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Watering cans from Tesco
Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco.
At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk |
Watering cans from Tesco
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Better not shop at Dobbies then! |
Watering cans from Tesco
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
Watering cans from Tesco
Richard Bird wrote:
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Depends what grade it is. Some S/S are poorly corrosion-resistant, whereas those used for culinary or marine purposes are very good. In general, the old adage "you get what you pay for" applies very well to S/S. -- Jeff |
Watering cans from Tesco
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:23:55 -0700 (PDT), tony wrote:
Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Do they have "stainless steel" and "tesco" marked on them anywhere? Sticky label with the barcode on the bottom maybe? As they are rusting they patently aren't stainless steel, point this out to the store duty manager and if you have no joy draw your local Trading Standards into the discussion under the Trades Description Act. A stainless steel watering can should out last your grandchildren... -- Cheers Dave. |
Watering cans from Tesco
Richard Bird wrote:
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Some "stainless" steels do rust and some are magnetic also. High grade SS doesn't rust, but you wouldn't normally use that for a watering can. It is difficult to work with. Fridge magnets will do for a quick test. A stainless that is non magnetic is probably fully corrosion resistant. A magnetic one may not be. If the watering can is one of the small window ledge ones they offered last year then I have one and it is still fine. The SS grade is borderline just magnetic - a fridge magnet doesn't quite fall off but slides to the bottom of the can. Regards, Martin Brown |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust A common misconception. If the surface is starved of oxygen, so that it cannot form a protective coating of oxides on its surface, stainless steel is no more corrosion resistant than mild steel. Colin Bignell |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... ..... As they are rusting they patently aren't stainless steel, ... Stainless steel is not rust-proof. It is merely rust resistant. Colin Bignell |
Watering cans from Tesco
tony wrote:
Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy You don't actually need a receipt but some proof of purchase helps. Have a look at the Sale Of Goods Act fact sheet[1]. I once successfully returned a faulty item to B&Q sans receipt, but I had to speak to a manager and threaten them with showing a printout of the SOGA. [1] http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/cons...laimmy rights -- Chris |
Watering cans from Tesco
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:22:40 +0100, nightjar wrote:
"Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust A common misconception. If the surface is starved of oxygen, so that it cannot form a protective coating of oxides on its surface, stainless steel is no more corrosion resistant than mild steel. Colin Bignell Ah but then if the surface is starved of oxygen the surface cannot rust since rust is actually Iron Oxide (Fe2O3 if you prefer). The process of rusting requires oxygen. The way stainless steel works is that the chromium content (alloyed) reacts with oxygen (rusts) and produces an impenetrable layer which prevents further rusting. |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:23:55 -0700 (PDT), tony wrote: Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Do they have "stainless steel" and "tesco" marked on them anywhere? Sticky label with the barcode on the bottom maybe? As they are rusting they patently aren't stainless steel, point this out to the store duty manager and if you have no joy draw your local Trading Standards into the discussion under the Trades Description Act. A stainless steel watering can should out last your grandchildren... -- Stainless steel is a name of a particular type of metal alloy, not a description. mark |
Watering cans from Tesco
On Sep 9, 7:56*am, "'Mike'" wrote:
"Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message .... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillarfountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. |
Watering cans from Tesco
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:31:47 +0100, "nightjar".me.uk wrote:
As they are rusting they patently aren't stainless steel, ... Stainless steel is not rust-proof. It is merely rust resistant. The test here is what a "reasonable person" would expect from something labled as "stainless steel", not the techinical details of particular metal alloys and their properties. To a "reasonable person" something called "stainles steel" does not corrode or take permenant marks, like cutlery or or cooking pans. Now if the grade of "stainless steel" is mentioned that would have a bearing on the matter but it could be argued that a normal person wouldn't know what the grade meant in terms of corrosion resistance. -- Cheers Dave. |
Watering cans from Tesco
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sandy58 wrote: On Sep 9, 7:56=A0am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ..= . Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because= as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Stee= l Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. In this thread, Mike Crowe knows a hundred times as much as the people who are abusing him, and is being a lot politer. He is entirely correct. Please troll elsewhere. Many grades of stainless steel are merely rust-resistant, even in good conditions, and there is no good reason to make gardening equipment out of surgical-grade stainless steel. But even the best stainless steels will corrode (and 'rust' is a fair term) under extremely hostile conditions, such as largely anaerobic seawater. It's a big problem in marine engineering. The seawater removes the oxide coating, and the residual oxygen then attacks the iron. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Watering cans from Tesco
