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"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote ...

Certainly not. Loss of leaves is down to overwatering or not watering or
frost damage. Only you can know which is the cause in your case.
Ours are already outside against their S. facing wall, I brought them back
in when a few degrees of frost was forecast last weekend but hopefully that
will be the last time this year they need protection.

The two large plants I rescued last year have just gone out, they started
re leafing in January and are now looking very well, but no flower buds,
as I do not know the origins they may be grown from pips, the trunks are
about 3" in diameter and they stand about 7' high so if they are seed
grown how much longer before they are older enough to start fruiting?!
They have spent the last 15 years growing under a Clematis montana and
were not discovered untill this was removed so they are already older
than 15 years. (The owner of the Clematis montana wanted shot of them)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

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The two large plants I rescued last year have just gone out, they started
re leafing in January and are now looking very well, but no flower buds,
as I do not know the origins they may be grown from pips, the trunks are
about 3" in diameter and they stand about 7' high so if they are seed
grown how much longer before they are older enough to start fruiting?!

Bob flowerdew reckons 20 - 30 years from the pip.

However, I shall be grafting from already-fruiting trees onto my 5-foot
specimen, and expecting fruit on the grafted bits.

They have spent the last 15 years growing under a Clematis montana and
were not discovered untill this was removed so they are already older
than 15 years. (The owner of the Clematis montana wanted shot of them)

Well, any time now...

--
Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:47:11 GMT, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:

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from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

The two large plants I rescued last year have just gone out, they started
re leafing in January and are now looking very well, but no flower buds,
as I do not know the origins they may be grown from pips, the trunks are
about 3" in diameter and they stand about 7' high so if they are seed
grown how much longer before they are older enough to start fruiting?!

Bob flowerdew reckons 20 - 30 years from the pip.


I keep hearing that estimate but a pip my mother planted and kept in
the unheated greenhouse "only" took 14 years to flower and fruit.
Unfortunately she passed away before seeing the fruits.

Steve

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On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:47:11 GMT, Rusty_Hinge
wrote:
The message
from Charlie Pridham contains these words:

The two large plants I rescued last year have just gone out, they
started
re leafing in January and are now looking very well, but no flower buds,
as I do not know the origins they may be grown from pips, the trunks are
about 3" in diameter and they stand about 7' high so if they are seed
grown how much longer before they are older enough to start fruiting?!

Bob flowerdew reckons 20 - 30 years from the pip.


I keep hearing that estimate but a pip my mother planted and kept in
the unheated greenhouse "only" took 14 years to flower and fruit.
Unfortunately she passed away before seeing the fruits.

Shame.

You could be lucky. My tree is around four years old though, and (as I
*WILL* keep telling people) I'm seventy next year...

--
Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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