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Hi all
I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. TIA Phil |
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TheScullster wrote:
Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. TIA Phil We found that repeated water soaking seems to have kept the local felines away. |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:52:30 +0000, TheScullster wrote:
Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. Extra manure is a problem? |
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On Mar 16, 8:52*am, "TheScullster" wrote:
Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. A rather sad comment! I know spring has really arrived as one of my cats came in this morning with his first rabbit of the season. (Wouldn't Mr McGregor be pleased!) Likewise I have not seen a rat or mole (other than dead ones ) in my garden for some years. Is it really beyond your wit to keep a cat off your seed bed or whatever you claim they do? I have no trouble from either my cats or the neighbours' animals. Let me assure you as an expert in cat psychology of over 60 years standing, a cat will not be put off by a bit of water spray or a tossed clod of mud, it will only make him more wary of you. The cat's belief is that he owns the world (including your garden and anywhere else he wants to roam) - and I have to tell you he's right, so learn to live with it, accept the benefits and learn to cope with the disadvantages, if any. |
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from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. The chemical breaks down into garden-friendly compounds, and the cats smell something humans can't. Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. True. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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from Derek Turner contains these words: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:52:30 +0000, TheScullster wrote: Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. Extra manure is a problem? Do you want to come and weed where my neighbour's cat has just crapped? -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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On Mar 16, 12:48*pm, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:34:28 -0700 (PDT), moghouse wrote: On Mar 16, 8:52*am, "TheScullster" wrote: Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. A rather sad comment! I know spring has really arrived as one of my cats came in this morning with his first rabbit of the season. (Wouldn't Mr McGregor be pleased!) Likewise I have not seen a rat or mole (other than dead ones ) in my garden for some years. Is it really beyond your wit to keep a cat off your seed bed or whatever you claim they do? I have no trouble from either my cats or the neighbours' animals. Let me assure you as an expert in cat psychology of over 60 years standing, a cat will not be put off by a bit of water spray or a tossed clod of mud, it will only make him more wary of you. The cat's belief is that he owns the world (including your garden and anywhere else he wants to roam) - and I have to tell you he's right, so learn to live with it, accept the benefits and learn to cope with the disadvantages, if any. You have just been added to the hit list of those who love killing things and boasting about it on urg. -- Martin- Not me, guv, honest, it was them vicious pussy cats wot dun it! |
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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote Derek Turner contains : TheScullster wrote: Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. Extra manure is a problem? Do you want to come and weed where my neighbour's cat has just crapped? Our last allotment had a neighbour with 27 cats and ours was the nearest soft earth. No problem, we welcomed them there and we would welcome some cats on our new site to rid us of the rabbits, mice and rats which are an infinitely worse problem than a bit of cat poo, which you can just bury deep. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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Rusty_Hinge wrote:
The message from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. I've always understood that chemical distributors will not supply to the general public ('elf & safety, and all that. And, of course, liability). But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. -- Jeff |
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On Mar 16, 1:36*pm, Rusty_Hinge
wrote: The message from Derek Turner contains these words: On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:52:30 +0000, TheScullster wrote: Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. Extra manure is a problem? Do you want to come and weed where my neighbour's cat has just crapped? Oh dear, the mighty human brain, peak of natural development and selection, the greatest of God's creations (if you believe in that stuff) and it can't figure a way to keep the litlle pussy wussy off his nice garden? Shame. |
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: Our last allotment had a neighbour with 27 cats and ours was the nearest soft earth. No problem, we welcomed them there and we would welcome some cats on our new site to rid us of the rabbits, mice and rats which are an infinitely worse problem than a bit of cat poo, which you can just bury deep. After washing your hands. Thoroughly. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Rusty_Hinge wrote: The message from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. I've always understood that chemical distributors will not supply to the general public ('elf & safety, and all that. And, of course, liability). That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more. You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming you go in wearing yer long trousis... But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i was wrong) and - oops! Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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from moghouse contains these words: On Mar 16, 1:36*pm, Rusty_Hinge wrote: Do you want to come and weed where my neighbour's cat has just crapped? Oh dear, the mighty human brain, peak of natural development and selection, the greatest of God's creations (if you believe in that stuff) and it can't figure a way to keep the litlle pussy wussy off his nice garden? Shame. The Mighty Human Brian can devise a multiplicity of devious and deadly deeds to denude the area of pussy-wussy. 1) Flintlock 4-bore heffalump gnu 2) Percussion 10-bore shotgnu 3) Percussion 14-bore shotgnu 3) 23-30-120 varmint riffle 4) 577/450 riffle 5) 577/450 artillery crabine 6) M77 10·15 mm Werndl riffle 6) 1851 Adams Dragoon 7) various others of that ilk 8) various air gnus and the possibility of a cuddly pair of polecats to come... -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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On Mar 16, 6:45*pm, Rusty_Hinge
wrote: The message from moghouse contains these words: On Mar 16, 1:36*pm, Rusty_Hinge wrote: Do you want to come and weed where my neighbour's cat has just crapped? Oh dear, the mighty human brain, peak of natural development and selection, the greatest of God's creations (if you believe in that stuff) and it can't figure a way to keep the litlle pussy wussy off his nice garden? Shame. The Mighty Human Brian can devise a multiplicity of devious and deadly deeds to denude the area of pussy-wussy. 1) Flintlock 4-bore heffalump gnu 2) Percussion 10-bore shotgnu 3) Percussion 14-bore shotgnu 3) 23-30-120 varmint riffle 4) 577/450 riffle 5) 577/450 artillery crabine 6) M77 10·15 mm Werndl riffle 6) 1851 Adams Dragoon 7) various others of that ilk 8) various air gnus and the possibility of a cuddly pair of polecats to come... -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Oh come, come, surely violence isn't necessary. Think a bit harder. |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message ... Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". High pressure washer aimed from point blank range works. I would not advise a brick! Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No it just learns to watch out for you. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Poison inside cat food could work. Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. TIA Phil You can get stuff to drive cats away. |
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from moghouse contains these words: Oh come, come, surely violence isn't necessary. Think a bit harder. ACHTUNG! MINEN! ? -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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Rusty_Hinge wrote: The message from moghouse contains these words: Oh come, come, surely violence isn't necessary. Think a bit harder. ACHTUNG! MINEN! ? Now, now, Rusty - that's slightly extreme for mere roof rabbits. Tempting, I agree .... Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Rusty_Hinge wrote: The message from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. I've always understood that chemical distributors will not supply to the general public ('elf & safety, and all that. And, of course, liability). That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more. You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming you go in wearing yer long trousis... But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i was wrong) and - oops! Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt. My local chemist who I have known for years won't sell me oxalic acid (which I want to use for bleaching old linen and cotton fabrics) because it's no longer permitted. It used to be, in the days when we were treated as adults. someone |
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from "someone" contains these words: My local chemist who I have known for years won't sell me oxalic acid (which I want to use for bleaching old linen and cotton fabrics) because it's no longer permitted. It used to be, in the days when we were treated as adults. I shall probably boil down rhubarb leaves and bleach the liquor - I want it for removing iron stains from wood. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message ... Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. As a cat owner I know all about getting rid of cats! My neighbour's cats seem to think my garden is fair game. The water pistol will work. After a while you only have to appear with it and they run. Hard missiles not recommended, as an injured cat can get you into a lot of trouble. I discourage all cats from certain beds [I leave one specifically for mine, in the hope that they will use their loo and not my neighbours gardens] with a cat repellent containing citronella and something else. Can't think of the name right now but I'm due to buy some more. I'll post the name when I do. Oh, and lion poo works. Apparently :-} -- Kathy It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider. |
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TheScullster wrote:
Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. TIA Phil No brainer! Get a cat of your own, preferably female. It will crap in someone else's patch; will defend its territory against other cats and will kill off invading rabits, mice and rats etc. Plus damn good company for U. rjbl (ex-cat-"owner" - now with a garden overun with mice, moles, rats and rabits) |