sandy58 wrote:
On Sep 9, 7:56 am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillarfountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. Stainless steel can rust depending on the grade. It can also be fero magnetic, again depending on the grade. You're looking like a rude, obnoxious moron, never mind a ****, it's you who needs to be going back to school. |
Watering cans from Tesco
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Don't cut it up yet. Ask them under the freedom of information act to provide you with details of all purchases on your clubcard for the relevant period. Then go back to Tesco. Steve |
Watering cans from Tesco
wrote in message ... In article , sandy58 wrote: On Sep 9, 7:56=A0am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ..= . Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because= as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Stee= l Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. In this thread, Mike Crowe knows a hundred times as much as the people who are abusing him, and is being a lot politer. He is entirely correct. Please troll elsewhere. Many grades of stainless steel are merely rust-resistant, even in good conditions, and there is no good reason to make gardening equipment out of surgical-grade stainless steel. But even the best stainless steels will corrode (and 'rust' is a fair term) under extremely hostile conditions, such as largely anaerobic seawater. It's a big problem in marine engineering. The seawater removes the oxide coating, and the residual oxygen then attacks the iron. Metals corrode. If it doesn't corrode, it's gold, and then someone nicks it. Steve |
Watering cans from Tesco
On 9 Sep, 10:09, "shazzbat" wrote:
wrote in message ... In article , sandy58 wrote: On Sep 9, 7:56=A0am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ..= . Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because= as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Stee= l Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." *Go back to school, ****. In this thread, Mike Crowe knows a hundred times as much as the people who are abusing him, and is being a lot politer. *He is entirely correct. *Please troll elsewhere. Many grades of stainless steel are merely rust-resistant, even in good conditions, and there is no good reason to make gardening equipment out of surgical-grade stainless steel. But even the best stainless steels will corrode (and 'rust' is a fair term) under extremely hostile conditions, such as largely anaerobic seawater. *It's a big problem in marine engineering. The seawater removes the oxide coating, and the residual oxygen then attacks the iron. Metals corrode. If it doesn't corrode, it's gold, and then someone nicks it. Steve- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I allways thought that gold was a metal. Francis |
Watering cans from Tesco
"tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Why would anyone want to buy anything from tesco at all? |
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On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:54:28 +0100, "alan.holmes"
wrote: "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Why would anyone want to buy anything from tesco at all? Half-price wine, free delivery and double points does it for me sometimes, -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°¹ |
Watering cans from Tesco
"alan.holmes" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message Why would anyone want to buy anything from tesco at all? In my experience if you have a receipt they give an instant refund. In one case having got a refund I bought an identical replacement which was cheaper than the faulty one had been. If you can't be bothered arguing at the store a letter to their head office always seems to work wonders. I can't understand why my battered 60 year old galvenised watering can shows no signs of rust. John |
Watering cans from Tesco
I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Some of us did that a long time ago ;-) T*s*o is shop of last resort |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:26:11 +0100, "wafflycat" wrote: I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Some of us did that a long time ago ;-) T*s*o is shop of last resort Frinton is that resort. :) -- Martin No........ Blackpool -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Dead Paul" wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:22:40 +0100, nightjar wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust A common misconception. If the surface is starved of oxygen, so that it cannot form a protective coating of oxides on its surface, stainless steel is no more corrosion resistant than mild steel. Colin Bignell Ah but then if the surface is starved of oxygen the surface cannot rust since rust is actually Iron Oxide (Fe2O3 if you prefer). The process of rusting requires oxygen. The way stainless steel works is that the chromium content (alloyed) reacts with oxygen (rusts) and produces an impenetrable layer which prevents further rusting. Being starved of oxygen does not necessarily imply that it is completely excluded. It is possible for the amount of oxygen available to be sufficient for the iron to rust, but insufficient for the chromium dioxide to form. The most notorious incidence of this was about 30 years ago, when a number of yachts lost their ballast keels as a result of the stainless steel bolts rusting just as if they had been mild steel. Colin Bignell |
Watering cans from Tesco
