questions that experimentalists decide to ask. It is just so much more appealing to have the laws of physics the same for all observers in an inertial frame of reference. Multiverse conjectures allow for spanning all possible universes but with only the interesting ones really showing up. A bit like the way wave propagation of light simplifies to geometrical optics when viewed at the larger scale. There are also some who posit continuous creation/generation of matter at the centre of the universe, and yet others who maintain that by means of a contorted space/time continuum what goes out of the fringes appears to be coming in through the centre... Anyway, how come the universe doesn't rank a capital letter, and Belgium does? I would refer you to HHGG Regards, Martin Brown |
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:12:37 -0000, "Christina Websell"
wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message ... -- .................................................. ............. "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote... What will your garden look like in 2,000,000 (2 Million) years time? (The Earth is reputed to be 36,000,000,000 years old. That is 36 Thousand Million) Just think, how important are you really? ........ ;-) If the worlds population keeps breeding like it is then I don't see a world then. -- Regards Bob Hobden I see a World Bob but not with a Human Race in/on it as we know now. Have you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? NONE But why would we want to? It's not my intention by joining in with newsgroups that interest me to become a famous historical figure! I don't quite follow your logic. Everyone is important in their own way, certainly to their family and often in ways that they contribute to society. It's certainly not necessary in my opinion that you have to hit the history books to be *important.* Don't worry about it. He comes out with these things from time to time, usually just copied from somewhere else on the web, to start an argument. Unfortunately he's not clever enough to carry it through and ends up looking even more stupid. |
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-- .................................................. .............. "Fuschia" wrote in message ... On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:12:37 -0000, "Christina Websell" wrote: "'Mike'" wrote in message .. . -- .................................................. ............. "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "'Mike'" wrote... What will your garden look like in 2,000,000 (2 Million) years time? (The Earth is reputed to be 36,000,000,000 years old. That is 36 Thousand Million) Just think, how important are you really? ........ ;-) If the worlds population keeps breeding like it is then I don't see a world then. -- Regards Bob Hobden I see a World Bob but not with a Human Race in/on it as we know now. Have you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? NONE But why would we want to? It's not my intention by joining in with newsgroups that interest me to become a famous historical figure! I don't quite follow your logic. Everyone is important in their own way, certainly to their family and often in ways that they contribute to society. It's certainly not necessary in my opinion that you have to hit the history books to be *important.* Don't worry about it. He comes out with these things from time to time, usually just copied from somewhere else on the web, to start an argument. Unfortunately he's not clever enough to carry it through and ends up looking even more stupid. My point exactly. "YOU" are cleverer than me, in your eyes. And being cleverer makes you more important? 'Higher' than me? And lots of others? You are important to you and no one else. Just as I am not important to you. I am insignificant, but I acknowledge that, it's just a pity that those who feel 'so' important are unable to see that too. |
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-- .................................................. .............. "moghouse" wrote in message ... On Feb 20, 5:33 pm, "'Mike'" wrote: you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? We are underwhelmed by your insignificance. You are but a grain of sand on the beach of life. Whereas the all the rest of us on this group are the real deal! -------------------------------------------------- We are ALL but a grain of sand on the beach of life, but some cannot see it :-( |
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In message , 'Mike'
writes ................................................. .............. "moghouse" wrote in message ... On Feb 20, 5:33 pm, "'Mike'" wrote: you seen the time lapse video of a Motorway 'left to nature'? My point is, that so many people think that they are 'so important', but in reality they are like the hand in a bucket of water analogy. Pull your hand out of a bucket of water and a few ripples will appear, but they will soon die down. 'THE IMPORTANT' people, or those who feel they are important, are like that, soon forgotten and not important at all. Historical figures maybe, but who on this/these newsgroups will EVER hit the History books? We are underwhelmed by your insignificance. You are but a grain of sand on the beach of life. Whereas the all the rest of us on this group are the real deal! -------------------------------------------------- We are ALL but a grain of sand on the beach of life, but some cannot see it I don't see it because you are a f****ing idiot and reply below the signature line so it's all in blue and I can't be bothered to read it. From other people's replies I'm not missing much -- hugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting |
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Sacha wrote:
Oh, Christina, you're being very polite but - this person does this sort of thing all the time because it's the only way he can get attention. He starts absolutely ridiculous threads on things of no importance or relevance and he does that a lot. Any minute now he'll tell you about what happened on his last cruise! Ha! I was wondering why he hasn't bored us with that yet. Perhaps his new-found insignificance means that he realises that none of us care (well, you can live in hope!) He has a 'thing' about newsgroups being 'led' by a select number of people. It's been going on for years and years and it's infinitely boring. What he really means is "nobody's paying me any attention". He's the Violet Elizabeth Bott of urg and many unfortunate other groups, I'm afraid. Munchausen Syndrome. "An attention-seeking personality disorder which is more common than statistics suggest. Munchausen Syndrome, named after a German soldier renowned for exaggerated tales, is a predominantly female disorder in which an emotionally immature person with narcissistic tendencies, low self-esteem and a fragile ego has an overwhelming need to draw attention to him/herself and to be the centre of attention." |
Ouch my head hurts....thought this was a gardening forum not a testing ground for evolutionary theories, although very interesting it is.
As to the original question I believe my garden will look exactly the same in millions of years time. My reasoning for this is quite simple. My garden is currently stripped bare ready for redevelopment and looks as barren as a very dead planet which is probably exactly what we will have in a few million years time.... probably sooner the way things are going. My advice is to live for now, whats gone, and what will be, is beyond our control so don`t worry be happy. Enjoy your garden now. |
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As to the original question I believe my garden will look exactly the same in millions of years time. My reasoning for this is quite simple. My garden is currently stripped bare ready for redevelopment and looks as barren as a very dead planet which is probably exactly what we will have in a few million years time.... probably sooner the way things are going. Interesting theory. Are you saying that once again human activity will lay it bare as you have done through choice, or that the Earth will be barren 'as' a dead planet? If so, what killed it? Man? Climate change too extreme for 'any' life? Or what? Mike |
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from Martin Brown contains these words: /snip/ It might be easier to continue it here with [OT] in the headers. Or create 'alt.cosmology.no.nutters.please'? And to make sure they have somewhere else to play, 'alt.cosmology.einstein.was.right', and follow that up with 'alt.mike' - and lock the door. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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The message
from Martin Brown contains these words: Ah, early 486 chip then? No a long way before that. I am not sure if the 286 had been invented back then. I heard about it first hand in 1984. ISTR it had something to do with continuation cards in the FORTRAN conversion output of a symbolic algebra system. It was big iron mainframe stuff. (I don't do smileys...) -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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