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"someone" wrote in message ... "Rusty_Hinge" wrote in message . uk... The message from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Rusty_Hinge wrote: The message from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. I've always understood that chemical distributors will not supply to the general public ('elf & safety, and all that. And, of course, liability). That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more. You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming you go in wearing yer long trousis... But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i was wrong) and - oops! Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt. My local chemist who I have known for years won't sell me oxalic acid (which I want to use for bleaching old linen and cotton fabrics) because it's no longer permitted. It used to be, in the days when we were treated as adults. I think it has more to do with restricting chemicals which can be used for homemade explosives. mark |
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On Mar 17, 9:26*am, Aries wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:52:30 -0000, TheScullster wrote: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. TIA Phil I don't know if this will help you at all but we have two cats and the only way I've found to keep them off of my veg plot is to have raised beds for which my hubby has made simple rectangular wooden frames covered in chicken wire to fit each one which protects the seeds and growing seedlings. *As the plants grow of course I can raise them up higher on brick and when there isn't enough tempting soil to attract the cats I remove the frames. Sounds a lot of trouble to go to but it isn't really, not if you want to protect your plants. *These frames also protect my newly sown seeds from squirrels and birds as before I had them either or both would scratch up the seeds for a free feed at my expense ! There you go, Rusty, Humans 1 Felines 0 |
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On Mar 17, 12:04*am, "Kathy" wrote:
As a cat owner I know all about getting rid of cats! *My neighbour's cats seem to think my garden is fair game. Now don't go and undo all my hard work - it has taken me months to train my pussies to poo in your garden not mine! |
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Aries wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:52:30 -0000, TheScullster wrote: I don't know if this will help you at all but we have two cats and the only way I've found to keep them off of my veg plot is to have raised beds for which my hubby has made simple rectangular wooden frames covered in chicken wire to fit each one which protects the seeds and growing seedlings. As the plants grow of course I can raise them up higher on brick and when there isn't enough tempting soil to attract the cats I remove the frames. Sounds a lot of trouble to go to but it isn't really, not if you want to protect your plants. These frames also protect my newly sown seeds from squirrels and birds as before I had them either or both would scratch up the seeds for a free feed at my expense ! At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved :) |
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Rusty_Hinge wrote:
The message from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Rusty_Hinge wrote: The message from "TheScullster" contains these words: Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. No. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Find a chemical distributor and get a canister of aluminium ammonium sulphate. Sprinkle the crystals on the ground where they go. I've always understood that chemical distributors will not supply to the general public ('elf & safety, and all that. And, of course, liability). That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more. But were these sent to a business address or simply a personal home address? You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming you go in wearing yer long trousis... Oh yes - I was amazed when conc hydrochloric acid ("Spirits of salt") reappeared after many years of absence, and absolutely dumbfounded when conc sulphuric acid appeared as a drain unblocker. I expect this was an EC ruling. But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i was wrong) and - oops! Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt. I doubt it, but if the delivery van parked on a double yellow line, the judges black cap might come out! -- Jeff |
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Martin wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:57:58 -0000, "Jeff Layman" Oh yes - I was amazed when conc hydrochloric acid ("Spirits of salt") reappeared after many years of absence, and absolutely dumbfounded when conc sulphuric acid appeared as a drain unblocker. I expect this was an EC ruling. EU/1911225/af/en Directive for the unblocking of British drains using imported premium lager that the locals refuse to drink. LOL! -- Jeff |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:08:53 -0000, "Jeff Layman" wrote: Martin wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:57:58 -0000, "Jeff Layman" Oh yes - I was amazed when conc hydrochloric acid ("Spirits of salt") reappeared after many years of absence, and absolutely dumbfounded when conc sulphuric acid appeared as a drain unblocker. I expect this was an EC ruling. EU/1911225/af/en Directive for the unblocking of British drains using imported premium lager that the locals refuse to drink. LOL! The makers of a drain cleaner that reaches parts that others can't is launching a cider named Charli in UK this summer. http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/73...-Charli-cider/ but will it kill aphids too? Surely the real test of drinkability is whether, when you put it in a slug trap, the slugs happily climb in or give it a wide berth :-} -- Kathy Who uses cheap bitter in her slug traps. |
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Aries wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote: At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved :) Welcome :D In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to show how we do ours http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/ I am indeed very interested, thank you:) |