"nightjar .me.uk" cpb@insert my surname here wrote in message ... "Dead Paul" wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 08:22:40 +0100, nightjar wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust A common misconception. If the surface is starved of oxygen, so that it cannot form a protective coating of oxides on its surface, stainless steel is no more corrosion resistant than mild steel. Colin Bignell Ah but then if the surface is starved of oxygen the surface cannot rust since rust is actually Iron Oxide (Fe2O3 if you prefer). The process of rusting requires oxygen. The way stainless steel works is that the chromium content (alloyed) reacts with oxygen (rusts) and produces an impenetrable layer which prevents further rusting. Being starved of oxygen does not necessarily imply that it is completely excluded. It is possible for the amount of oxygen available to be sufficient for the iron to rust, but insufficient for the chromium dioxide to form. The most notorious incidence of this was about 30 years ago, when a number of yachts lost their ballast keels as a result of the stainless steel bolts rusting just as if they had been mild steel. Colin Bignell Read a fascinating book once, "The Golden Keel". Desmond Bagley I believe :-)) -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 08:31:47 +0100, "nightjar".me.uk wrote: As they are rusting they patently aren't stainless steel, ... Stainless steel is not rust-proof. It is merely rust resistant. The test here is what a "reasonable person" would expect from something labled as "stainless steel", not the techinical details of particular metal alloys and their properties. To a "reasonable person" something called "stainles steel" does not corrode or take permenant marks, like cutlery or or cooking pans. Now if the grade of "stainless steel" is mentioned that would have a bearing on the matter but it could be argued that a normal person wouldn't know what the grade meant in terms of corrosion resistance. All stainless steel, irrespective of grade, is capable of rusting. Some are less likely than others to corrode in normal use, but even marine grade stainless steel is capable of rusting, as a number of yacht owners discovered about 30 years ago, when their ballast keels fell off. In this case, unless the OP did something like fill the can with soil and use it to grow plants, which would be a misuse almost guaranteed to cause corrosion, I would look at the country of origin. European, Japanese and American steels can generally be trusted to be what they claim to be, but the same is not true of all steel manufacturing countries. Colin Bignell |
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Charlie Pridham wrote: In article 3eeac27e-e745-4a7b-a17c- , says... On Sep 9, 7:56 am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillarfountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. Actually Mike is correct, it can rust, it just does so much less and more slowly and a lot depends on which grade of steel is used. Dead right. Having sailed yachts for 20+ years, S/S fittings and rails do rust in time. -- Pete C London UK |
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jks wrote: I can't understand why my battered 60 year old galvenised watering can shows no signs of rust. Hot zinc coated. None of this namby-pamby electroplated crap. It will rust, in time, but the time is proportional to the thickness of the coating. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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On Sep 9, 5:23*am, tony wrote:
Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bullwww.caterpillarfountain.co.uk I think many of you are missing the point. The arguments about the merits and properties ae largely superfluous I actually have a degree in metallurgy and spent around 30 years heat treating steels, some of them stainless steels The watering can was sold to me as stainless steel I would not expect it to start to rust after less than a year. It is not fit for purpose. It is rather unlikely that I would use it to apply anaerobic seawater to my plants!!!!!!! |
Watering cans from Tesco
"mark" wrote in message o.uk... .... Stainless steel is a name of a particular type of metal alloy, not a description. It was intended as being descriptive of the properties of cutlery made from it, when first used. I think an earlier name, weather resistant iron, was less misleading. Colin Bignell |
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On Sep 9, 5:33*pm, Martin wrote:
T*s*o is shop of last resort Frinton is that resort. :) My neighbours in Frinton will be in revolt over that remark, but then they are a pretty revolting lot. I cannot understand all these anti-Tesco remarks. It is a supermarket like any other - in fact more successful than the others, so plenty of people must like what they do. If you don't, then shop somewhere else. I find them convenient and cheap - but I do not buy their own brand goods just as I don't buy any other supermarkets own brand goods either. |
Watering cans from Tesco
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tony wrote: I think many of you are missing the point. The arguments about the merits and properties ae largely superfluous I actually have a degree in metallurgy and spent around 30 years heat treating steels, some of them stainless steels The watering can was sold to me as stainless steel I would not expect it to start to rust after less than a year. It is not fit for purpose. That depends entirely whether the rust is impairing the can cosmetically or structurally. I have had quite a lot of stainless steel gods that have suffered cosmetic rust and, in things like gardening equipment, there is no way that makes them unfit for purpose. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
Watering cans from Tesco
On 2009-09-09 18:59:44 +0100, "Pete C" said:
Charlie Pridham wrote: In article 3eeac27e-e745-4a7b-a17c- , says... On Sep 9, 7:56 am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillarfountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. Actually Mike is correct, it can rust, it just does so much less and more slowly and a lot depends on which grade of steel is used. Dead right. Having sailed yachts for 20+ years, S/S fittings and rails do rust in time. Can you get a sacrificial anode for a watering can? ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com Shrubs & perennials. Tender & exotics. South Devon |
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On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 18:27:44 +0100, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname
here.me.uk wrote: All stainless steel, irrespective of grade, is capable of rusting. Some are less likely than others to corrode in normal use, but even marine grade stainless steel is capable of rusting, as a number of yacht owners discovered about 30 years ago, when their ballast keels fell off. There are even different grades of "marine grade" stainless. When I built my yacht I did a bit of research. I used 316 stainless, which is OK for salt water exposure but not the best. It was however more easily available, being used in the food industry. I think 328 was a lot better, but I may be misremembering. I only needed it for the stanchions, nothing structural. It yellowed very slightly over the 5 years at sea, but still looked bright and uncorroded. The other thing that can occur is electrolytic corrosion when the stainless is in contact with a different metal. Don't bolt stainless fittings to an aluminium mast! -- Cynic |
Watering cans from Tesco
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:31:12 -0700 (PDT), tony
wrote: On Sep 9, 5:23*am, tony wrote: Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bullwww.caterpillarfountain.co.uk I think many of you are missing the point. The arguments about the merits and properties ae largely superfluous I actually have a degree in metallurgy and spent around 30 years heat treating steels, some of them stainless steels The watering can was sold to me as stainless steel I would not expect it to start to rust after less than a year. It is not fit for purpose. It is rather unlikely that I would use it to apply anaerobic seawater to my plants!!!!!!! Did it rust around the welds? I have seen inappropriate welding rods being used on stainless. -- Cynic |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Sacha" wrote in message ... On 2009-09-09 18:59:44 +0100, "Pete C" said: Charlie Pridham wrote: In article 3eeac27e-e745-4a7b-a17c- , says... On Sep 9, 7:56 am, "'Mike'" wrote: "Richard Bird" wrote in message ... "tony" wrote in message ... Last summer I bought 2 stainless steel watering cans from Tesco. At the start of the season this year, they were showing signs of rust and leaking. Tesco have refused to refund the cost as I do not have the recipt I am reluctant to take the company to the small claims court because of the cost, but all gardeners should be aware of Tesco's attitude I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillarfountain.co.uk Are you sure that they are "stainless steel" and not galvanised because as far as i was aware s/s does not rust Stainless Steel can rust, it depends on the grade and make up of the Steel -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Associationwww.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight?www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk Ballocks! Where did you dig up that load of shite? "SS can rust." Go back to school, ****. Actually Mike is correct, it can rust, it just does so much less and more slowly and a lot depends on which grade of steel is used. Dead right. Having sailed yachts for 20+ years, S/S fittings and rails do rust in time. Can you get a sacrificial anode for a watering can? ;-) -- Sacha If the whole can is made of the same metal and you are not going to immerse it in salt water, sacrificial anodes will not be required as Electrolytic action will not take place. -- Mike The Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rneba.org.uk Luxury Self Catering on the Isle of Wight? www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Cynic" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 18:27:44 +0100, "nightjar" cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk wrote: All stainless steel, irrespective of grade, is capable of rusting. Some are less likely than others to corrode in normal use, but even marine grade stainless steel is capable of rusting, as a number of yacht owners discovered about 30 years ago, when their ballast keels fell off. There are even different grades of "marine grade" stainless. When I built my yacht I did a bit of research. I used 316 stainless, which is OK for salt water exposure but not the best. It was however more easily available, being used in the food industry. I think 328 was a lot better, but I may be misremembering. I only needed it for the stanchions, nothing structural. It yellowed very slightly over the 5 years at sea, but still looked bright and uncorroded. 328 does not mean anything to me, but 316L, which is a low carbon version of 316, has better corrosion resistance. There is also implant quality 316, which has been twice refined under vacuum, which is even better. The other thing that can occur is electrolytic corrosion when the stainless is in contact with a different metal. Don't bolt stainless fittings to an aluminium mast! Before cadmium became a devil metal, cadmium plated steel screws were the thing to use in aluminium. Colin Bignell |
Watering cans from Tesco
"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:26:11 +0100, "wafflycat" wrote: I will probably cut up my Tesco club card and send it to Leahy Tony Bull www.caterpillar fountain.co.uk Some of us did that a long time ago ;-) T*s*o is shop of last resort Frinton is that resort. :) -- Harwich for the Continent. Frinton for the Incontinent. mark |
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