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Le Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:09 +0200, Martin a écrit :

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:22:14 +0200, Neuneu
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Le Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:31:46 +0200, Martin a écrit :

So is AMPA harmful or what?


This one is in english...
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DMPGR.php


"This article was submitted to the USDA on behalf of ISIS" is meaningless
anybody can submit anything to them.


So you will need to read :
Benachour N and Séralini G-E.. Glyphosate formulations Induce Apoptosis
and Necrosis in Human Umbilical, Embryonic, and Placental Cells Chem. Res.
Toxicol.

It's a french study but I guess that with a simple research on Google with
"Benachour + Séralini" you will find a lot of results.
And That only one study out of hundreds.
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Le Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:08:35 +0200, Martin a écrit :

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:13:35 +0200, Neuneu
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Le Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:09 +0200, Martin a écrit :

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:22:14 +0200, Neuneu
wrote:

Le Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:31:46 +0200, Martin a écrit :

So is AMPA harmful or what?

This one is in english...
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/DMPGR.php

"This article was submitted to the USDA on behalf of ISIS" is meaningless
anybody can submit anything to them.


So you will need to read :
Benachour N and Séralini G-E.. Glyphosate formulations Induce Apoptosis
and Necrosis in Human Umbilical, Embryonic, and Placental Cells Chem. Res.
Toxicol.

It's a french study but I guess that with a simple research on Google with
"Benachour + Séralini" you will find a lot of results.
And That only one study out of hundreds.


You ignored the comment that detergent causes the same chemical and still
haven't answered the question about the concentration found in water samples in
French rivers.

If you feed a kilo of sugar to a rat it kills it, but that doesn't means sugar
is a poison.


I give up.
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Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.


Good.


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Neuneu wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.

Good.


Our chidren may die in peace

I thought you were giving up!

At least have the decency to stick to your word

Bob
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Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:31:22 +0100, Bob Minchin a écrit :

Neuneu wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.
Good.


Our chidren may die in peace

I thought you were giving up!

At least have the decency to stick to your word

Bob


I gave up trying to make Martin read the URL I quoted.
Not to help people to realize that chemical companies may also be present
on newsgroups...
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Le Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:25:19 +0100, prb a écrit :

Would it not be a good idea to quote the relevant details instead of
giving an url with reams of irelevant rubbish to wade through?


The last URL was written in english...
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Le Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:59:56 +0200, Martin a écrit :

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:25:19 +0100, prb wrote:

In article ,
says...
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:31:22 +0100, Bob Minchin a écrit :

Neuneu wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.
Good.

Our chidren may die in peace
I thought you were giving up!

At least have the decency to stick to your word

Bob

I gave up trying to make Martin read the URL I quoted.
Not to help people to realize that chemical companies may also be present
on newsgroups...

Would it not be a good idea to quote the relevant details instead of
giving an url with reams of irelevant rubbish to wade through?


I and others, including French speakers, have read all the URLs he quoted. None
contained the information we asked for.

What was the concentration measured in French rivers
and he ignored the comment in his own quoted URL that detergents cause the same
chemical that he attributes to the breakdown of Round Up.


Maybe URG should be renamed URGM ?
Looks like there is a lot of Glyphosate lovers here...
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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:31:22 +0100, Bob Minchin wrote:

Neuneu wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.
Good.
Our chidren may die in peace

I thought you were giving up!

At least have the decency to stick to your word


Does Round Up kill frogs?

LOL
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Martin wrote:
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:31:22 +0100, Bob Minchin
wrote:

Neuneu wrote:
Le Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:58:31 +0200, Martin a écrit :

I give up.
Good.

Our chidren may die in peace

I thought you were giving up!

At least have the decency to stick to your word


Does Round Up kill frogs?

No, but the cowboys get exhausted
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