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Aries wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote: At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved :) Welcome :D In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to show how we do ours http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/ Have you seen the price of checken wire!? -- Pete C London UK |
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"Pete C" wrote in message ... Aries wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote: At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved :) Welcome :D In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to show how we do ours http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/ Have you seen the price of checken wire!? -- You could always knit your own. mark |
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mark wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message ... Aries wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote: At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved :) Welcome :D In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to show how we do ours http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/ Have you seen the price of checken wire!? -- You could always knit your own. mark lol |
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from "mark" contains these words: My local chemist who I have known for years won't sell me oxalic acid (which I want to use for bleaching old linen and cotton fabrics) because it's no longer permitted. It used to be, in the days when we were treated as adults. I think it has more to do with restricting chemicals which can be used for homemade explosives. Oxalic acid can't. And I don't notice any restriction in buying flour, sugar etc. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: /chemicals/ That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more. But were these sent to a business address or simply a personal home address? Neither - I went and collected them in my car. You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming you go in wearing yer long trousis... Oh yes - I was amazed when conc hydrochloric acid ("Spirits of salt") reappeared after many years of absence, and absolutely dumbfounded when conc sulphuric acid appeared as a drain unblocker. I expect this was an EC ruling. Dunno - I've often had a use for oleum (Conc. Sulphuric acid) caustic soda, spirits of salt, spirits of nitre (conc. nitric) certain cyanides, and still have, for most. But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply. His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he buys! Try doing that over here. I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i was wrong) and - oops! Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt. I doubt it, but if the delivery van parked on a double yellow line, the judges black cap might come out! Sulphuric, nitric, and the certain sugar derivative all purchased at the same time would attract a swat-squad like - ahem! - er - jam attracts wasps. -- Rusty Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message ... Hi all I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our feline "friends". Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone. If so, what level of deterrent is necessary? Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud Catapult with hard missiles Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water gun things ATM) From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic gizmos aren't worth bothering with. Hence the list of measures above. Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of cats cr@pping in my veg patch. I've really enjoyed this thread, thank you for starting it :-) Re cats: There are a lot of council sites for recycling stuff, and if you go to one of these and find old refrigerators or freezers that are going who-knows-where to be recycled for their CFCs or whatever, well, they usually have lots of wire racks/shelves in them. I have gathered about 50 of these over the years, including some that are 3-dimensional (i.e. cuboid)(probably came from a freezer), and when I sow my veg patch I strew these racks about over the seeds until the plants are tall enough to fend for themselves. So the garden looks pretty naff for a month or so, but by then the plants have grown up and the cat won't want to go there and you can remove them. The cuboid-ish one I use to protect my nepeta plant from...cats. Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in their own garden and they will keep other cats out. someone |
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On Mar 17, 10:43*pm, "someone" wrote:
Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in their own garden and they will keep other cats out. I regret to inform you that neither of those statements is really true. Your local branch of Cat Protection always has lots of cats looking for good homes but though you should enjoy the companionship and the vermit free environment you must be prepared for some small drawbacks too. |
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On Mar 18, 6:11*pm, denden wrote:
Hi there,this one really does work.Try spraying "Jeyes" fluid on the area where the cats are crapping.It worked on my garden.first remove cat s**t and spray.Use it neat or dilute very slightly. I'll bet it gives a real tang to your rhubarb too! |
Do Cats Get the Message
"moghouse" wrote in message ... On Mar 17, 10:43 pm, "someone" wrote: Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in their own garden and they will keep other cats out. I regret to inform you that neither of those statements is really true. Your local branch of Cat Protection always has lots of cats looking for good homes but though you should enjoy the companionship and the vermit free environment you must be prepared for some small drawbacks too. Yes. Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully placed to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the night :-} -- Kathy It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider. |
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